AntiTwelve
King
A quick reminder, everyone upgrade to 1.15 NOW!
CZ1: Byzantine Supremacy...
- Thread starter AntiTwelve
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Sorry, i lost the turnlog and I dont want things to be discrepant with the save, so basically Heavy cavs due in 2 turns, almost all of our horses are in constaniople, and also be wary of the 2 arab units next to Bursa in the south-east......
AntiTwelve
King
ok just post the save and I'll take care of business
mitsho
Deity
skip me, I won't be here the next 4,5 days. 
Or you have to wait. At last we can start our assault....
mfG mitsho
Or you have to wait.
At last we can start our assault....mfG mitsho
Kuningas
Deity
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Pre turn - 1305AD -
Misc MM.
IT Abbasids declared war. They captured Brusa.
1 - 1038AD - Athens: barracks -horse
Abbasids gonna pay for it.
IT lost: 2 workers and spear to Abbasids. HC ->Early Siegecraft.
2 - 1041AD - Sinope: barracks ->Spear, Varna: Spear ->Cataphract
We kill redlined Ansar with vet spear.
We have cataphracts. Immediatly upgraded 11. 73 gold left in account.
IT lost: spear.
3 - 1044AD - Smyrna: Spear ->Catap
IT our god like spear. killed 2 horses and 2 archers alone and promoted to elite.
4 - 1047AD - Constantinopole: Catap ->Catap. Chalcedon: Temple ->settler.
Lost: 2 vet horses vs 2/4 horse on forest.
IT: Abbasids burned Ohrid down.
5 - 1050AD - Ancyra: Settler ->Settler
Bursa is ours. lost 1 horse and killed 2 spears, archer and 2 horses.
6 - 1553AD - Naissus: Temple ->spear. Septum: Settler ->Settler.
Why they won't face the power of Cataphracts and surrender. No casualties, killed 5 archers, horse and spear.
7 - 1556AD - Nicomedia: Settler ->worker.
Taormina founded ->barracks.
Orid founded ->settler.
Killed bunch of archers.
IT Abbasids captured
8 - 1559AD - Heraclea: Worker ->worker. Sardica: Settler ->Granary. Ani: Worker ->worker.
Abbasids captured Amorium (island city)
IT Abbasids offers peace. I refuse.
9 - 1662AD - Caesarea: Settler ->Catap. Constantinople: Catap ->Catap. Trebizond: Barracks ->Catap. Iconium: Worker ->Worker.
We capture Sidon. killed 2 spears. We lost 2 catap in combats due very bad RNG. Abbasids must have spies
10 - 1665 - Varna: Catap ->Catap.
One lucky Abbasids spear is getting one town.
New Constantinople: Spear
Abbasids sneak attack were nearly perfectly timed. All our offensive units were in north. As I understand this scenario we have to destroy enemy's king units and their empire will collapse?
There is palace prebuild. I think we should try the wonder with free barracks. Can't get wonder's name to my head.
I tried to build cities with higher density. So units upkeep cost will be reduced.
The Save
Misc MM.
IT Abbasids declared war. They captured Brusa.
1 - 1038AD - Athens: barracks -horse
Abbasids gonna pay for it.
IT lost: 2 workers and spear to Abbasids. HC ->Early Siegecraft.
2 - 1041AD - Sinope: barracks ->Spear, Varna: Spear ->Cataphract
We kill redlined Ansar with vet spear.
We have cataphracts. Immediatly upgraded 11. 73 gold left in account.
IT lost: spear.
3 - 1044AD - Smyrna: Spear ->Catap
IT our god like spear. killed 2 horses and 2 archers alone and promoted to elite.
4 - 1047AD - Constantinopole: Catap ->Catap. Chalcedon: Temple ->settler.
Lost: 2 vet horses vs 2/4 horse on forest.
IT: Abbasids burned Ohrid down.
5 - 1050AD - Ancyra: Settler ->Settler
Bursa is ours. lost 1 horse and killed 2 spears, archer and 2 horses.
6 - 1553AD - Naissus: Temple ->spear. Septum: Settler ->Settler.
Why they won't face the power of Cataphracts and surrender. No casualties, killed 5 archers, horse and spear.
7 - 1556AD - Nicomedia: Settler ->worker.
Taormina founded ->barracks.
Orid founded ->settler.
Killed bunch of archers.
IT Abbasids captured
8 - 1559AD - Heraclea: Worker ->worker. Sardica: Settler ->Granary. Ani: Worker ->worker.
Abbasids captured Amorium (island city)
IT Abbasids offers peace. I refuse.
9 - 1662AD - Caesarea: Settler ->Catap. Constantinople: Catap ->Catap. Trebizond: Barracks ->Catap. Iconium: Worker ->Worker.
We capture Sidon. killed 2 spears. We lost 2 catap in combats due very bad RNG. Abbasids must have spies
10 - 1665 - Varna: Catap ->Catap.
One lucky Abbasids spear is getting one town.
New Constantinople: Spear
Abbasids sneak attack were nearly perfectly timed. All our offensive units were in north. As I understand this scenario we have to destroy enemy's king units and their empire will collapse?
There is palace prebuild. I think we should try the wonder with free barracks. Can't get wonder's name to my head.
I tried to build cities with higher density. So units upkeep cost will be reduced.
The Save
mitsho
Deity
yes, we have to kill their 3 kings and all their cities will be abandoned.
hmm, we need a navy, don't we? We have to protect our cities. Shall we attack the abbasids now? why not?
mfG mitsho
hmm, we need a navy, don't we? We have to protect our cities. Shall we attack the abbasids now? why not?
mfG mitsho
mitsho
Deity
no spread over some cities (not all countries have three, some little have only 2, for example Celtia) I don't know where their kings are. Shall we look (by starting a game as the Abbassids?
mfg mitsho
mfg mitsho
AntiTwelve
King
oy, i thought it was my turn after andvruss according to the roster, o well, Kuningas did a very nice job.
I take it that the Abbasids declared war on us? O well, no problems with that, cuz later on they have stealth warriors that are VERY HARD to defeat (I crushed them with some knights and inquistioners as germans
) plus their kings will be in Jerusalem and the 2 closest cities to it. Once Abbasids fall, Bulgaria and Magyars will provide good land for forbidden palace.
Just to remind you guys too, once all 3 kings are gone, all the cities we DID NOT capture will be destroyed in a chain reaction. So make sure to capture Jerusalem soon if I don't.
I take it that the Abbasids declared war on us? O well, no problems with that, cuz later on they have stealth warriors that are VERY HARD to defeat (I crushed them with some knights and inquistioners as germans
) plus their kings will be in Jerusalem and the 2 closest cities to it. Once Abbasids fall, Bulgaria and Magyars will provide good land for forbidden palace.Just to remind you guys too, once all 3 kings are gone, all the cities we DID NOT capture will be destroyed in a chain reaction. So make sure to capture Jerusalem soon if I don't.
AntiTwelve
King
ya i know, but it's the BEST city they have which means more production in the east vs. craptastic cities in the desert
AntiTwelve
King
I wasn't very confident about how we would do when I started my turns, but eventually something happened that would completely turn the game around... and in OUR favor, of course!
*pre-turn*
changed Brusa to brax
Sardica to worker
Caesarea to worker
Trebizond to worker
ibt-- 4/4 horse, 4/4 archer, 4/4 horse attack 2 catas and we defeat them all. But then a 'spy' comes out of nowhere and kills one of our weak catas
turn 1, 1068 ad...
*Larissa cata-cata
5/5 cata kills spy, ?/1
talk to all the civs and find out half the civs are stronger than us AND all many of code of laws
ibt- more horses and archers make a weak attempt at taking Sidon back... I also spot a Fatamid ship approaching near an unguarded city, so I take care of that by sending a troop to protect the island (accidentally put a king unit in there
)
learn siege craft, go for medieval combat
turn 2, 1071 ad...
*Sinope spear--temple
4/4 cata attacks 4/4 archer, 4/1
New Adrianople founded --worker
switched Attalean settler to catapult
ibt-- 3/3 archer attacks, 3/2 / 3/3 archer attacks, 3/1
turn 3, 1074 ad...
*Attalea catapult--catapult
3/3 dromon v 3/3 curragh, 3/0
GOLDEN AGE
[dance] [dance]
Shields and gold up the wazoo! But make sure to use them wisely!
ibt-- more horses appear for an assault on Sidon
turn 4, 1077 ad...
(the big production turn)
*Caesarea worker--temple
*Ancyra cata--cata
*Const cata--cata
*Nicaea cata--cata
*Smyrna cata--cata
*Trebizond worker--worker
*Prilep spear--temple
Upgrade a horse to cata
demond Bulgars and Magyars to leave our lands, and they do so
ibt-- 3/3 horse, 3/1 - 3/3 archer, 3/0 to an elite and...
WOOT
also a spy dies and a 3/3 horse dies
turn 5, 1080 ad...
*Ephesus cata--cata
*Dyrachhium spear--worker
*Edessa brax--spear
moving workers like crazy, Abbasids army is now considered average to ours by our advisor! It seems their lines are breaking.
9bt-- Good news, according to the advisor there are no longer ANY nations that threaten us directly, and it only gets better
another spy dies, but another one kills a 2/4 cata
turn 6, 1083 ad...
*Corinth cata--cata
*Varna cata--cata
*Heraclea worker--worker
*Samosata spear--worker
3 4/4 catas destroy 2 archers and a spy
now sending army towards Antioch>>>
attacks go like this:
1 4/4 cata deals no damage to a 3/3 spear and dies
5/5 cata v. 3/3 spear, 3/3
4/4 cata v. 3/3 archer, 3/2 and promotes
5/5 cata v. 3/3 spera, 3/2
and bada-bing, the beginning of the end...
*pre-turn*
changed Brusa to brax
Sardica to worker
Caesarea to worker
Trebizond to worker
ibt-- 4/4 horse, 4/4 archer, 4/4 horse attack 2 catas and we defeat them all. But then a 'spy' comes out of nowhere and kills one of our weak catas
turn 1, 1068 ad...
*Larissa cata-cata
5/5 cata kills spy, ?/1
talk to all the civs and find out half the civs are stronger than us AND all many of code of laws
ibt- more horses and archers make a weak attempt at taking Sidon back... I also spot a Fatamid ship approaching near an unguarded city, so I take care of that by sending a troop to protect the island (accidentally put a king unit in there
)learn siege craft, go for medieval combat
turn 2, 1071 ad...
*Sinope spear--temple
4/4 cata attacks 4/4 archer, 4/1
New Adrianople founded --worker
switched Attalean settler to catapult
ibt-- 3/3 archer attacks, 3/2 / 3/3 archer attacks, 3/1
turn 3, 1074 ad...
*Attalea catapult--catapult
3/3 dromon v 3/3 curragh, 3/0
GOLDEN AGE
[dance] [dance]
Shields and gold up the wazoo! But make sure to use them wisely!
ibt-- more horses appear for an assault on Sidon
turn 4, 1077 ad...
(the big production turn)
*Caesarea worker--temple
*Ancyra cata--cata
*Const cata--cata
*Nicaea cata--cata
*Smyrna cata--cata
*Trebizond worker--worker
*Prilep spear--temple
Upgrade a horse to cata
demond Bulgars and Magyars to leave our lands, and they do so
ibt-- 3/3 horse, 3/1 - 3/3 archer, 3/0 to an elite and...
WOOT
also a spy dies and a 3/3 horse dies
turn 5, 1080 ad...
*Ephesus cata--cata
*Dyrachhium spear--worker
*Edessa brax--spear
moving workers like crazy, Abbasids army is now considered average to ours by our advisor! It seems their lines are breaking.
9bt-- Good news, according to the advisor there are no longer ANY nations that threaten us directly, and it only gets better
another spy dies, but another one kills a 2/4 cata
turn 6, 1083 ad...
*Corinth cata--cata
*Varna cata--cata
*Heraclea worker--worker
*Samosata spear--worker
3 4/4 catas destroy 2 archers and a spy
now sending army towards Antioch>>>
attacks go like this:
1 4/4 cata deals no damage to a 3/3 spear and dies
5/5 cata v. 3/3 spear, 3/3
4/4 cata v. 3/3 archer, 3/2 and promotes
5/5 cata v. 3/3 spera, 3/2
and bada-bing, the beginning of the end...
AntiTwelve
King
ibt-- 1st spy dies against cata in Sidon, so does the 2nd, but a 3rd deals good damage but cata retreats *whew
GERMANY DECLARES WAR???!!!!?!?!??!
a 3/3 sword attacks one of our far off cities near hannover and...
3/3 sword v. our city's 3/3 spear, we WIN 3/1! and that lil guy promotes!
learn Medieval Combat, begin the code of laws
turn 7, 1086 ad...
*Athens cata--cata
*Const cata--cata
*Nicomedia worker--worker
built cheap embassy in Burgundy, traded Military Alliance vs. Germans for their code of laws and gold for our dyes and silks (not a bad trade, since we DONT want to give them any techs.
begins learning map making at 0% so we can get enough money to upgrade a horse EVERY turn (until they all upgrade)
ibt--traded England her territory map and 20 gold for our world map
turn 8, 1089 ad...
*Sinope temple--town hall
*Sardica worker--worker
*Ani worker--worker
*Edessa spear--cata
built an army, sent it to fight in the Middle East>->->
I notice a MASSIVE Turk army of archers/spears/settlers heading south...wonder why
ibt... zzZZzz???
turn 9, 1092 ad...
*Ancyra cata--cata
*Larissa cata--cata
*Sidon worker--worker
*Trabizond worker--catapult
*Iconium worker--worker
*Taormina brax--spear
New Caesarea founded
ibt... spy dies, but makes up promote
turn 10, 1095 ad...
*Const cata--cata
*Smyrna cata--cata
sending 3 catas to attack Hannover, so use these men and finish the job plz
now.. ONLY the Germans and Kievaninites have an army that compares to us...haha the Balkans and Asia will soon be ours!
take a look at the maximized nation of the Byzantines at the turn of the century
and the army that will rule the world...
save
*post turn thoughts*
plz make sure ALL the horsemen are upgraded before going back to using our scinece money up... also make sure to keep some catas on the Turkish and Bulgarian borders just in case they try to undermine us while we are busy with the Abbasids.
IMPORTANT
before killing the 3rd abbasid king unit, capture as many cities as possible, since once that 3rd king goes, so does the city he dies in AND all the cities we didnt conquer.
GERMANY DECLARES WAR???!!!!?!?!??!
a 3/3 sword attacks one of our far off cities near hannover and...
3/3 sword v. our city's 3/3 spear, we WIN 3/1! and that lil guy promotes!
learn Medieval Combat, begin the code of laws
turn 7, 1086 ad...
*Athens cata--cata
*Const cata--cata
*Nicomedia worker--worker
built cheap embassy in Burgundy, traded Military Alliance vs. Germans for their code of laws and gold for our dyes and silks (not a bad trade, since we DONT want to give them any techs.
begins learning map making at 0% so we can get enough money to upgrade a horse EVERY turn (until they all upgrade)
ibt--traded England her territory map and 20 gold for our world map
turn 8, 1089 ad...
*Sinope temple--town hall
*Sardica worker--worker
*Ani worker--worker
*Edessa spear--cata
built an army, sent it to fight in the Middle East>->->
I notice a MASSIVE Turk army of archers/spears/settlers heading south...wonder why
ibt... zzZZzz???
turn 9, 1092 ad...
*Ancyra cata--cata
*Larissa cata--cata
*Sidon worker--worker
*Trabizond worker--catapult
*Iconium worker--worker
*Taormina brax--spear
New Caesarea founded
ibt... spy dies, but makes up promote
turn 10, 1095 ad...
*Const cata--cata
*Smyrna cata--cata
sending 3 catas to attack Hannover, so use these men and finish the job plz
now.. ONLY the Germans and Kievaninites have an army that compares to us...haha the Balkans and Asia will soon be ours!
take a look at the maximized nation of the Byzantines at the turn of the century
and the army that will rule the world...
save
*post turn thoughts*
plz make sure ALL the horsemen are upgraded before going back to using our scinece money up... also make sure to keep some catas on the Turkish and Bulgarian borders just in case they try to undermine us while we are busy with the Abbasids.
IMPORTANT
before killing the 3rd abbasid king unit, capture as many cities as possible, since once that 3rd king goes, so does the city he dies in AND all the cities we didnt conquer.
AntiTwelve
King
well since kuningas went before i did 
and mitsho is gone until sunday, andvruss it is now your turn!
and mitsho is gone until sunday, andvruss it is now your turn!
Cizzlewalk
AntiTwelve
King
Muhaha, once bulgars/ magyars fall we will have a PERFECT base of operation in those wonderful grasslands!
But a question, should we go for more wonders or should we build our economy for units to take over Europe?
But a question, should we go for more wonders or should we build our economy for units to take over Europe?
AntiTwelve
King
another note, soon ONE civ will build holy roman empire and will gain 2 techs on specific european tree or regular tree of tech. We must be wary of the 5.3.2 knights they command, cuz they are the only things standing between us and continental glory
