See the links in my post a few posts up. Eusebius' mod does exactly this (among other).
Good mod that
See the links in my post a few posts up. Eusebius' mod does exactly this (among other).
Honestly, I think Sikhism should've been included over Judiasm, not because of how brave Sikhs are, but mostly because of the fact that it's a much larger religion than Judiasm.
I think most Christians and Muslims would be offended by the idea that either religion came into being because of Judaism or that either religion was an offshoot of Judaism. Most likely they would say that, if Judaism had never occurred, Jesus or Mohammed would have been born and lived their life much the same as it really happened, and that they would have had their divine inspiration/influences just the same.
Anyway.... that's religion for ya.
Personally I feel it's pretty clear that Christianity and Islam both borrowed pretty heavily from other religions.
Wodan
I think most Christians and Muslims would be offended by the idea that either religion came into being because of Judaism or that either religion was an offshoot of Judaism. Most likely they would say that, if Judaism had never occurred, Jesus or Mohammed would have been born and lived their life much the same as it really happened, and that they would have had their divine inspiration/influences just the same.
Anyway.... that's religion for ya.
Personally I feel it's pretty clear that Christianity and Islam both borrowed pretty heavily from other religions.
Wodan
What I said has nothing to do with Semites. All I meant was that, to a true believer of ANY religion (except for paganism), not just Christianity or Islam, their faith would dictate that their religion is the one true religion, and that it would have come about regardless of what had come before. That's pretty much the definition of "faith".
And, I clearly said that *I* didn't believe that.
Wodan
Influence does not imply a cause & effect relationship. I think that's what we're dancing around here.A Christian or Muslim might say that but a religious historian would see clear influence on them from Judaism. Arguably Zorasterism should have been included as it is probable that it was the first monotheistic faith and that it was Zorastian influence that changed Judaism from worship of a tribal God to true monotheism.
This is an iDEA for Civ4 SE asia maps
Religions
Lamaism holy City (HC) Lhasa, Tibet
Thervada Buddhism HC Krung Thep, Thailand
Shinto HC Osaka, Japan
Zen Buddhism HC NONE
Hinduism HC Benares, India
Confucianism HC ???
Taoism HC Donjing, (China)
That's pretty much the definition of "faith".
Wodan
Number of religions should vary with the number of civs in the game IMO. There should be about 10 techs than found a religion, but depending on the number of civs playing only the first x should actualy found a religion, the others would just do nothing that game.
It struck me as odd that whilst Civ4 has a number of religions, it omits the Sikhs, when Sikhism is the 5th largest organised religion in the world. Why is that?
It's especially odd given that Sikhs are an extremely martial race, with the elite Nihang mirroring many aspects of the ancient Spartans. Surely ideal for a game like this?
There are numerous special units they could have too such as the Akalis (immortals), who were unbelievably ferocious warriors. They later developed into the Nihang warriors, who can be seen wandering fully armed around Punjab even today (N W India).
On a weapons basis they ALL carry swords, but many carry Chakras and spears. All Akali were mounted, and many (most?) Nihang are.
Today they practice the Sikh martial art of Gatka, which is a somewhat watered down version of the original military training of the Nihang from 200 years ago.
The Sikhs were also the only Indians to beat British forces regularly on the battlefield (better sharper weapons, better armour, and more ferocious). Small numbers of them often defeated much larger Mughal, Persian and Afghan armies.
Surely a no brainer for the next add on?
They also have a couple of obvious leaders for use in the game: the warrior Emperor, Maharaja Ranjit Singh, and also General Akali Phula Singh who is a very well known and respected leader of the Nihang from about 200 years ago. Even the Emperor bowed to the general's authority.
Hey Jas!
If you want it so badly, then why don't you go and create another Civilisation expansion or modpack with the Sikh religion in it?
I think most Christians and Muslims would be offended by the idea that either religion came into being because of Judaism or that either religion was an offshoot of Judaism. Most likely they would say that, if Judaism had never occurred, Jesus or Mohammed would have been born and lived their life much the same as it really happened, and that they would have had their divine inspiration/influences just the same.
Anyway.... that's religion for ya.
Personally I feel it's pretty clear that Christianity and Islam both borrowed pretty heavily from other religions.
Wodan