Dams/Hydro power and such...

[Howard!]

The sunspots are at the lowest levels since the little ice age, the Southern Average Temperature hasn't gone up (and infact had been going down) since the sunspots stagnated this decade, the Global Average temperature is now responding to the massive drop in solar output with a massive (how can I make this more obvious, hmmm...)

MASSIVE!!!

...drop in temperature, now the trend is back on the rise since around feb and the Northern Hemisphere is responding. There is also the point that Sunspots were at a high whilst the temperature was rising and that once the sunspot were on the decline the temperature was too. Also, sunspots are an indicator, not the cause, increased solar activity is!

There is still the point about the warming on the other planets in our solar system... but hey.

There is still also the point (again) that there is a proven coralation between sunspots and Global Temperatures, not just the Maunder Minimum.

 

[Soduka]

The sunspots are at the lowest levels since the little ice age, the Southern Average Temperature hasn't gone up (and infact had been going down) since the sunspots stagnated this decade, the Global Average temperature is now responding to the massive drop in solar output with a massive (how can I make this more obvious, hmmm...)

MASSIVE!!!

...drop in temperature, now the trend is back on the rise since around feb and the Northern Hemisphere is responding. There is also the point that Sunspots were at a high whilst the temperature was rising and that once the sunspot were on the decline the temperature was too. Also, sunspots are an indicator, not the cause, increased solar activity is!

There is still the point about the warming on the other planets in our solar system... but hey.

There is still also the point (again) that there is a proven coralation between sunspots and Global Temperatures, not just the Maunder Minimum.

Forget it, this has turned into too much of a Global Warming/All Climate change is stupid thread. You had me explain it just so you could tell me I was wrong.

 

[Howard!]

Forget it, this has turned into too much of a Global Warming/All Climate change is stupid thread. You had me explain it just so you could tell me I was wrong.

Sorry... All I'm saying is the science is still there to do, in truth nobody really knows what's causing what, and the actually mechanism is probably a mixture of both, I just get sick of people going, "The Science is done hahahahahahahahahaha!"

Back to the topic, there also needs to be something about water in the game.

 

[Napalm102]

Sunspot cycle is just that: a cycle it goes up and down. In fact there are several cycles in one. The small 11 year one and the larger taking hundreds of years. So the temeperature variations are also cyclic, but the point here is that in addition to all the temperature variations, humans are the cause of increased emissions of green house gasses into the atmosphere, that cause the mean temperature to be higher then it would have been without the human intervention.

Also as far as I know sun spot release massive ammount of charged particles, which get caught in the Van Allen belts anyway, so I don't see how that is going to increase the temperature on Earth.

 

[Howard!]

Sunspot cycle is just that: a cycle it goes up and down. In fact there are several cycles in one. The small 11 year one and the larger taking hundreds of years. So the temeperature variations are also cyclic, but the point here is that in addition to all the temperature variations, humans are the cause of increased emissions of green house gasses into the atmosphere, that cause the mean temperature to be higher then it would have been without the human intervention.

Also as far as I know sun spot release massive ammount of charged particles, which get caught in the Van Allen belts anyway, so I don't see how that is going to increase the temperature on Earth.

It still hasn't been proven conclusivly that CO_2 is a major factor at all, all we really know is that in the past CO_2 would rise 800 years after the temperature...