DD04 - Clash of the Titans (SID)

Without any luxuries and no MP a size 2 city would riot, so it's above Monarch. I don't really have any other method of confirming that it's SID.

GPS to Cyc

I'd like to continue the tech deal until the AA ends, since we all agreed on the original tech plan. At that time, we can renegotiate a new deal either a 2,3 or 4 tribe deal. I've seen a stack of 5 Aztec units (C-Scouts & Immortals) coming my way, so the rest of you will probably have company soon.
 
gps to Soul Warrior.
 
my ponies report incoming bogies.
2 zulu immortals.
luckily its about 10 tiles away, and i peeked over the hills just in time.
will have iron or ponies hooked up so i can reinforce, in force.

gps calis
 
I have the turn, but didn't get an answer on Monarchy or Republic ??

I strongly propose Monarchy, due to our always war situation with the AIs
 
I agree, Monarchy...crowns for all :D
 
Yeah, whatever.
 
Many gods for everybody...I give a round of Polytheism...

Started on Philosophy...

Ah, and the game is actually at Regent lvl...
 
GPS to Cyc

I'm pretty sure that this game is above Monarch

Next time you found a city not connected to you road network (ie no luxuries) watch what happens when it reaches size 2 (you'll have an unhappy citizen). Emperor and above start with only a single content citizen.
 
It is a Regent game. If the some of characteristics are different, it is because the bic rules were altered.

If you guys look closer at the game, you will see that denyd's tribe is in it's worst government. The sooner he gets to Monarch, his favorite government, he has no real need for combined research (other than buddying up). With combined research in a Regent game designed to base attention on the AI during the AA while he grows his Coastal based tribe to his favorite government, thanks to you, he can out-research the the Scientific and Industrious tribes. ;) Notice he eliminated the Scientific Leaders in this game.

gps to Soul Warrior.
 
Just to clarify a bit on Cyc's work:

SGL's are out because whenever I get one, I feel guilty about it (see DD14) and when it comes really early, it gives someone an edge (see DD14)

As to having the edge once we reach the Middle Ages, I think Persia is the one with the edge as the only SCI tribe, they will start with a 1 tech lead on everyone else. Also even though I'll get extra commerce from the SEA trait, the extra movement and cheaper harbors are pretty useless as the map is a Pangaea. Also I'm the only one in the game with a defensive UU, which will make it much tougher to trigger my GA or to have a potent attacking force without bringing out a lot of artillery. As I sized up this game I actually had myself tied for 3rd place behind the Iroquois (fast growth, lower corruption & great UU) and the Persians (cheap libraries = faster research, the bonus tech and a great UU). Both the Celts and I are pretty equal with my extra commerce cancelling out their excellent UU. We both are a bit handicapped in research compared to the other pair.

I still don't buy that this is a Regent game. Next time I get the save I'll post a pair of screenshots. I have a size 2 city that's not connected to any luxuries. There is an AC serving as MP. I'll post a shot of the city with and without the MP. Without you'll see 1 content & 1 unhappy, while with the MP there will be 2 content. That hopefully show that this is at least Emperor.

I'd think that only Persia wouldn't be unable to keep up with the 3 AGR tribes in growth since everyone started on a river with a pair of cows. Assuming a granary that means everyone has a 4 turn settler factory once their land is improved, but their faster workers allow them to improve their land faster.
 
GPS to Cyc

My apologies in that this is not a SID game (you are right Cyc), though I'm afraid I can't even be sure it's as high as a Regent game. I've checked the game create screen and the level is not set there for a scenario game, so it must come from the BIQ file and that says this is a currently set to Chieftain. I was pretty sure that it was originally set to SID, but I noticed that whenever I reset the rules, the level reset to Chieftain, so it's possible that I never reset it after the final rule edit.

I have a proposal to allow this game to continue. We will complete the original tech deal and then this will become an everyone at war with everyone else including the AI. This will give the Persians a bit of a head start, but having cheap MDI will help offset it.

The other option is for everyone to go to war now with everyone else, but that might create a major imbalance in techs contributed to the rest.
 
Well, with a headstart to Philosophy I should vote direct war, but I second the "together through the ancient age" option. :D
 
Ok, I can't go against the majority. End of AA for everyone, then war with everyone including the AI.

Default is Regent, denyd. If you don't change it, that's what you get. ;)
 
gps to Soul Warrior.
 
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