No Hatty please--there are so many games with that leader. Feel somewhat the same way about Gilgamesh, but not as much. I'd prefer some traits or leader/civ that haven't been used much on deity level, but other than that I'm not picky with settings.
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shyuhe
Deity
I only suggested best ball (only for the 1st set) to avoid the problems of starting next to Monty. If we're ok with re-rolling, then we don't need the best ball start.
Leader, I don't have a strong preference. I would prefer to not use Hatty or Gilgamesh. Perhaps one of the Americans or French?
Leader, I don't have a strong preference. I would prefer to not use Hatty or Gilgamesh. Perhaps one of the Americans or French?
I see the point of those that are not playing on deity, however, please consider that there are very strong players on our team. Ras mentions in IM every other day 
p) that he wants a focused game for optimal play. This of course should be expected if we play such a game. Since we're a team and not just a few random players I think we can use a non-overused leader. I suggested Gilgamesh as I haven't played him in a while. I consider him decent, I especially love creative, it is really strong on deity. However I think he'll provide us with a challenge. With protective and vulture we actually might be able to stand up to an early DOW so we probably won't have to reload.
I am fine with the "only-space"-restriction. Domination attempts that start in the renaissance era often take long anyway and depending on the AI's teching abilities such attempts occasionally end in SR wins anyway.
I personally think limiting us to a renaissance war, say, agains 1 AI would be a challenge, I have some deficits regarding late-game techpath and economy.
To all those that consider themselves "not quite good enough", I just want to say, please come forward with your suggestions and ideas. They will be as good as other's ideas. We want to discuss our strategy and not just do what a few people say so your opinion will be valued just as any other's.
I'd rather not get a selection of starts, I prefer playing the first we get.
p) that he wants a focused game for optimal play. This of course should be expected if we play such a game. Since we're a team and not just a few random players I think we can use a non-overused leader. I suggested Gilgamesh as I haven't played him in a while. I consider him decent, I especially love creative, it is really strong on deity. However I think he'll provide us with a challenge. With protective and vulture we actually might be able to stand up to an early DOW so we probably won't have to reload.I am fine with the "only-space"-restriction. Domination attempts that start in the renaissance era often take long anyway and depending on the AI's teching abilities such attempts occasionally end in SR wins anyway.
I personally think limiting us to a renaissance war, say, agains 1 AI would be a challenge, I have some deficits regarding late-game techpath and economy.
To all those that consider themselves "not quite good enough", I just want to say, please come forward with your suggestions and ideas. They will be as good as other's ideas. We want to discuss our strategy and not just do what a few people say so your opinion will be valued just as any other's.
I'd rather not get a selection of starts, I prefer playing the first we get.
RRRaskolnikov
Goldfish
So we had a little chat with Paulus and Mystyfly about the leader choice.
We tryed to take into account what was said previously: no hatty, creative preferably, not an overhelmingly strong leader...
that lets: Zara, Louis, Sury, Cathy, Pericles, kublay, Gilga
Zara, Sury, pericles, Gilga seemed the most powerfull so we ended up with Louis, Cathy, Kublay...
Paulus doesn't like Louis's moustache a lot so the final match was : Cathy vs Kublay...
Ofc Cathy is hot and has a nice UU/UB combo for a space race game so she came out on top...
Do we go with Cathy/Fractal/Space as final settings?
Cheers
We tryed to take into account what was said previously: no hatty, creative preferably, not an overhelmingly strong leader...
that lets: Zara, Louis, Sury, Cathy, Pericles, kublay, Gilga
Zara, Sury, pericles, Gilga seemed the most powerfull so we ended up with Louis, Cathy, Kublay...
Paulus doesn't like Louis's moustache a lot so the final match was : Cathy vs Kublay...
Ofc Cathy is hot and has a nice UU/UB combo for a space race game so she came out on top...
Do we go with Cathy/Fractal/Space as final settings?
Cheers
pigswill
fly (one day)
Lurkin'
Wot, no love for Sury? Best UU/UB in the game.
Wot, no love for Sury? Best UU/UB in the game.
muxec
Prince
Subscribed. Count on me next year as I climb the difficulty ladder.
RRRaskolnikov
Goldfish
Well, Duckweed asked for a not too cheesy leader... but perhaps your comment on UU is sarcastic
Subscribed. Count on me next year as I climb the difficulty ladder.
with pleasure
Guys, do I generate a save?
That's what I said in IM tooRusten said:
As I understand it we're looking for a leader somewhere between the very good and the bad ones. I think picking a decent leader like cathy is a good idea as not everyone is that comfortable on deity
(me included).Since we go to space, we can put cathy's UB to use for a change...
Ras mentionned he'd be offline for a few days now so I'll generate a save once duckweed and dirk gave their opinions. I'll take the first start I get unless it's a very good one.
Dirk1302
Deity
Cathy's fine.
obsolete
Deity
I don't play Civ anymore, but just lurking in the shadows for today...
The rather unexpected new patch 3.19 raises the question "What version do we play?"
I think most will want to leave it at 3.17 as they play in other 3.17 games such as SGOTMs. If anyone objects to 3.17, you've got a few hours to say so
I think most will want to leave it at 3.17 as they play in other 3.17 games such as SGOTMs. If anyone objects to 3.17, you've got a few hours to say so
Dirk1302
Deity
No objections, it's highly likely that both versions are compatible though. We can test it easily, i can upgrade to 3.19 roll a start and if you can't read it i'll downgrade (well that's a reinstall but np, i have no ongoing mp or sgotm games going).
@obsolete, not much happening today probably. See you when Civ V comes out, probably sooner as after some months you might feel that peculiar itch again. I know, i've been there, so have you iirc.
@obsolete, not much happening today probably. See you when Civ V comes out, probably sooner as after some months you might feel that peculiar itch again. I know, i've been there, so have you iirc.
Dirk1302
Deity
Ok, i won't upgrade in that case.
So I rolled a start. BtS 3.17, Normal speed, Fractal map, Catherine of Russia.
First start I got:
My first thought: "Woops, gotta turn on the resource bubbles". Sadly, this didn't change anything
As a reminder: We start with Mining and Hunting.
I count 6 FPs = 2.4
-> 2 . 3 Hills, all grassland hills. 13 workable riverside tiles. 4 forests.
I'm quite sure we'll either find some resource either in the fog or uncovered later, once we get AH/BW. We should probably move the scout to the hill 2N1W to find out more.
I'm not too sure about this start. I'd probably settle in place turning this into a strong buerocracy capital.
We'll surely be able to chop and whip out a few settlers but after that the capital will be utter crap production-wise and busy building infra. We'll need to find a GPFarm and a good production site should we want to build any wonders. Chopping one in the capital won't really be an option.
While the lack of forests "saves" a few worker turns, those FPs will take long to get improved. I'd start with a worker and tech agri > BW > archery. We don't really need to tech BW before archery as our hills aren't forested and we can improve lots of good tiles pre-BW, but we will find copper sooner, probably even in our capital.
Is that were we stand roster-wise?
mystyfly
Raskolnikov
Rusten
Duckweed
Dirk
open spot
Shyuhe
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First start I got:
My first thought: "Woops, gotta turn on the resource bubbles". Sadly, this didn't change anything
As a reminder: We start with Mining and Hunting.
I count 6 FPs = 2.4
-> 2 . 3 Hills, all grassland hills. 13 workable riverside tiles. 4 forests.I'm quite sure we'll either find some resource either in the fog or uncovered later, once we get AH/BW. We should probably move the scout to the hill 2N1W to find out more.
I'm not too sure about this start. I'd probably settle in place turning this into a strong buerocracy capital.
We'll surely be able to chop and whip out a few settlers but after that the capital will be utter crap production-wise and busy building infra. We'll need to find a GPFarm and a good production site should we want to build any wonders. Chopping one in the capital won't really be an option.
While the lack of forests "saves" a few worker turns, those FPs will take long to get improved. I'd start with a worker and tech agri > BW > archery. We don't really need to tech BW before archery as our hills aren't forested and we can improve lots of good tiles pre-BW, but we will find copper sooner, probably even in our capital.
Is that were we stand roster-wise?
mystyfly
Raskolnikov
Rusten
Duckweed
Dirk
open spot
Shyuhe
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RRRaskolnikov
Goldfish
Hi guys
I agree with Rusten... How about moving the scout 1 SW -> W before settling?
@Obselete, Ungy: tx for lurking... don't hesitate to help us!
@Mysty: Tx for generating the save...
Roster duty:
Mystyfly-> up
Raskolnikov -> on deck
Rusten
Duckweed
Dirk
Paulus
Shyuhe
Cheers
I agree with Rusten... How about moving the scout 1 SW -> W before settling?
@Obselete, Ungy: tx for lurking... don't hesitate to help us!
@Mysty: Tx for generating the save...
Roster duty:
Mystyfly-> up
Raskolnikov -> on deck
Rusten
Duckweed
Dirk
Paulus
Shyuhe
Cheers
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