sman1975
Emperor
Hey, @Civ fan6 2018 - thanks. I think the mod looks pretty good, and turned out well.
Here's how I'm seeing things right now:
1. I don't mind working on a Canada civ, but it will be a week or two before I can get to it. Will need to get ideas from you on what kind of Trait, UU's and UB's will be needed.
2. I'm currently working on a different mod, but hope to have it done by the middle of this week. I'll be able to update the OP Persia version then. Will change the Leader Name and add the 'Heal on Destroy' promotion. Will also check Immortal's upgrade path to make sure if goes to the Musketman (with promotions).
3. Completing the "normal" version of the Persia civ will take about 2 minutes.
4. I like the idea of Persia having both Chariot Archer (ranged) and War Chariot (melee) units. Just "feels" right to me historically. So, if I can't get the current model working, I'll find another. There's a mod that uses about 20 different melee chariots, so I'm hoping I'll be able to at least get one of them working.
5. The +1 range promotion is automatically awarded to all "Archery" and "Siege" units (which includes Chariot Archer).
6. I'm not sure if I want to publish this in my workshop. As I'm doing this for someone else, it doesn't really fit into what I want to keep there, especially since I'm trying to focus my workshop on my "World at War" family of mods. I do have a different Steam account, so I'll look into publishing these custom Civs under that account.
Some questions:
1. Still need a final name for the OP Persia civ. I used "Extreme Persia" as a placeholder. If you want a different name, let me know. Reason I'm asking about this specifically, is that it sounds like you might want more OP civs in the future. If so, I think it's a good idea right now to come up with a leading adjective that we can use to "brand" this family of mods. We'd use the same adjective on all OP civ mods. So, perhaps "Extreme Canada" for example. My problem with the word "extreme" is that is sounds kind of lame - not "butch" enough. Something more along the lines of these: Ultimate, Optimum, Capstone, Consummate, Crowning, Quintessential, Supreme, Transcendent, Colossal, Triumphant, Victorious, Undefeated, etc.
Since the adjective is part of the brand, it needs to be something that can be used for all the OP civs coming out later.
1a. Since these mods will be release as pairs, it might be a good idea to have a branding adjective for the "normal" versions as well - just so when people see them in the Steam search results, they'll know they belong together. So, if the OP civ is called "Persia Transcendent" perhaps the normal civ will be "Persia Triumphant" - then "Canada Transcendent" and "Canada Triumphant" etc. Of course, the word order can be switched, e.g. "Transcendent Persia" and "Triumphant Persia", etc.
2. The new promotion - Heal on Destroyed Enemy. Is that for all Persian units? Or just the UU's?
3. Whether a promotion is retained on upgrade is defined in the promotion itself. Some transfer, some don't. I haven't looked at this very closely, but if a promotion doesn't transfer, I'd have to change that on the basic promotion - which means it will transfer for all civs, not just the OP Persians. I can create a new promotion with similar characteristics, but there are some design considerations concerning this.
4. We haven't added any music to the mod. There are several Persian mods out there, many of which added custom music. If you'd like to reuse their music, let me know which mod sounds the best to you.
Here's how I'm seeing things right now:
1. I don't mind working on a Canada civ, but it will be a week or two before I can get to it. Will need to get ideas from you on what kind of Trait, UU's and UB's will be needed.
2. I'm currently working on a different mod, but hope to have it done by the middle of this week. I'll be able to update the OP Persia version then. Will change the Leader Name and add the 'Heal on Destroy' promotion. Will also check Immortal's upgrade path to make sure if goes to the Musketman (with promotions).
3. Completing the "normal" version of the Persia civ will take about 2 minutes.
4. I like the idea of Persia having both Chariot Archer (ranged) and War Chariot (melee) units. Just "feels" right to me historically. So, if I can't get the current model working, I'll find another. There's a mod that uses about 20 different melee chariots, so I'm hoping I'll be able to at least get one of them working.
5. The +1 range promotion is automatically awarded to all "Archery" and "Siege" units (which includes Chariot Archer).
6. I'm not sure if I want to publish this in my workshop. As I'm doing this for someone else, it doesn't really fit into what I want to keep there, especially since I'm trying to focus my workshop on my "World at War" family of mods. I do have a different Steam account, so I'll look into publishing these custom Civs under that account.
Some questions:
1. Still need a final name for the OP Persia civ. I used "Extreme Persia" as a placeholder. If you want a different name, let me know. Reason I'm asking about this specifically, is that it sounds like you might want more OP civs in the future. If so, I think it's a good idea right now to come up with a leading adjective that we can use to "brand" this family of mods. We'd use the same adjective on all OP civ mods. So, perhaps "Extreme Canada" for example. My problem with the word "extreme" is that is sounds kind of lame - not "butch" enough. Something more along the lines of these: Ultimate, Optimum, Capstone, Consummate, Crowning, Quintessential, Supreme, Transcendent, Colossal, Triumphant, Victorious, Undefeated, etc.
Since the adjective is part of the brand, it needs to be something that can be used for all the OP civs coming out later.
1a. Since these mods will be release as pairs, it might be a good idea to have a branding adjective for the "normal" versions as well - just so when people see them in the Steam search results, they'll know they belong together. So, if the OP civ is called "Persia Transcendent" perhaps the normal civ will be "Persia Triumphant" - then "Canada Transcendent" and "Canada Triumphant" etc. Of course, the word order can be switched, e.g. "Transcendent Persia" and "Triumphant Persia", etc.
2. The new promotion - Heal on Destroyed Enemy. Is that for all Persian units? Or just the UU's?
3. Whether a promotion is retained on upgrade is defined in the promotion itself. Some transfer, some don't. I haven't looked at this very closely, but if a promotion doesn't transfer, I'd have to change that on the basic promotion - which means it will transfer for all civs, not just the OP Persians. I can create a new promotion with similar characteristics, but there are some design considerations concerning this.
4. We haven't added any music to the mod. There are several Persian mods out there, many of which added custom music. If you'd like to reuse their music, let me know which mod sounds the best to you.