Darius, The Best Leader.

[civver_764]

Mansa Musa is pretty beast as well, he's my favorite leader. He's also got the best AI personality. He's not psycho and is generally pretty lenient about things, and he's far from a complete pushover(unless he gets...really horsehockey land) and usually is one of the tech leaders.

HC is always great, he used to be my favorite. The terrace is like adding the Creative trait to him as well, which is all the better.

 

[Iranon]

We should be thankful that Mansa Musa doesn't abuse his UU... Skirmishers are almost impossible to take out cost-effectively and lack a non-UU counter.

 

[DigitalBoy]

We should be thankful that Mansa Musa doesn't abuse his UU... Skirmishers are almost impossible to take out cost-effectively and lack a non-UU counter.

Definitely. It makes me wonder why they made the Babylonian bowman so lack luster in comparison.

 

[CivIVMonger]

They can't make EVERYTHING perfect.

 

[The Rook]

HC is always great, he used to be my favorite. The terrace is like adding the Creative trait to him as well, which is all the better.

Not quite. 60 hammers per city to match the free +2 culture is really sluggish versus Creative, and momentum is one of Creative's great strengths. Then you have to consider that a Creative leader can add a Library for just 45 hammers to make +4. One of the less discussed aspects is the hidden culture that cities produce. Each ring of a city's cultural influence beyond the outer layer produces an extra +20 hidden culture every turn. So fast and early border pops can often establish your culture for the rest of the game.

HC is very strong, but IMO if you take away the Quechua he looks decidedly ordinary. The hammers/beakers saved on early defense allow him to rex faster, or more readily abuse Industrious for early wonders. Then there is the cheesy rush...

 

[Shurdus]

 

[The Rook]

I always look forward to your posts Shurdus. Sometimes this forum can take a repetitive tone as the same questions are asked, points are made, and discussions repeated over and over by us lesser civers. Your posts are never trite or forgettable, always original, insightful and elaborate.

 

[Shurdus]

This subject is pretty much done a hundred times. Searching the boards is in general more wise that just starting it again. That is what the dead-horse saying and logo means, nothing more and nothing less.

My post was in no way a stab towards anybody really. I did not call you a lesser user, nor did I call any one else that. Whatever may be of that, you imply that the smiley means so much more than it did to me that you have me wondering where you get all this negative vibes from.

 

[The Rook]

This subject is pretty much done a hundred times. Searching the boards is in general more wise that just starting it again. That is what the dead-horse saying and logo means, nothing more and nothing less.

My post was in no way a stab towards anybody really. I did not call you a lesser user, nor did I call any one else that. Whatever may be of that, you imply that the smiley means so much more than it did to me that you have me wondering where you get all this negative vibes from.

With respect, my response had as much intent seriousness as your dead-horse smiley.

However, I think it shows a little bit of an ego implying that this discussion should end here because it has been done. CIV is an aging game now, and most areas of it have been discussed to death. If people were afraid of this forum would be a quiet place.

 

[Fluxx]

I like beating dead horses with a stick.

It is my favourite past-time

 

[CivIVMonger]

Civ is mine!

 

[muxec]

Just made my first successful rush on Emperor and now I thin that Egyptians are fine. With only two cities producing chariots I got 2 Khmer cities (both holy) and killed Suryalien, 2 Maya cities (one holy shrined of dominant religion) and one German city with access to Bronze.

Darius also has super chariots, but I doubt the efficiency of Persian chariots against Holkans.

 

[CivIVMonger]

4 posts behind Muxec! (at the time.)

Good Job! I completed my first Emporer rush yesterday!

 

[muxec]

4 posts behind Muxec! (at the time.)

Good Job! I completed my first Emporer rush yesterday!

By rush do you mean rush without crashing your economy?

 

[CivIVMonger]

Rush as in "Rush the enemy with military force, usually in the mid BC's." And yes, without crashing the economy.

 

[muxec]

Rush as in "Rush the enemy with military force, usually in
the mid BC's." And yes, without crashing the economy.

Grats! And I failed. I thought that I crashed my economy and did not expand... When holy cities got out of revolt and unshrined ones got shrines I could run at 90% research but all the land was taken and I lost. I guess the general rule is expand anyway, if you do not have lots of cities on emperor even if your economy is uber you are dead. Not like on Monarch when drafting with 8 cities wins most battles.

Offtopic: You joined 7 years after me and already have more posts, flooder!

 

[Crusher1]

6 cities is enough on any level.

 

[mi6agent]

6 cities is enough on any level.

QFT !

/thread

 

[Crusher1]

No clue what that means.

 

[mi6agent]

No clue what that means.

= Quote for Truth
no surf internet enough ? Too much Civ IV ?