Current Civ and Leader Abilities Elimination Thread.

[Guandao]

America 7
Arabia 22
Australia 22
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 2
Macedon (17+1)=18 The abilities here are geared towards war, but it makes sense, since the Civ is basically the Alexander Civ. The boosts from conquering Cities stays useful throughout the game, while barbarian encampments will usually vanish as most of the land is grabbed by civs.
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 19
Sumeria (21-3)=18 The abilities make Sumeria seem like a warlike Civ, and it's too geared towards the Epic of Gilgamesh. What's the point of sharing your pillage rewards and combat exp with another civ's units?

 

[Manifold]

America 8 (7+1) UA is good!
Arabia 22
Australia 19 (22-3) ok, reason exceptionally: UU comes too late
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 2
Macedon 18
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 19
Sumeria 18

 

[God of Kings]

America 8
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 4
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Kongo 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED This civ is denied a victory condition simply due to unique mechanics
Macedon 18 + 1 = 19 Extremely powerful when permanently at war
Rome 10
Russia 22
Scythia 19
Sumeria 18

 

[LethalLeigh]

America 8
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 5 (4+1) Good for coastal Cities even better with new Harbor adjacency.
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 7 (10-3) Nice for new players but their abilities are little boring.
Russia 22
Scythia 19
Sumeria 18

Moderator Action: Fixed Macedon's score -- Jon

 

[Abraxis]

Macedon 178

 

[Morgawr]

America 8-3 = 5 Bonuses come too late to be of any real use
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 5
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 7
Russia 22+1 = 23 Extra land + cheap lavra + extra science & culture = top tier civ
Scythia 19
Sumeria 18

 

[Forster]

America 5 - 3 = 2 I agree, bonuses come too late to be of any real use.
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 5
Germany 25
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 7
Russia 23
Scythia 19
Sumeria 18 + 1 = 19 What is not to like?

 

[Kimiimaro]

America 2
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 5
Germany 25+1=26 - Throwing an upvote to my favourite.
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 7-3=4 - 24 hours later, Rome is still weak civ in my eyes. I'd really like to eliminate America, but Rome is worse.
Russia 23
Scythia 19
Sumeria 19

 

[Amrunril]

America 2
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 5
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 13
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 5 (4 + 1) Capable of setting up an empire faster than anyone else in the early game and growing it taller than most in the mid game, Rome will find itself well positioned to win any victory.
Russia 23
Scythia 19
Sumeria 16 (19 - 3) Weaker than Scythia as an early rush civ, and it other abilities are mediocre at best.

 

[jacksone kain]

America 2
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 5+1 = 6 - Because they still get 2 trade routes with royal dockyard & comm districts
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 13-3 = 10 - Suzerain status is just too variable
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 5
Russia 23
Scythia 19
Sumeria 16

 

[Eliminator_Sr]

America 2 - 3 = 0 ELIMINATED - Just a weak civ for anything except late cultural victories and pangea domination. They should be much stronger.
Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 6
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 10
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 5 + 1 = 6 (Have to keep upvoting because they are so much better than this)
Russia 23
Scythia 19
Sumeria 16

 

[Felis Renidens]

Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 6
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 10
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 7 = 6 + 1 I wanted to keep America in the game to draw away some hate, well, I'll do my best to keep them around
Russia 23
Scythia 16 = 19-3 - healing is nice, I don't care much for light cavalry. UI really poor.
Sumeria 16

 

[Guandao]

Arabia 22
Australia 19
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 6
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 10
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome (7+1)=8 It should at least survive England. I like the free Monument in my founded cities, so I can focus on building other stuff, and roads to capital without sending trade caravans is nice.
Russia (23-3)=20 While more land is nice, I don't really benefit from Peter's ability due to either keeping up or surpassing the AI in Culture and science
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[Manifold]

Arabia 22
Australia 16 (19-3) boring
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 7 (6+1) what? Red coat is super snowballing!
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 10
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 8
Russia 20
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[Morgawr]

Arabia 22
Australia 16
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16
England 7
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 7 (10-3) Suze bonus is too small - how many CSs can you be suze of at one time anyway. I very much prefer Gorgo's bonus which is a big advantage early game. I'm surprised that one isn't ranked higher
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 9 (8+1) Coming to the rescue here. Instant roads & monuments are a huge advantage early game, which is what matters most. No-iron legions seal the deal.
Russia 20
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[Pietato]

Rome is easily top 5 for Deity, yet people are downvoting them over Egypt??

Arabia 22
Australia 16
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt 16 - 3 = 13
England 7
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 7
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 9 + 1 = 10.
Russia 20
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[Forster]

Arabia 22 - 3 = 19 Good but not great.
Australia 16
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt = 13
England 7
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 7
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome = 10 + 1 = 11 Most perfect fit.
Russia 20
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[LethalLeigh]

Arabia 22
Australia 16
Aztec 22
China 16
Egypt = 13
England 8 (7+1) I like how their Artifacts auto theme.
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 7
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome = 7 (10-3) Their Abilities are boring.
Russia 20
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[Hammurabbit]

Arabia 22
Australia 16
Aztec 23 (22 + 1) - Generally fun bonuses when you like war and settling for new luxury
China 16
Egypt = 13
England 5 (8 - 3) - A mixed bag of abilities pointing in all kind of directions that comes quite late
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 7
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome = 7
Russia 20
Scythia 16
Sumeria 16

 

[Siptah]

Arabia 22
Australia 16
Aztec 23
China 16
Egypt 13
England 5
Germany 26
Greece - Athens 7
Greece - Sparta 7
Macedon 19
Rome 4 (7-3) I think lots of people are blinded by the Glory of Rome and don't see the weaknesses and shortcomings of this civ. They just like to pretend being a Roman Emperor and play with this civ. It's really the most boring to play for me, even America is more interesting with the NP and Flim studios.
Russia 20
Scythia 17 (16+1) In contrast to that, this one is fun.
Sumeria 16