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Meme Lord
maybe trade wang kon for gwanggaeto. and i don't know about celts and austrians, europe is always so overrepresented. mbundu would be cool, though. i actually had to look that one up.
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maybe trade wang kon for gwanggaeto. and i don't know about celts and austrians, europe is always so overrepresented. mbundu would be cool, though. i actually had to look that one up.
Oohforf
Praise loud, blame soft.
Alright, but I'm sticking to Boudica (I want another female figure), and Shaka Zulu, and Zara Yaqob, as I think there isn't much more for those two.
Austrian Empire - Maria Theresa (Good to have another female figure in the game)
Korean Empire - Gwanggaeto - (another oriental empire leader would be nice)
Zulu Empire - Shaka Zulu - (Good to have another African Empire, since Askia is kinda alone (not really counting Ramesess lol))
Ethiopian Empire - Zara Yaqob - (Above)
Portuguese Empire - Afonso V - (Why not?)
Sauk Empire - Black Hawk - (Really nice to see another first nations empire)
Mayan Empire - K'inich Janaab' Pakal (Pacal)- (To top it off with the incans and the Aztecs)
Celtic Empire - Boudica - (An amazing woman figure in history, and everybody loves the celtics ^^)
Mbundu Empire - Queen Nzinga - (A great female warrior queen in history. Another nice African empire leader.)
There, I updated my list a bit, teehee.
Oohforf
Praise loud, blame soft.
No, that would be too close to Egypt.
awesome
Meme Lord
haille salassie could sell more copies in jamaica. yeah, i went there.
How about Great Zimbabwe then?
Of course there is more to Ethiopia and Zululand. The Zulu also had Cetshwayo. I still would pick Shaka for the Zulu. As for Ethiopia - Haile Sealssie and Menelik are much better chioces than Zara Yaqob.
Oohforf
Praise loud, blame soft.
That wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
Yeah, Haile Eelassie I wouldn't be bad at all. I probably just chose Zara Yaqob because I like to use older civs rather than ones that have passed away in more recent times.
Lolz, I'm Jamaican, but not a rasta.
Thor Macklin
Warlord
So anyone gonna submit the finalized list?
Eh, the phonecians really aren't as.... militaristic as the Carthaginians, and
do you know of any FAMOUS phonecian leader? Though it does seem that
the phonecians would be a nice substitute for Sidon, Tyre, and others while
still covering carthage.
Eh, the phonecians really aren't as.... militaristic as the Carthaginians, and
do you know of any FAMOUS phonecian leader? Though it does seem that
the phonecians would be a nice substitute for Sidon, Tyre, and others while
still covering carthage.
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Meme Lord
i still say maori should be in there instead of majapahit. indonesia is kind of close to siam on a world map.
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Meme Lord
a few buildings because why not:
carthage: cothon: replaces harbor, gets base harbor's effects and +1 gold from water tiles worked by this city and maybe no maintenance
ethiopia: amba: replaces courthouse, base courthouse's effect plus 2 culture
zulu: ikhanda: replaces barracks (or armory, military academy) +30 experience for land units instead of the base buildings' 15
carthage: cothon: replaces harbor, gets base harbor's effects and +1 gold from water tiles worked by this city and maybe no maintenance
ethiopia: amba: replaces courthouse, base courthouse's effect plus 2 culture
zulu: ikhanda: replaces barracks (or armory, military academy) +30 experience for land units instead of the base buildings' 15
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Ethiopia:
0.5
Culture from 2 
Citizens in all Cities. During a 
Golden Age, City growth is increased by 33%.
UU:
Oromo Warrior for Musketman
One of the first gunpowder units in the game. May be only trained by Ethiopia. The Oromo Warrior receives a major bonus when fighting in friendly territory (+50%), making it a very useful unit for defense unlike the Musketman which it replaces.
UB:
Stele for Monument
May be only built by Ethiopia. The Stele grants +1 additional Culture and reduces Culture cost for tile acquirement by -25% in the City where it is built in, unlike the Monument which it replaces.
Balanced?
0.5
Culture from 2 Citizens in all Cities. During a Golden Age, City growth is increased by 33%.UU:
Oromo Warrior for Musketman
One of the first gunpowder units in the game. May be only trained by Ethiopia. The Oromo Warrior receives a major bonus when fighting in friendly territory (+50%), making it a very useful unit for defense unlike the Musketman which it replaces.
UB:
Stele for Monument
May be only built by Ethiopia. The Stele grants +1 additional
Culture and reduces Culture cost for tile acquirement by -25% in the City where it is built in, unlike the Monument which it replaces.Balanced?
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
I was set to think the Oromo Warrior was overpowered, but I think that works. The Stele seems OK, although I worry if it hurts the Krepost (that's the target for balancing).
Now the tough part is the unique ability. The key is to make sure it isn't better than the French, since that seems to be the point it would be pegged to. Make sure we're counting everything (Musketeer or Oromo Warrior. Early, better monument or very good Infantry unit). But it'll come down to whether or not one is overwhelmingly better for culture than the other. It seems to be the anti-French, since it encourages vertical growth. The end result isn't bad. A city would need to be size four to break even with France. I think it should be capped, though, at some tech, but I could be wrong.
Any idea for a name for the Ethiopian ability?
Now the tough part is the unique ability. The key is to make sure it isn't better than the French, since that seems to be the point it would be pegged to. Make sure we're counting everything (Musketeer or Oromo Warrior. Early, better monument or very good Infantry unit). But it'll come down to whether or not one is overwhelmingly better for culture than the other. It seems to be the anti-French, since it encourages vertical growth. The end result isn't bad. A city would need to be size four to break even with France. I think it should be capped, though, at some tech, but I could be wrong.
Any idea for a name for the Ethiopian ability?
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I too were worried if it was going to be at par with France, but France fits more for a wide empire and Ethiopia a tall one.
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
That might be because none of us know enough about Ethiopian history to think of something better. We've presumed Firaxis did some decent research with Civ4 and are incorporating that.
Yeah, then again vertical culture is even more powerful because SP cost won't rise. But it seems to be small enough to balance that out. The question is if there should be a tech that gets rid of the power (like Steam Power is for France). Maybe not because you won't really notice the effect until size 4, so it isn't an instant thing. But that's a tough call.
No the question is if anyone with knowledge of Ethiopian history can think of a name for the ability. I'm thinking something to do with religion, but I'm really not sure.
Yeah, then again vertical culture is even more powerful because SP cost won't rise. But it seems to be small enough to balance that out. The question is if there should be a tech that gets rid of the power (like Steam Power is for France). Maybe not because you won't really notice the effect until size 4, so it isn't an instant thing. But that's a tough call.
No the question is if anyone with knowledge of Ethiopian history can think of a name for the ability. I'm thinking something to do with religion, but I'm really not sure.
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Meme Lord
up until the polynesians came with their statues, i was thinking of a combat bonus in friendly territory, since it was one of the only parts of africa to hold out on being colonized for so long
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Well, the Oromo can have that and work out decently.
Save_Ferris
Admiring Myself
Rename Ethiopia "Nubia" and have an earlier UU.
