Department of General Musings

[soul_warrior]

good idea, harriet.
ill start a thread called "Department of Alien Affairs"
we can post contact details there.

 

[Tubby Rower]

I don't think that d'nuts have occupied the TNT city. And the score decrease in TNT isn't as significant as I expected. So that leads me to ask this question......


What are the different ways that a team can lose a tile of their territory?

1. loss of a city via conquest
2. loss of a city via volcano
3. cultural expansion of another civ that encroaches on your territory
4. any other ideas???

 

[soul_warrior]

can it possibly be a pop point lost?
disease by flood plain and barbarians come to mind here.

 

[Tubby Rower]

no because our land area increased in rank from 2 to 1.

Land area = # of tiles in cultural borders x 100

Could it have been MIA??

 

[Tubby Rower]

just checked. In a conversation last night with MIA. They said that their land area was 3800 for turns 33, 34, & 35. 3rd until turn 35 and then they bumped up to 2nd.

So that's a loss of 45-38=7 tiles at least. That's a whole city taken away from a civ on the other continent!!!

 

[IroquoisPlisken]

If you want ALL possibilities, maybe someone accidentally clicked Abandon city? Or perhaps, there was sabotage, and someone did it on purpose. That would explain the 48 hour time extension request by Donuts.

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

build settler to relocate city?

 

[Tubby Rower]

Is there any other possibilities besides war.....

IroP suggested one thing.

What else could cause a trade of at least 7 tiles for 2-3 pop?

All of this has happened to TNT. D'nut has really only just been jerks to MIA and delayed their turn. TnT is the focal point. But we only can get 3rd hand info right now. WE have to use our noodles to make up the whole lasagna.

 

[Daghdha]

How the heck can Nuts have caused TNT any intentional harm with those techs and that settler program? Have they walked up to TNT with 3 warriors and just kicked their blue butt?

 

[Tubby Rower]

forgot to mention that we got a nice lawn added to our palace

 

[Daghdha]

Very good. I'll just tidy up a bit

 

[soul_warrior]

nice set of whells, dagh
i guess MIA is appropriately missing?

 

[gmaharriet]

Dagh, that's hysterical!!!

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

speechless

 

[Own]

Took me a couple hours, but I finally got it

 

[Daghdha]

37 sent to MIA

I advise all to please hold the save while we work out the current ruling.

I suggest that the brilliant legalists in the various teams coin out a new rule here for FUTURE (My bold, his caps.) reference, instead of seeking to pin Team TNT on the rule we did not break.
A petty defamation campaign it is to reduce our diplomatic options, now, come with a constructive proposal in place of defamation on future rules for city naming.

It seems more and more likely that TNT is up to something in the lines of the Tubs/Whomp-theory (good thinking Idiots ). What I'm asking myself is "why is Nuts so quiet about this in the main thread about renaming"?. It's just us and MIA questioning this. Therefore I suspect the Nutters might be in on it. Isn't it true that Nuts gained at the same time that TNT lost. Could they have gifted Nana to the Nuts? And if so, will Nuts do the same with Springfield? Is that the reason they have spawned settlers from their capitals so early? I suggesst we keep a close eye on this to see if something similar (but reversed) happens, i.e. TNT gain->Nuts lose. If that be the case we can suspect they have an almost unhealthy close relation and one that has been established veeeeery early in the game. We can also expect to spot an Iro city along the N coast of opposite continent even if they, prolly, started down S. Igor's Hope should be assigned to sort that out.
If they co-op on this neither will lose much so it's quite possible.

 

[Own]

I guess there's no more logical place to post this, but as asked in the MTDG main forum, why did TNT jump their palace this early?

 

[Kickbooti]

Kissers:

I think I'd watch it in the main threads. It's probably enough for them to know we know they jumped without contact.

We still don't have a good read on the situation on the other continent and we should keep our options open.

Make the inquiry/protest, then let the admins do their job.

 

[Bede]

Gentlemen, and the one lady we know about,

I'm losing track here of what is going on and sense that some negotiation with MIA resulted in the protests to the admins regarding the renaming of a relocated city. Is that the case? If so, good.

I have one little problem however, no where in our threads is there any other than hints and winks about all this. That makes it tough for those of us who have not participated in the IM discussions to make sense of what's happening. It may not be a bad idea to put up an archive thread for posting these conversations.

So if someone could fill in the Old Monk he would appreciate it.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I'll have to agree with Mr Booti here: we've yelled our miscontent, they are aware of it now. That's all we need.

As has been discussed yesterday night (fri) over msn, with a few other idiots, keeping our jaws barking would eventually turn the "anger momentum" against us, leading to more awkward, tougher relationships in the future. We've had our protests against (IMHO which they deserved), but this ought to be enough if we don't want to compromise the relationships with the 2 other factions.

Still, I think our protest, if a bit overstretched, has made more good than bad. Let's just keep it at that and avoid mistakes.