Def pact after declaration of war

[MichaelQ]

Hi there!

I am not sure whether this a bug or I just misunderstood sth. Maybe one of you can help me with one of these WW1 like situation:

Turkey declares war on me
The vikings with whom I have a def pact declare war on Turkey
Russia with whom the Turks have a def pact declare war on the Vikings, and so do the Russian's vasall, the Dutch.
Based on my def pact with the Vikings I am forced to declare war on both the Dutch and the Russians.

The last steps are totally fine. However I thought declaring into war to someone immediately ends all def pacts. So how come the Turk's def pact is still valid after having declared war on me?

Mike

 

[clanky4]

Defensive pacts in RFC work differently. They are permanent in the sense that they will not be cancelled until one party or the other manually cancels it. You can sign additional defensive pacts while you are already at war but they will not cause the person you signed the defense pact with the declare war on your enemies.

 

[baseballpie]

I had assumed it would not end because you had D-pacts of your own, and your allies would DoW the Turks, validating their pact with Russia.

 

[Akbarthegreat]

I wish someone isolated the mechanism.