I have started a huge lakes marathon map on noble with Cyrus. Now, I haven't played as Cyrus since Warlords come out, so I thought I would give it a go anyway. Friggin' heck! He's a bit bloody over the top isn't he? It's 1420 BC (BS more like it). I have ALREADY eliminated 5 civs: Hannibal, Shaka, Isabella, Roosevelt and Brennus. ALL I have really built is the Immortal. WHY the heck bother with anything else? They have: * a +100% attack against Axemen. * a +50% attack against Archers. * a +10% withdrawl factor (with Char trait, not hard to get Flanking I & II). * the ability to get terrain bonuses when defending. * the ability to fortify. * can move 2 spaces per turn. * are as cheap as an Archer - and are cheaper than Axemen. * they have Charismatic backing them (no need for Barracks). * and they get +100% great generals, which I might add comes quite regularly with the odds. (I already have 2 of them). WHAT A FRIGGIN' JOKE. I understand why he had a strong UU in vanilla considering the old traits (Creative/Expansive). But now, he really is the only one who has a very strong trait combination AND a very strong UU. What seals this leader as being WAAAYYY over the top for me - FAR more than the Praetorians and what not - is how quickly you can get them, how cheap they are and how fast they can move, not to mention how effective they are at defending and attacking everything in the early era. Just hook up Horses (easy with the settler bonus I might add) when you get Animal Husbandry and start pumping them out as fast as you can pump out Archers. Screw building anything else, they move faster than Praetorians and can effectively take down any Barbarian unit both on the offense and defense. Geesh. With the settler bonus, you can hook horses fast and produce an army way before the AI even gets close to building spearmen. I am really loosing the point of this game. It is one smack in the teeth after another with the f****d up choices that have been made. It pretty much kills the game in my opinion. Sorry, but I am just getting frustrated with this game.