DBear02--Jerusalem
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madviking
north american scum
OK...
Got it
Got it
Lullaby
peaceful builder
Better do so. I don't see me being able to play and haveing enough time to spend the next 4 or 5 days.
madviking
north american scum
0- lose oil,
IBT: Ghandi dies...
Berlin completes UN...
1- <flight of the valkyries music plays>
2- more advancing
...
1812 AD- dump all sixty-something troops near Madrid
IT: no retaliation!!![[party]](/images/smilies/partytime.gif "Party [party]")
1814 AD-
WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DISTROYED MADRID!! suffering only one or two tank deaths!
IBT: Ghandi dies...
Berlin completes UN...
1- <flight of the valkyries music plays>
2- more advancing
...
1812 AD- dump all sixty-something troops near Madrid
IT: no retaliation!!
1814 AD-
WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DISTROYED MADRID!! suffering only one or two tank deaths!
madviking
north american scum
Methos I played til 1820 AD with ~95 turns left for the 20K.
I've got to say, this is one of the best come-from behind games I've EVER seen. Great job people!
I've got to say, this is one of the best come-from behind games I've EVER seen. Great job people!
Got it.
It isnt over yet. Germany has the UN though I doubt theyll ever hold a vote, or at least not win it. Even though its getting close we still need to build cultural improvements. Itll shave off a few turns. Ill switch Jerusalem to research lab and than work on Seti.
IMO we should continue research on techs that provide culture. At least for a little while. Even go for Nuclear Power to increase our production. We may be doing great, but that doesnt mean were going to win.
Either way, great job MV! Madrid is no longer a threat. Should I just raze the rest of Spain or attempt to control it?
It isnt over yet. Germany has the UN though I doubt theyll ever hold a vote, or at least not win it. Even though its getting close we still need to build cultural improvements. Itll shave off a few turns. Ill switch Jerusalem to research lab and than work on Seti.
IMO we should continue research on techs that provide culture. At least for a little while. Even go for Nuclear Power to increase our production. We may be doing great, but that doesnt mean were going to win.
Either way, great job MV! Madrid is no longer a threat. Should I just raze the rest of Spain or attempt to control it?
madviking
north american scum
How are we going to deal with the German SS? A war could be suicide...
madviking
north american scum
Well, we don't have Rockets so we can't know if they have Al yet. But I checked and saw Germans have 3 Us, 2 Rubbers (another on the Spanish island nad it's harbored 
) I guess its a race against time...
) I guess its a race against time...
DBear
unbeliever
If Germany was played by a human they would declare war and try to get Spain's vote that way. Fortunately the AI isn't smart enough to do that. I think we should send the troops back home to defend against Germany, they are the bigger threat now. I am surprised that Spain didn't try to bomb our convoy out of commission. Good job team.
Pre-Turn: Wake all the boats and head them towards the other side of Spain. Switch Jerusalem to Research Lab. Hire some policemen and engineers.
IT: Wasnt paying close enough attention and Hastings riots. Spain sends three destroyers and a transport near Bangalore.
1822: While were waiting for our transport, we go ahead and raze Seville. Looks like Seville had Smiths. Jerusalem short-rushes to get the Research Lab in one.
IT: We renew the RoP deal with Germany. Jerusalem Research Lab>Seti Program. This drops our win date from 1982 to 1979. Spain lands four TOWs and a cav between Exeter and Bangalore.
And we get this:
1824: Bombard the landing force than whip them.
1826: Zzzz
IT: Germans finish the Seti Program.
1828 IT: Rocketry>Nuclear Power
-WW is kicking in like crazy. Next player needs to deal with happiness. SF is currently rioting but will come back next turn.
-I wasnt able to fit everything on the transports so there are still troops in Spain. Two flak, two infantry, four tanks, and eight Spanish workers.
-At the end of this turn our MPP ends with Germany. I suggest we keep that indefinitely to keep them on our good side. One problem with this is well be screwed on ww. This will also keep the UN vote inconclusive.
-No beakers have been gathered towards Nuclear Power so it can be switched if that is preferred. I was thinking of getting a nuclear power plant in Jerusalem so we can build culture faster. At this point in the game Im wondering if it would be wiser to instead switch research to 0% and buy Miniaturization from Germany or just research it. This will get us building the Internet a little quicker.
Here's the save
IT: Wasnt paying close enough attention and Hastings riots. Spain sends three destroyers and a transport near Bangalore.
1822: While were waiting for our transport, we go ahead and raze Seville. Looks like Seville had Smiths. Jerusalem short-rushes to get the Research Lab in one.
IT: We renew the RoP deal with Germany. Jerusalem Research Lab>Seti Program. This drops our win date from 1982 to 1979. Spain lands four TOWs and a cav between Exeter and Bangalore.
And we get this:
1824: Bombard the landing force than whip them.
1826: Zzzz
IT: Germans finish the Seti Program.
1828 IT: Rocketry>Nuclear Power
-WW is kicking in like crazy. Next player needs to deal with happiness. SF is currently rioting but will come back next turn.
-I wasnt able to fit everything on the transports so there are still troops in Spain. Two flak, two infantry, four tanks, and eight Spanish workers.
-At the end of this turn our MPP ends with Germany. I suggest we keep that indefinitely to keep them on our good side. One problem with this is well be screwed on ww. This will also keep the UN vote inconclusive.
-No beakers have been gathered towards Nuclear Power so it can be switched if that is preferred. I was thinking of getting a nuclear power plant in Jerusalem so we can build culture faster. At this point in the game Im wondering if it would be wiser to instead switch research to 0% and buy Miniaturization from Germany or just research it. This will get us building the Internet a little quicker.
Here's the save
madviking
north american scum
Whew, we dodged a bullet...
madviking
north american scum
Who? He's hasn't been online in an eternaty.Methos said:
DBear
unbeliever
Got the save, will play later.
DBear
unbeliever
0) 1830: Military costs are killing us. We certainly don't need any more. I switch the military builds to labs wherever possible. I also disband obsolete units to lower costs. Nuke Power won't do us any good. Yes, Germany will probably beat us to the internet. However, Mini is the prereq to Genetics and the AI rarely if ever researches Genetics. Those two wonders will help us. Cancel the MPP with Germany so we can make peace with Spain. We do so, extracting 660 gold. We then trade Spain rubber for wine and dye, helping our happiness.
Another reason to make peace with Spain is that as long as they are the second largest, the UN will remain deadlocked. If we were to pass Spain, Spain would throw its vote to Germany and we would lose.
2) 1834: Germany and Spain make peace. I am building aquas and hospitals in towns and cities to make them larger to support more units. I'm also joining workers, since we have enough slave labor now.
3) 1836: Keep going with the plan. Trade incense to Spain for 31/turn.
4) 1838: Otto calls up to demand 61 gold. We have plenty, so that's no problem.
5) 1840: Germans build the Internet. The troops are all home now. Something else to keep an eye on...Germany has nearly 75K culture. Fortunately Spain has some culture of their own, yet another reason to let them live.
6) 1842: Germans declare war. They overrun Dover. They have 3 SoDs bypassing Barbaria. Our artillery can damage them, but can our infantry hold? I'll leave this to the team to see if they want to play it out. I have not made any moves yet.
Another reason to make peace with Spain is that as long as they are the second largest, the UN will remain deadlocked. If we were to pass Spain, Spain would throw its vote to Germany and we would lose.
2) 1834: Germany and Spain make peace. I am building aquas and hospitals in towns and cities to make them larger to support more units. I'm also joining workers, since we have enough slave labor now.
3) 1836: Keep going with the plan. Trade incense to Spain for 31/turn.
4) 1838: Otto calls up to demand 61 gold. We have plenty, so that's no problem.
5) 1840: Germans build the Internet. The troops are all home now. Something else to keep an eye on...Germany has nearly 75K culture. Fortunately Spain has some culture of their own, yet another reason to let them live.
6) 1842: Germans declare war. They overrun Dover. They have 3 SoDs bypassing Barbaria. Our artillery can damage them, but can our infantry hold? I'll leave this to the team to see if they want to play it out. I have not made any moves yet.
madviking
north american scum
Argh! 
As long as we hold on to Jerusalem we'll still be alive...
As long as we hold on to Jerusalem we'll still be alive...
I dont know if it would help, but we can sign an MA with Spain. We can get it for our World Map and 583 gold. It might divert the Germans a little.
Unless we can stop the Germans were screwed. We have some 80 odd turns to hit 20k and it wont happen with the Germans on our back. Try the MA with Spain and throw up some speed bumps in front of the Germans. Remember to win we only need Jerusalem, thats it.
Id pull out of the east and the southwest. Sacrifice those towns if we have too. Maybe after if they take a few towns theyll be willing to talk peace.
I dont mind attempting to finish this one out. Who knows, we may get lucky.
Unless we can stop the Germans were screwed. We have some 80 odd turns to hit 20k and it wont happen with the Germans on our back. Try the MA with Spain and throw up some speed bumps in front of the Germans. Remember to win we only need Jerusalem, thats it.
Id pull out of the east and the southwest. Sacrifice those towns if we have too. Maybe after if they take a few towns theyll be willing to talk peace.
I dont mind attempting to finish this one out. Who knows, we may get lucky.
