Democracy Game Challenge 1: Spoilers

[730195]

Status report: 1540 AD
I don't see anyone else doing this kind of report. Also, I see many of you talking about numberless tries on the save in few hours... If you guys think I should stop these reports, please let me know...

In fairness to the others, I think I'm the one doing the numberless tries in a few hours. I do enjoy reading your reports as well as others, but I have not yet formed a mental image of how your play enabled you to do better than I did. I'm still hoping to figure that out. ;-)

 

[donsig]

I don't see anyone else doing this kind of report. Also, I see many of you talking about numberless tries on the save in few hours... If you guys think I should stop these reports, please let me know...

Your reports are interesting, keep them coming. I didn't do any detailed reports because I lost pretty badly - wasn't a story worth hearing, really.

 

[dutchfire]

@fbelintani: I think most people got beaten so badly that they didn't want to talk about it a lot
on (probably) winning. I think you're the first to report of a win if you hurry a bit.

 

[FeedBack]

Thanks for the support, guys! I thought I was out of sync with you here.

I'll go on with the reports, then. Every other day I shall play a little. Late game is time consuming and my wife doesn't like me playing civ that much.

Maybe I'm the first, maybe not. I do think victory is a matter of time now. But something I need to say: Warlords 2.08 Prince is, indeed, MUCH harder than Vanilla 1.61 Prince.

 

[FeedBack]

A short update to 1560 AD. I was up in a SG last night!

Spoiler :

I discovered liberalism for the free religion civic. I grabbed steel with it. Now Bizmark will see loads and more loads of cannons against his 5 final cities.
I captured Berlin in the same turn of Anarchy and stopped playing there. Now it's time for a few settlers while researching astronomy to conquer the barb city and (probably) hit domination.
Stay tuned!

 

[fed1943]

I did win a game as Mongolia, but it is worthless for the proposed experience
and just a lucky victory:
Barbs founded a city close the iron and I seized it: game won.

Best regards,

 

[FeedBack]

Another update. This one is a little bigger: to 1670 AD

Spoiler :

I set research to Astronomy and began building some settlers, along with cannons. Well, after Cannons came in, everything was easier. Uh, but wait! Where are the cannons??? I can say it was a little late for them. I captured Bizmark last 5 cities with all my current forces. Only 1 cannon saw the fight (and was sacrificed). So, steel was not a good move.
In 1610 AD, Bizmark was dead and I started to colonize all the gaps of the continent. I was cruising with the science slider at 30 - 20 % (and making good progress with science) when 2 turns before I get astronomy, I went to see Mao. HE HAD ASTRONOMY! Damn, I thought I was way ahead gim. He still didn't have Paper. And that's why.
Now that he has astronomy, the barb islands are not safe anymore. And it was true. I saw some pink borders there in the end of the turnset.
Actually, it's now a matter of time. I'm building some galleons and filling them with garrisons and settlers for the barb city to speed the process. I'm also claiming every land tile (including some useless ice ones) in my continent to reach domination. I think I have more than 50% of the land already. It should not be long now...

Does anyone know what gives you best score: domination or conquest?

 

[dutchfire]

Finishing faster usually gives you a higher score, therefor domination is probably the best thing to do.

 

[FeedBack]

Another update: to 1740 AD.

Spoiler :

Oh yeah.. Building settlers.... spamming missionaries... Boring... Boring.. Got Banking, revolted to Mercantilism and Free Speech... Boring... Boring... I finally built a galleon and went for the barb city.... Boring... Got another galleon with a settler... Route to the barb island... Boring.... Took the barb city garrisoned by two WARRIORS... Boring...
Suddenly:



! Finally, all those useless cities paid off.

The demographics:



I never understood that GNP... I can never leave last place on it. Maybe I'm too used to use merchants to support my economy...

And last, but not least:



Good, uh? Well, that was by far my greatest score ever in Vanilla, but it's not accurate, once I stop playing Vanilla at Chieftain level and moved into Warlords. I liked to play Vanilla again. It was, say, different. No Medic III unit, no Trebs, desperate need for metal, no UB's... You have to show more skills on the warfare without these helps.

Good to play this. If you have another long-time solo play like this, I'll join in. The only thing I cannot do is multiplayer/Pbem.

 

[dutchfire]

We've got our first winner! 1740 AD, 48883 is now the result to beat.

About the GNP, it doesn't count gold from merchants, shrines and several other things, and isn't accurate.

 

[donsig]

Nice game fbelintani!

Anyone still playing this beast? Time to consider another single player challenge?

 

[dutchfire]

I haven't heard from robboo yet. And I've only seen 1 post by DaveShack, I don't know if he has stopped playing this.

About the next challenge, I'd like to make one. Would you like a game like this, from the start, or would you like a scenario-like game (less focus on building cities and research, more focus on warmongering)?

 

[730195]

Another update: to 1740 AD.

FB, would you consider uploading a save you consider decisive? I'd like to compare some of my games to yours at around the same time to see what the major differences are. TIA.

 

[730195]

I haven't heard from robboo yet. And I've only seen 1 post by DaveShack, I don't know if he has stopped playing this.

About the next challenge, I'd like to make one. Would you like a game like this, from the start, or would you like a scenario-like game (less focus on building cities and research, more focus on warmongering)?

Although I'm unlikely to be in the running for the prize, I'd welcome a new game. I'd also like to see a few (intermediate) saves when folks are done to see what they did that was better than what I did.

I'm not clear on what a "scenario-like" game would entail. Could you say more?

 

[FeedBack]

FB, would you consider uploading a save you consider decisive? I'd like to compare some of my games to yours at around the same time to see what the major differences are. TIA.

Actually, I thought the game was a cruise to the finish line. I don't think I made any "magic", nor game-breaking, moves. Maybe I just had luck on the beginning.
I have some saves, of course. I'd rather you tell me what save you need and I can post it to you in.... about 10 hours from now.

 

[dutchfire]

I'm not clear on what a "scenario-like" game would entail. Could you say more?

I was thinking along the lines of making you start with a lot of Keshiks and other troops and letting you fight and raze towards a specific objective or something like that. I'm always open for suggestions though .

 

[Falcon02]

I was thinking along the lines of making you start with a lot of Keshiks and other troops and letting you fight and raze towards a specific objective or something like that. I'm always open for suggestions though .

Could do a Mongolian invasion of China type thing.... but at the same time... don't want to make it too complex.... at least, we might do 1 or 2 games like this one while you work on a China invasion one...

 

[730195]

I have some saves, of course. I'd rather you tell me what save you need and I can post it to you in.... about 10 hours from now.

Thanks. How about something around year zero?

 

[FeedBack]

Thanks. How about something around year zero?

You're lucky, my letter-less friend!
I have the AD-0001 save.
Take a look!

 

[DaveShack]

I'm still playing. Finally got to the point where Napolean declared on me, and saved since it was something 3am that day. Haven't started back up yet.

No reason another challenge can't follow before this one finishes.