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This happens when you do nothing but troll me. Say hello to rmsharpe, I'm sure he enjoys hanging out on my ignore list. You think you've backed me into a corner somehow?
Anyways, if I've learned one thing from this thread, it's that a good many CFC members suffer from a bad case of what some people call limousine liberalism. It's nice to be all high and mighty with your morals and ethics while you sit behind a computer with all your luxuries, but if you are stripped of those luxuries you would suddenly turn into what you all claim to revile. That in the real world, when real people are put in real situations, somehow morals that you claim to cherish go out the window in the name of survival. To be alive and able to feel guilty for the things you've done in a war is a thousand times better than to be dead and unable to feel anything. And in a war, if it's either me or him, he dies every time.
These are the same types of people who are upset when they find out that, in an effort to get information that could lead to the saving of many lives on both sides, certain people in captivity are coerced somehow.
That's right, some people are upset because people died, in a war. Some people are even upset because in the process of saving lives on both sides, a few peoples' self esteem was damaged, in a war.
That's not an endorsement of Guantanamo et al, by the way, as the war the United States is fighting is not a total war for survival.
Unbelievable how many people are just out of touch with the situation on the ground in the real world.