ct3 - Chieftain Training Day (for newbies only)

[stwils]

Hi everyone,

This morning my wonderful 17 inch Dell monitor began to flicker and then to fade. As I type now, it looks faded, gray, and like a stencil.

I can still get online and post.

Anyway, bless Dell. They will send me a replacement Monday or Tuesday. (Warranty runs out in Feb. so I am lucky it is happening now.)

But I can not play Civ3 on this kind of screen.

So for now, I have to say that I will not be able to take my turn unless it is after the replacement monitor arrives. And then there is Christmas. And I will be with family and will not be able to play.

This is very disconcerting. I can barely see the screen.

Wanted to post this before the whole monitor goes out.

stwils

 

[Archer 007]

Got It! After this turn, you may want to skip me until further notice, for I will be out of town for the holidays visiting family. I will proboly have my turns posted by toworrow night or Sunday afternoon.

 

[Archer 007]

Preturn-Checked cities. Moved out some of knights in cities that now have defense garrisons.
Turn 1-1420-Bapedi finishs University, starts Catherdal. Bactra finishs Library, starts University. Babylon finishs University, starts Cavalry. Antium finshes Temple, starts Granary. We capture Cumae w/ no losses. Gained three workers in the capture.
Turn 2-1425-Alexander tells us to leave his territory. We tell him to take a hike and he declares war. Knight killed near Cumae in Greek raid. Persepolis finishes Colosseum, starts Calvary. Tarsus finishes University, starts Catherdal. Neapolis finishs Worker, starts Library. Rome has a WLTKD.
Turn 3-1430-Sidon builds Aqueduct, starts Library. Battling a Hoplite near Antium, our Immortals spawn a Great Leader, Darius. Signed a military alliance w/ Egypt. Had to give them Engineerring in return.
Turn 4-1435- Nothing happened here.
Turn 5-1440- Discover Banking. Starts Ecomonics. Pasargadae builds Colsseum, starts Bank, Arbela finishs Cathedral, starts Bank. Capture Delphi, gain 2 workers, and start it building a Temple.
Turn 6-1445- Capture Knossos, it starts Temple. Antioch starts Bank.
Turn 7-1450- Zimbabwe, Persepolis, Susa, and Gordium start Banks. Tyre starts University. Capture Corinth, get 2 workers in capture, starts Temple.
Turn 8-1455- Sardis finishs Markletplace, starts Library. Captured Pharsalos.
Turn 9-1460- Darius arrives on the mainland.
Turn 10-1465- Ecomnomics discovered, start Theory of Gravity. Ulundi starts Smith's Trading Company, will be finished in 9 turns. Capture Sparta, get 3 workers, starts Temple.

And the save:
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/ct3_1465.sav

 

[mcdan]

Just downloaded your save - look at all that blue in the histograph! Woo Hoo! World Ranking now up to 320 while Greece lingers at 98! Still can't figure out why our approval rating is still in 2nd place hovering around 50% - guess it comes with the territory when you take over so many cities and have to manage so many size 12 cities that just keep wanting to grow even though there are limitations. Thanks for the quick turn around on your 10 turns. Science slider I see you kept at 20% and we have 6 times the amount of gold that the last turn. Yea- haw! Over 600+ g ! What if we move it to 10% for the next 10 turns (114 pt) and get even more ??? since we are so advanced. Then we could rush temples etc. Is that a good idea?

I see lots of Roman workers that we now have to manage - stwils brace yourself!

Looks like we are so close to the end - Padma - I think you are right - my previous turns may have been my last!

 

[Padma]

Haven't had a chance to actually look at the save, yet; I had a little trouble downloading it. the correct file is http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads3/ct3_1465.SAV

(Remember, the uploads folder is case sensitive. )

I did run MapStat against the save. We are only 24 tiles from domination! [dance]

 

[Chieftess]

Good luck guys! You're almost there!
Just checking in to see how this is going.

 

[Padma]

With a little luck, we are heading into the last turn of the game! With just 24 tiles to go, I would sign a peace deal with Alex (to get people happier), set Science rate to ZERO, and rush Temples on the Horse Island, and in any conquered cities that don't have them. Set the folks in rioting Greek/Roman cities to entertainers - keep 'em happy while we build culture.

We just need a few cities to expand their culture borders, and we've got it nailed!

stwils, if your computer is up to it, you are up now!

If not, let us know, and BoB can have the pleasure of finishing this game!

Don't sweat fancy stuff with workers, etc. Just get those temples built so we can grow!

 

[Archer 007]

Yay, a turn away from victory.

 

[Chieftess]

Just to add a note, you can still win by taking out the remaining Greek cities. 3 9 tile cities = 27 tiles, over the domination limit. Just send more cavalry over with the cannons, and it should be a cake-walk. The AI capital is usually the most defended. Not to mention there's a gap in the mainland (the SE). There's more than one way to win this one. Have fun!

Forget the settler - I think it was one that could be rushed.. then settled.

 

[Hygro]

Ooohh almost done. Good job!

 

[Padma]

You're right, Chieftess. There's more than one way to win this one. We just need to gain those 24 tiles.

 

[stwils]

Got it!

stwils

 

[stwils]

First of all, if we should win during my turns, it will really be an exciting event for me. I know you may not believe this (well, maybe you will ) but I have never won a game before.

And secondly, my computer is giving me fits. Dell thought it was my monitor, and replaced it at no charge with this HUGE monitor which I hate. And it makes the problem worse. They have decided it is my video card, and Dell will help me tackle that. But first I wanted to play my turns.

Just so you'll get an idea of what I am looking at, my screen is very light, and everything I see looks like I am seeing it through Venetian blinds. Also, all of the text is steaked and looks like a stencil.

So with that, here are my questions: (this is a training game.)

1. I'm setting the Science slider to 0, as Padma suggested, and I am planning to make peace with Greece.

2. Padma has hinted that a lot of cities will be rioting and smoking. Would upping the luxury slider help as much as sending in the clowns? Do taxmen help with disorder?

3. When I rush temples and libraries, should I worry about the cost? If I rush it and the advisor scowls because it is costing 300 gold, do I just go on and do it anyway? And what will the results be?

4. We've got so much military on our ships, what would you think of our invading that little Egyptian town on the west coast? And also the one beyond Greek towns to the North east ? It would give us more tiles.

5. And while I am rush building temples, etc and dealing with riots, what should I do with all the military on the ground that are standing around - if we don't use them to invade. Just fortify them?

6. If we should win before my 10 turns are up, shall I play on to the 10th?

7. And shall I save each turn so we will get a before and after save as well as the winning turn?

I'll listen out for your ideas. And rest my eyes from peering through these Venetian blinds.

stwils

 

[Padma]

Originally posted by stwils
First of all, if we should win during my turns, it will really be an exciting event for me. I know you may not believe this (well, maybe you will ) but I have never won a game before.

And secondly, my computer is giving me fits. Dell thought it was my monitor, and replaced it at no charge with this HUGE monitor which I hate. And it makes the problem worse. They have decided it is my video card, and Dell will help me tackle that. But first I wanted to play my turns.

Just so you'll get an idea of what I am looking at, my screen is very light, and everything I see looks like I am seeing it through Venetian blinds. Also, all of the text is steaked and looks like a stencil.

So with that, here are my questions: (this is a training game.)

1. I'm setting the Science slider to 0, as Padma suggested, and I am planning to make peace with Greece.

Setting the Science slider to zero is because we won't need any more research within this 10 turns - it won't help any, and we can use the gold. Peace with Greece is one option. The other is to press the war.

2. Padma has hinted that a lot of cities will be rioting and smoking. Would upping the luxury slider help as much as sending in the clowns? Do taxmen help with disorder?

Generally, raising the Lux Tax is preferred in your core, high-producing cities. If you raise it enough to help your core cities, but the outlying corrupt cities (i.e., Rome & Greece) aren't happy enough, yet, go ahead and apply specialists. Entertainers make others happy; Scientists and Tax Men count as Content - not Unhappy, so they help with disorder as well.

3. When I rush temples and libraries, should I worry about the cost? If I rush it and the advisor scowls because it is costing 300 gold, do I just go on and do it anyway? And what will the results be?

Don't worry too much about the cost. You can only rush those for which you have money, anyway. But setting Science to zero will increase our gpt, so rush the ones on the Horse Island first, then, rush what you can with any gold leftover. Continue rushing as you gain gold each turn.

4. We've got so much military on our ships, what would you think of our invading that little Egyptian town on the west coast? And also the one beyond Greek towns to the North east ? It would give us more tiles.

If you declare peace with Greece, don't bother to attack Egypt. Unless you see an easy non-auto-razing town to grab.

5. And while I am rush building temples, etc and dealing with riots, what should I do with all the military on the ground that are standing around - if we don't use them to invade. Just fortify them?

If we're at peace, just pull them out of Greece and fortify them. I am guessing 3 - 5 turns before we win, so no need to "use" them for anything.

6. If we should win before my 10 turns are up, shall I play on to the 10th?

No, just play until you get the win announcement.

7. And shall I save each turn so we will get a before and after save as well as the winning turn?

Sure! And be sure to post the save taken right before the win. That way everyone can play the last turn, and record the win in their own HoF.

Good luck with your "Venetian Blinds"!

 

[stwils]

Preturn - Persia 1465ad


Preturn
Set Science slider to 0
Made peace with Greece (RoP) not alliance
Set Ghulaman to rush Temple in 1 turn
Set Hamadan to rush Temple in 1 turn
Set Pricesylvania from granary to rush Library
Put 2 clowns in Rome (want to rush temple)
Set Neopolis to rush library
Delphi gets a clown
Sparta gets clown (want to rush temple soon)
Pharsalos - gets clown and is set to Temple
Clown to Corinth
Want to rush Temple in Pompeii - we lack the gold but it will come
Change Antium form Granary to rush Library
Set Cumae from Pikeman to Temple (will rush when the gold comes in)
Changed citizin in Bactra so there is growth
Bapedi gets a clown; moved citizens to get more food

Enter*
Alex appears and is mad. Even though we have a RoP he wants our troops out. I agree (Not sure why he is mad...)
Babylon gets Cavalry; set to Bank
Veil gets Library(we rushed it in preturn); set to University
Antium has Library; set to university
Lots of cheers and "we love you" stuff
Sidon gets Library; set to University now
Hamadan gets Temple; set to Library
Pricesylvania gets Library; set to University
Ghulaman gets Temple; set to Library

 

[stwils]

Turn#1 1470ad
moved canons and fortified them
fortified catapult
moved northen galleon nearer other 3
fortified all militia in Sparta
moved 3 galleons nearer Elephantine
Rush Temple in Rome

Enter*
Rome gets Temple;set to Library

Turn#2 1475ad
workers do their thing
galleon moves around to join other 3 later
(I can't help it. I want to take that Egyptian Elepahantine.
workers go to and fro
3 loaded galleons move off the coast of Elephantine
Pop rushing Library now at Hamadan

Enter*
Cheers go up. (Nice to hear)
Set ? to Smith's Trading Company just for fun
Set Hamadan to University because it just got Library

Turn#3 1480ad
Rush Temple in Pompeii
Move lone galleon near the other 3
Unload the militia from the 3 galleons on Elephantine

Enter*
Cleo is mad.

Turn#4 1485ad
Workers, etc
4th galleon arrives near the other 3
Cavalry attacks Elephantine. Kills one and is elite
We capture Elephantine. There are two resistors
We send all our cavalry and fortify. They still resists. What the f***
We rush Library in Rome

Enter*
Rome gets Library; set to Univ. Her borders expand
Zimbabwe gets Bank; set to Musketman
Pasargadae has Bank

We WIN!!!!!! Wheeeeeeee.
Happy Happy Joy Joy
It all happened so fast
Glad I saved the 1485ad

I also clicked on continue for 1490ac but did not play. Just wanted to get the save.

OK. Team.

Here is the 1485ad save

 

[stwils]

Augghhh

save did not work. Will try again.

 

[stwils]

Here also is the 1490ad save which I did not play. I tried to save the 1485ad at the moment of winning but couldn't. So here is just a moment after we won.

 

[stwils]

We won after all these months!

[dance] [dance]

(This was also a big moment for me as I have never before won a game.)

Thanks to all you!

stwils

 

[stwils]

And I hereby declare that tomorrow will be:

WE LOVED PADMA DAY. [dance] [dance]

Because he picked us up out of the gutter where we were languishing and took us on.

To Padma:

stwils