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Did they make this game harder?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by contempted, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. contempted

    contempted Chieftain

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    I'm not a very serious player, I usually just play on warlord so that I can win easily. I've been playing this way for years. I recently got a new computer (windows 10). Now I can't seem to win anymore and the games are way more difficult. Does anyone know why this would be? And now that I'm here, is it a bad idea to automate all workers and to build what the game recommends? Thats pretty much how I play, I try to get a military advantage and just play in semi-perpetual war. Now, when I go to war, the other civs get too far ahead in science. I need help!!!
     
  2. lymond

    lymond Rise Up! (like a burning Phoenix) Hall of Fame Staff

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    Well, not sure if you used to play BTS years ago or vanilla. Regardless, I'd say BTS is probably easier than its predecessor, which were at least very hard on the highest difficulties. Maybe you were playing the newer versions of Civ (5 and/or 6) and got used to the simplicity of those games. I don't know. Warlord is a very easy level. I know you are not serious, but just learning a few key things can really change your game. Also, playing on Warlord is not doing you much good learning the game.

    ...and...


    Extremely bad idea. Honestly, if you are going to automate workers you might as well not play the game. Just a bit more attention to detail early on will pay of immensely. IV is very much about the snowball effect. Automated worker do very stupid stuff...just look at the AI workers. Worker management is key aspect of the game. (note that later in the game you can start setting workers to auto-trade route and stuff, but early on you need to manage them and chop forests)

    Well, getting a military advantage is often a strong play in this game, but it is how you go about doing it. I suspect that, in your case, when you focus on "military advantage" you are really going down bad tech paths and not trading techs effectively (although on Warlord level tech trading "should not" do you much good since you "should" clobber the AI in teching)

    Again, you've already stated you automate workers, which is egregiously bad, and by virtue I assume you really never learned much about the game...just going through the motions. I know you say you are not a serious player, but it doesn't take much to improve your game a heck of a lot more than Warlord, and just overall be more successful. One of the great joys I had over the years with this game was getting better and moving up difficulties, eventually winning on Deity.

    If you want to learn, spend a bit more time over and Strategy & Tips - play one of the Noble Club games, and get advice...or post your own:

    https://forums.civfanatics.com/forums/civ4-strategy-tips.155/
     
  3. contempted

    contempted Chieftain

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    Thanks, your answer is very helpful. although I'm stiff baffled by why I can;t win all of a sudden(its bts, btw) I know, you;re right. I never even look at the city screens, I have no idea what it all means. I just go for swordsman, catapult,and if I'm lucky, calvarly. and try to wipe out three civs. Lately, I can barely even keep up with the competition even though I'm doing the exact same things I always did. But yes, maybe I'll try that helpful link you provided. thanks.
     
  4. lymond

    lymond Rise Up! (like a burning Phoenix) Hall of Fame Staff

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    Good.

    I recommend at least playing Noble level moving forward. Noble is considered "normal" or "neutral" level. AIs get no bonuses, so are essentially on par with the human. Below Noble, like Warlord level, AIs get maluses and the human bonuses, so it really not helping you much to learn. You could even go with Prince level, which only sees a very minor uptick to the AI. Either way, it helps to be forced a bit out of your comfort zone, so that you try putting more focus and effort into your game.

    Of course, read up a bit over in S&T and look at some of the game in progress. Some YT videos help as well. Not a wealth of YT vids, but there are a few good ones out their mainly on higher levels. Look for Lain over in S&T..he should have some linked in his sig. He plays Deity, which is almost like a different game in term of strategy, but there are basics you can learn from him.

    I'd focus more on empire management and getting off to a good start for now. How to best use workers, tech priorities, great people, economy, civics, etc.
     

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