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Discussion in 'Community Patch Project' started by Recursive, Feb 14, 2020.

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  1. CppMaster

    CppMaster Emperor

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    Yeah, that is strange. @Recursive IMHO a civ shouldn't want to pass this resolution if the civ controls less than average of natural wonders. What do you think?
     
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  2. Recursive

    Recursive Covets Lands That You Currently Own Moderator

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    What if it would help an ally that's opposed to the civ's enemy? That's the issue with the World Congress..you can't just think about yourself. :)
     
    Recursive, Jul 3, 2020
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  3. CppMaster

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    Oh ok. I thought that AIs like this resolution no matter what.
     
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  4. Recursive

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    I'm not sure, I still need to take a detailed look at voting logic. My point is just that it isn't quite that simple!
     
    Recursive, Jul 3, 2020
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  5. JamesNinelives

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    Yeah. I assume there's also 'does it help my enemy/enemies?' or something like that.
     
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  6. Recursive

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    I looked at the logic for this and it's quite simplistic - it just checks how many World/Natural Wonders the player has.

    Code:
        // Cultural Heritage Sites
   if (pProposal->GetEffects()->iCulturePerWonder != 0)
   {
       int iNumWonders = GetPlayer()->GetNumWonders();
       int iTempScore = -50;
       if (iNumWonders > 0)
       {
           int iFactor = bSeekingCultureVictory ? 5 : 2;
           iTempScore += iNumWonders * iFactor;
       }
       iScore += iTempScore;
       iScore = MIN(70, iScore);
   }
   // Natural Heritage Sites
   if (pProposal->GetEffects()->iCulturePerNaturalWonder != 0)
   {
       int iNumNaturalWonders = GetPlayer()->GetNumNaturalWondersInOwnedPlots();
       int iTempScore = -35;
       if (iNumNaturalWonders > 0)
       {
           int iFactor = bSeekingCultureVictory ? 20 : 15;
#if defined(MOD_BALANCE_CORE)
           if (MOD_BALANCE_CORE) {
               iFactor = bSeekingCultureVictory ? 50 : 30;
           }
#endif
           iTempScore += iNumNaturalWonders * iFactor;
       }
       iScore += iTempScore;
       iScore = MIN(70, iScore);
   }
     
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  7. CppMaster

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    Ok, so AI doesn't look at others for this proposal. It only counts how many World and Natural Wonders it has. Therefore AI could vote for it even if it would get the least from that, making its situation relatively worse. I would vote otherwise in that case.
     
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  8. Carloshooter

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    I think you're taking this too literally, usually i play with comunitas with all (8)civs in one big continent and another unexplored continent, so there are a lot of natural wonders sometimes we get to Modern Era and there are still 1/2 Natural Wonders to settle, what I mean is, it would be dumb if just because the AI doesn't have a NaturalW when the voting occurs doesn't mean it's smart to vote against it...
    If there are no more possible NaturalW to settle than it's only logical for the AI to vote against that if it doens't have any. That's my take on it :undecide:

    EDIT: I had a few ortographic mistakes ahah
     
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  9. JamesNinelives

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    Seems a bit of a niche situation. In games I've played if you have a natural wonder it's usually in your interest to vote for that resolution. Having more than one is kinda rare.
     
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    What do you mean I take this code too literally? Should I read between the lines? It's not exactly a poem :D
    I'm not saying that AI should vote against that. AI shouldn't vote for it when it would benefit the least from that resolution, no? (It could vote for it just to improve relations with others, but it's not in the code that was pasted here)
    It's not rare at all at that stage, when some civs conquer territories. Also not only Natural Wonders count, but World Wonders too and disparity here is almost always.
     
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  11. Recursive

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    I'll revise WC logic as part of my interaction rework.
     
    Recursive, Jul 3, 2020
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    Natural Wonders and World Wonders belong to different congress resolutions though?

    Looks like Recursive is looking into it anyway :).
     
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    Ok, you're right! My bad. Still, I don't consider having more than 1 Natural Wonder as a rare case.
     
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    Tend to agree. Theoretically the logic should overweight Civs who are rivals and/or who are winning the game.

    I always thought it was silly that everyone always loved the Natural Wonder resolution — although arguably there's a place for people-pleaser resolutions too, I guess.
     
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    If that's the intention then it's doing the job
     
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    I very much agree. Things like arts agreements and scholars in residence tend to be good for garnering (and bostlering) weaker allies :).
     
    JamesNinelives, Jul 4, 2020
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    I thought you were talking about something else not the code ahah (sorry). The way you wrote it(or I read it) I understood that you wanted to say that they "needed" to vote against. I totally agree with you, they should not vote in favour of something that they would not benefit in any way, unless their vote is bought of course :thumbsup:
     
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  18. wobuffet

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    I think @CppMaster 's point is that if your yields increase by (say) 1% and every other player's benefits by 5%, then you don't actually "benefit" in the sense that Civ is a game where only one player can win.
     
    wobuffet, Jul 4, 2020
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    But if one of those civs that benefits a lot is your ally, then that would also change things. It seems even a fairly simple proposal is more complicated than it seems :crazyeye:.
     
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    Yeah, but does AI consider it? It's not evident from this code.
     
    CppMaster, Jul 5, 2020
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