Declare war on England?

[Bootstoots]

Egypt has been eliminated, and England is looking like the next logical target. Should we declare war on them next turnchat?

 

[Sarevok]

why not? we were going to kill them anyways...

 

[Rik Meleet]

Sure. Hadn't we already decided to do that ?
The only war declaration we still argue on is the one to go after England. Some of you still prefer to attack the Zulu for some strange reason.

 

[Chieftess]

Yes, of course, England can be finished off really quickly. BTW, Rik - I'm requesting that a number of workers be escorted to England to help with the railing project.

We also want to attack the Zulus to establish a choke hold. (they're the only civ that's furious with us anyway. Maybe it's because we trade with Persia? )

 

[Rik Meleet]

It's the task of the Minister of Defense to assess the situation in a military way. Leave the civ's attitude to the FA and the trade to T&T.

I ask the Minister of Defense: "Why is it better to cripple and harm a future ally in the war with Persia than to use him as a distraction for the Persians ?". Differently put: Why fight the Zulu when we need them as an ally ?

 

[tao]

It's the task of the Minister of Defense to assess the situation in a military way. Leave the civ's attitude to the FA and the trade to T&T.

I ask the Minister of Defense: "Why is it better to cripple and harm a future ally in the war with Persia than to use him as a distraction for the Persians ?". Differently put: Why fight the Zulu when we need them as an ally ?

I am none of FA, T&T, MoD. But I would want to attack the Zulus

• to get 2-3 luxuries we currently have to trade for
• to control the isthmus towards the Aztecs
• to give us workers for building railroads for our troops

Another good question is, whether we form a ROP with Persia (maybe even an alliance) to faster eliminate the Zulus. We could use the English silks for it .....

 

[Chieftess]

I wouldn't mind having an ROP with Persia either.

The reason the people (maybe it's just Tao? ) want to attack the Zulus is to:

1 - Get the strategic choke point.
2 - Get extra luxuries.
3 - Establish a foothold on the other continent.

Whether we attack Persia, or the Aztecs next is another discussion. Even this is another discussion. The people want conquest, so someone has to go. The Zulus *ARE* the weakest link!

 

[Sarevok]

use the aztecs against the Persians.

 

[tao]

use the aztecs against the Persians.

Yes. Aztecs are stronger and thus a better ally. And we will have control over the chokepoint. Let the Aztecs go into Persian territory. Kill Persia. Kill Aztecs far from home.

 

[Chieftess]

On the contrary, the Aztecs are the weaker of the 2. We've been strong compared to the Aztecs for the longest time, but only recently strong compared to the Persians.

 

[tao]

On the contrary, the Aztecs are the weaker of the 2. We've been strong compared to the Aztecs for the longest time, but only recently strong compared to the Persians.

Stronger than Zulus!

 

[Sarevok]

our combined power is stronger than Persia, use the aztecs with our combined forces to kill persia while using an ROP attached to the alliance deal with the Aztecs to move our troops into Aztec territory steadily. When the persian war is over, we kill the Aztecs off.