Department of Geeks & Numbers

I'm new to that spreadsheet thing, tubs; care to brief me about the colors?
 
White should be 1st, yellow 2nd, blue 3rd and red 4th. They're in the first post except orange was replaced by blue.

Edit: I'll just add that they mean our position in the ranks :)
 
haha I guess that someone has lost a town. That can only mean in-fighting in the other continent. unless someone decided to abandon a city :hmm:
 
Tubby Rower said:
haha I guess that someone has lost a town. That can only mean in-fighting in the other continent. unless someone decided to abandon a city :hmm:
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Should we alert MIA to this information to ask Donut how this could be possible?
 
Volcano's another (really unlikely) possibility. Why they would bother settling next to a volcano, I don't know...

I think it's most likely that there be wars a brewin' on the other continent.

Should we let MIA know? I don't see any reason too, but I don't think it could hurt anything.

Should we have them question Donuts? I don't think so. We probably shouldn't let them know how much info we have. The important thing is that they lost the city.
 
Whomp said:
Should we alert MIA to this information to ask Donut how this could be possible?
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Do this. It proves we are wizards and therefore useful allies.
 
IroquoisPlisken said:
Should we let MIA know? I don't see any reason too, but I don't think it could hurt anything.

Should we have them question Donuts? I don't think so. We probably shouldn't let them know how much info we have. The important thing is that they lost the city.
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If Donut doesn't have any military techs it could very possibily be Donuts who lost a city.

I think it makes an even stronger case to trade for writing with Donut so they can get some military techs(their UU for sure). If it was TNT wouldn't it reflect in their team score too? As well, if Donut doesn't want to trade writing then it tells us it wasn't them that lost a city.
 
After giving this a little more thought it occurred to me that it would be possible that we've been tied for the lead all along, but there's a secondary tie-breaker rule that has kept us on the second place. Could be something to do with population or explored area for example. We appear to have gotten from 4th place to 2nd earlier between turns 22 and 23 without expanding our territory. Just another possibility.
 
I like the idea of asking MIA what is happening on the other continent and letting them know what we can deduce (just not how) as the possibilities: warfare, volcano, encroachment. Strengthens our hand more than just a little and it lets them know we have the strength.
 
DaveShack said:
Homer will need an extension of up to 24 hours beyond the normal time.
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Does Donut have their hands full? :hmm:
 
I have no idea how you guys pull these numbers out and I'm a numbers geek (6 sigma green belt at work) Well done. :thumbsup:
 
I didn't notice this until I was updating the spreadsheet. Team D'nut joined a settler into their capital!!!! Impending doom, or sheer stupidity? :hmm:

RE: Bug's confusion. Look at the land area. We just jumped to first and their is no way to do that other than either us gaining tiles or whoever was first losing tiles. The former didn't happen, so it must have been the latter.
 
I pulled the score out of the save and no significant changes. I don't think that the scores are updated until after our turn anyway. So next turn whoever's slope decreases then that's who lost the city ;)
 
Tubby Rower said:
I didn't notice this until I was updating the spreadsheet. Team D'nut joined a settler into their capital!!!! Impending doom, or sheer stupidity? :hmm:
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I'm not a number geek, but from the sheet, I'd say it was TNT who did it. :)

So they're definately at war with Donuts, and are either focusing on research/cash or production. The latter would be my guess.

Edit: Or they just joined some workers. :crazyeye:. Again, reasons are probably same as above.
 
So if we happen to meet TNT with our dinghy, then do we make nice or express our displeasure?

Or do we continue to play them against each other?
 
I see no reason why we would not greet TNT with cautious optimism. We have no capability physically to take a stand on either side.
 
Expressing displeasure doesn't make sense to me at this point - we can't do anything directly. Mapmaking is still a-ways away.

I'm all for supporting the Nuts, tech and cash are the only thing we could funnel to them at this point.

Bleed TNT if they are making war already. Let's face it, one Immortal would wreck havoc on our little empire, if they found the nuts it wouldn't take much to knock them off and have a continent all to your lonesome. Until the Great Grape Fleet gets up and running that is.
 
I'm not so sure about helping Nuts. They could be very dangerous in later game.

Maybe we can let TNT capture them, and keep Nuts as a pet civ. :D
 
Well actually we are in the best position here. MIA will actually "help" the nutters. We have plausible deniability later when this comes out.
 
Someone just pointed out to me that it was TNT not the D'nuts that joined the settler (or a few workers) into their capital. :hmm: veery interesting

EDIT:: just saw pentium's comments above too.
 
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