Didn't found a religion. Keep going?

[lithium97]

I didn't produce faith fast enough, and ended up not being able to found a religion. Is there any point in continiuing while at this disadvantage? Immortal game, standard speed and number of AI's.

On the plus side, I'm in the lead in wonders by a wide margin so maybe that will even things out.

 

[choaspes]

Not having founder benefits isn't the end of the world, you can still spread a religion and pick up the follower benefits, it really isn't make or break in most scenarios. That said, I hope you aren't Byzantium, that would be a little depressing.

 

[NotSure]

Ya, the AI will spread their religions to you. You can use your faith points for follower buildings like Pagodas or Cathedrals or you can buy Great Scientists (or other great people) from your cities that adopt any religion. The only downside is you don't benefit from founder beliefs like Tithe. I don't think that's worth throwing the game away. It's hard to impossible to found religions on the harder difficulties.

 

[jahsoldier]

I don't think religion's essential, to be honest the bonuses are a bit underwhelming a lot of the time. The pantheon beliefs tend to be the strongest of the lot, so just make sure you get one. I think you always get a pantheon belief eventually as long as you're generating some faith.

 

[lithium97]

thanks all. i guess i'll give it a go

 

[hobbsyoyo]

Don't forget you can actually cherry-pick which religion you want to follow. You can produce religious units like preachers and inquisitors in cities that have a religion. They will spread only the religion of the city they are from or supress all religions that aren't the religion of where they are from.

You can use this to spread the religion of your choice (with it's accompanying benefits) if several different ones have been spread your city. I agree with everyone else, you shouldn't give up the game.

 

[PhilBowles]

Not having founder benefits isn't the end of the world, you can still spread a religion and pick up the follower benefits, it really isn't make or break in most scenarios. That said, I hope you aren't Byzantium, that would be a little depressing.

I missed a religion in my current game, and while Christian Mosques (and a friendly-since-the-start Austria due to shared religion) are moderately useful, I was a little disappointed to lose my pantheon in the process.

 

[SurplusInk]

Not the end of the world. Continue on. Religion isn't essential though the bonuses are quite handy at times.

 

[bonafide11]

I think you always get a pantheon belief eventually as long as you're generating some faith.

That's not true, is it?

 

[draaibaar]

You shouldn't chase a religion at Immortal unless you can found your first or second city near a natural wonder giving you faith points (& pick that pantheon which gives you 4 extra).

 

[ggmoyang]

I think you always get a pantheon belief eventually as long as you're generating some faith.

That's not true, is it?

No, you can't found pantheon after someone enhanced religion.

 

[nefloyd]

No, you can't found pantheon after someone enhanced religion.

You can UP TO the limit of religions, once one has been enhanced.

example: 5 religion limit

-6 other pantheons founded, nobody has enhanced a religion. You could still get a pantheon

-3 other pantheons founded, someone founded and enhanced a religion. Two more people can still found a pantheon

-5 other pantheons founded, someone founded and enhanced a religion. You and anyone else who hasn't gotten a pantheon yet are SOL

 

[Dunduks]

No, you can't found pantheon after someone enhanced religion.

OK, players maybe cannot but NPC can found pantheon even after I had my religion enhanced.

 

[Babri]

example: 5 religion limit

-3 other pantheons founded, someone founded and enhanced a religion. Two more people can still found a pantheon

I don't think so. If someone has enhanced religion, then only way to get a pantheon belief is to found urself a religion & then select a pantheon belief along with a founder & follower belief.

 

[wpfossil]

You can still win the game, but if you just got G&K you're missing out on a cool new feature so you might want to start a new game.

 

[blackcatatonic]

I've founded a religion in every game so far, so personally I'd keep going for the sake of the challenge. As others have pointed out, if you can hijack others' religions and make their benefits work for you, it's not a total loss.

 

[Light Cleric]

You shouldn't chase a religion at Immortal unless you can found your first or second city near a natural wonder giving you faith points (& pick that pantheon which gives you 4 extra).

Not entirely true, a religion is actually quite doable on Immortal as well; I regularly see a religion available at like turn +100. In my last game as Monty I couldn't meet any religious CS or find faith wonders because I was sandwiched and DoWed between France and Greece(Hoplites and companion cavs hurt ) and I still almost got a religion just from Shrines on like ~125.

Deity is where it gets ridiculous

To answer the OP, yes, keep on going, you can do fine without it.

 

[AfterShafter]

Only time I would even consider quitting if I don't found a religion is if I'm playing a religion oriented Civ and that was the game I wanted to play. Playing some of my preferred generalist Civs - France, Egypt, Austria, etc - I prefer to found a religion but I don't lose sleep when I don't. Playing some of my civs - Rome, the Iroquois - I actively expect to not found a religion.

Not getting a religion isn't the end of the world. People above have largely explained why.

 

[Zanarkin]

I've played fine without religion and even purposely avoid it some games as you can spit out a wonder while the AI players are all producing religious buildings. Removing that laundry list of religious needs, you can better focus your production and research on other things early on while all the AIs are racing to found their religion.

 

[Tachii]

Dropped like 3 game with the Byzantium since I couldn't use the UA.

And I'd say founding your religion for a cultural victory is extremely handy. If you rely on the AI he might not have any culture benefits in their religion, and it might take ages for them to get here, especially if you're isolated. Actually, if you are relatively isolated, you should really try to found your religion. On Immortal I have yet to take some other dude's religion, although to be fair I used to reroll if I fail at Stonehenge. Now I just don't care and keep playing, I also won't even go for Stonehenge if my capital production suck and just go for Pyramids instead.

But say, if your neighbour is Haile or Pacal or Boudicca, you might as well just wait for them to spread it to you. The founder benefit of your own religion will not be as effective anyways, and that leaves you hammers to make something else.