Desert wheat tiles

[kjades]

Hi, plain and simple...
...is it worth to settle a city with relying on some desert wheat tiles? like, those 1 . I guess the best they can get to, once improved at max, is 3 , am I right? does it make them a good "investment"? or it's better to settle a city with less desert wheat tiles, but with access to more fish tiles?
I am stritctly speaking in terms of future development of the population.

Thx peepz

 

[civ54lyfe]

if we're talking no river around, or the most attractive thing about the spot is the fish tiles, then you might as well settle on the wheat. but tbh the future isn't looking too bright for that city if this is the case. or unless you have a lot of gold to rush some things.

 

[Arachnofiend]

This is a coastal city, right? The fish will be better than the wheat will ever be just by putting up a Lighthouse, and it only gets better with a Fishing Boat and Seaport.

 

[Acken]

Hi, plain and simple...
...is it worth to settle a city with relying on some desert wheat tiles? like, those 1 . I guess the best they can get to, once improved at max, is 3 , am I right? does it make them a good "investment"? or it's better to settle a city with less desert wheat tiles, but with access to more fish tiles?
I am stritctly speaking in terms of future development of the population.

Thx peepz

Generally speaking no those wheat desert tiles are not worth it. There must be another reason to settle there like fish for example which will be ten times better.
Only reason you might not ignore that kind of tiles is if you get Petra.

 

[kjades]

Ok, just to be clear...what d'you think?

Spoiler :

hebergeur d image

 

[Buccaneer]

Settle on coast to get work boats out. I think the problem will not be the food but the lack of production.

 

[Magma_Dragoon]

Desert wheat with fresh water and granary is 4 food, desert wheat is grassland

 

[civ54lyfe]

right well, pic says a lot. you had made it sound like this place was a desert wasteland out of Road Warrior or something lol.

but since it has a ton of lux and hammers all over the place, and the Oasis powering the Wheat, i would be wanting to settle on that Plains on the upper right of the Stone tile.

ed: well looking at it again, maybe you can snag max of 4 Fish if you settle on the hill northwards and just say to hell with the Wheat. you still get the Ivory, Silver, and now 2 Stones instead of 1 Stone (Stone on that island). tough call. i'd go for the extra Fish and Stone if i had a lot of start-up money for Fishing Boats.

 

[FeiLing]

The hill for 5 fish doesn't work. No lighthouse = all fish are useless. I'd say on the silver for an extra fish or on the hill closest to the mountain for machu picchu and neuschwanstein eventually (if you can't build it elsewhere). Might also go to the flat desert next to the mountain for observatory which eventually gives you the iron too. Any way, remember that without tradition you'll never be able to get many 3rd ring tiles and even with trad it takes quite some time and this is not exactly gonna be the type of city where you happily throw lots of cash out to buy 3rd ring food tiles.

 

[civ54lyfe]

good call. Hill 2 southeast still has 2 Fish and still gets all the mainland stuff. i said northwards Hill b/c i thought his Scout was sitting on a Hill but on 2nd glance it looks like it's just Desert. yeah the situation looks dicey regardless, if that's the 2nd city. looks very far from the capitol, really $$ to connect.

 

[Deau]

I'd settle where your scout is for 4 fish. Trade horses assuming they're not from a CS to whatever ally you have made to rush-buy Lighthouse and make this a self sufficient city very fast. The only painful part is that 3 fish will be 3rd ring and require buying tiles so it's a good gold sink.

At the same time, since you have another coastal city, it is a great mean to have fast growing tall cities that can work many specialists all game along.

 

[Lord Katana]

personally i probably settle on the silver. Your problem here is production, not food. Also since you have a stone it's worth not settling on plains. that way you can build the stoneworks for additional hammers and happy. Also in the third ring you get the hill back you settled on, and since you are settling on the silver you instantly have +4 happy (or a extra trade resource)

 

[Asderfut]

I'd settle where your scout is. That way, you get both stones and you can build a stoneworks (can't build stoneworks on plains).

 

[kb27787]

Settle at your scout; fish > everything else (5 food 2 production 2 gold fully upgraded)
4 fish trumps everything; seeing as it is your 3rd city and not your capitol, petra may not be an option so the wheat isn't that good. early on you can even work the silver for production and send it food ships. Once the city has access to all the fish it'll be easy growing it.

 

[FeiLing]

Stones in desert and tundra are no better than a regular mountain (actually they're worse before you actually got the stoneworks). Unless he had Stone Circles as Pantheon.

 

[dragonxxx]

I'd settle on the hill between the silver and the wheat in that situation. You gain both food and ahmmers + basic defence. That city is too far from the rest it seems, that not that good.