how to deal with Donut.
bawhomp: All that's left on the tree will be currency, poly and construction.
fe3333au: nothing big
bawhomp: gp or gpt
fe3333au: Lit
fe3333au: gold is gp for me
fe3333au: *gold
bawhomp: lit will finish by before we finish repub.
fe3333au: yes
fe3333au: I see what you mean
bawhomp: so those would be the last techs before a new age
We discuss the problems of getting masonry
fe3333au: First stage ... is tell them TNT will not talk to you
bawhomp: they'll like that
fe3333au: and then I will talk to our team ... maybe they will say just trade it with them
fe3333au: there are voices who dislike them as I do
bawhomp: I can see
bawhomp: It's tough being so close to them.
fe3333au: Either way ... we are in go slow with them
bawhomp: I think if they win this thing they'll start something on you and try to get is in on it.
bawhomp: Then we both pound them!
fe3333au: You could strategize with them ... and see what happens ... but don't agree to anything
bawhomp: of course
bawhomp: see what their thoughts are...
fe3333au: They mentioned to you that they had a lead on Masionry
fe3333au: you ash who
fe3333au: well actually you would know ...
fe3333au: cos TNT is more than silent with them
bawhomp: lol
bawhomp: We'll tell them masonry has become too expensive.
bawhomp: not sure why
bawhomp: TNT won't talk and you guys are impossible
fe3333au: Masonry essential to survival
fe3333au: LOL just realised that we are rubbing it in by building pyramids
bawhomp: zactly
fe3333au: slows we are angry
fe3333au: *shows
bawhomp: ok so i'll let them know we can't make a deal. tnt is non communicatitve and mia is asking too much
fe3333au: What will that mean to KISS though if TNT get Masonry
fe3333au: Nuts
fe3333au: what would your gp value be?
bawhomp: tnt has masonry
fe3333au: mistake
fe3333au: BUT
Fe breaks it down
fe3333au: Stage one ... TNT don't talk
fe3333au: Stage 2 ... discuss with Nuts other options
fe3333au: Stage 3 ... both Nuts and KISS approach us for the tech
fe3333au: because we are virtually advertising we have it ... and you are knocking on our door to see if there is a sale
fe3333au: Stage 4 ... different prices
fe3333au: KISS price cheaper
fe3333au: by 2gp
fe3333au: So Nut = X+2gp
fe3333au: KISS = X
fe3333au: What should X be?
bawhomp: i'm thinking they won't go for a hbr for masonry deal as is. GP will definitely not work for them.
fe3333au: what value for both?
bawhomp: they'd want us to give masonry plus gold.
bawhomp: for hbr
fe3333au: **** computer crashed Explorer
fe3333au: what is the values for HBR and MAsonry?
bawhomp: i'd have to look but hbr is 2nd level and masonry is level 1 and researched by 2 so cheaper.
fe3333au: I see
fe3333au: so probaly we should not try the cash thing yet
fe3333au: maybe for another thing
bawhomp: no it would be an insult kinda
fe3333au: so you just say TNT are silent
fe3333au: and MIA will wait for Nuts
I break it down
bawhomp: 1 TNT silent
bawhomp: 2. we are checking with mia buuuttt....
bawhomp: see if they talk bad about you
bawhomp: 3. No deals.
bawhomp: 4. KISS will just wait and research republic to the best bidder
bawhomp: you of course
fe3333au: 2 ... MIA said want more than HBR
fe3333au: no
bawhomp: we have CoL and you don't but we're not giving it for masonry.
fe3333au: If We said we are interested in trade ... will taht effect Greens in the long run
bawhomp: if they won't research with us then what do we need them for?
bawhomp: then it's probably ok to say they're our best partner
bawhomp: unless they do some research for us.
bawhomp: We put republic out for the best deal. You were it.
fe3333au: yes
bawhomp: Done
fe3333au: I'm confused
Recap
bawhomp: We can't trade with Donut.
fe3333au: 1. MIA and KISS is the main big deal
bawhomp: They have nothing to offer us.
bawhomp: We have nothing but republic on them.
fe3333au: 2. All others will be used by us to squeeze deals which benefit the Greens
bawhomp: Right but TNT is the only who needs our techs.
fe3333au: yes
fe3333au: But later we could slip you something ... which you could trade on
bawhomp: CoL for?
bawhomp: that's all we are up on you.
Auctioning Republic
fe3333au: So as far as Nuts are concerned ... you will be auctioning off Republic when you have it
bawhomp: and will discuss whatever they can come up with.
fe3333au: yes
fe3333au: but you are open and say you will go for the best deal and best interest to your team
fe3333au: they will appreciate your honestry and openness
bawhomp: Right and we feel we are getting ripped off on any masonry deal.
bawhomp: so no dice
fe3333au: I'm still asleep ... so I'm thinking I'm getting ahead of myself and confusing things ... do you feel this?
bawhomp: It's complex.
bawhomp: The easiest is if they'd just agree and go maths, currency and be done with it.
fe3333au: yes ... but that changes when we get it from TNT
bawhomp: it's not happening
bawhomp: no one can gets masonry
fe3333au: Maths
fe3333au: so the deal with Nuts is this
fe3333au: Masonry for HBR
fe3333au: Maths for MM
fe3333au: Currancy for Lit
bawhomp: that's the most ideal but after we tell them no deal cuz we couldn't get it
bawhomp: masonry that is
fe3333au: yes
fe3333au: and they are slow researchers
bawhomp: then they'll be more prone to deal with you.
bawhomp: once we tell them we can't help
bawhomp: and are holding out for best deal on republic.
fe3333au: k ... so put the cash extortion into a box that may be opened at a later date
Later on research...
bawhomp: Yeah they can research construction at that point
bawhomp: that's gold
bawhomp: plenty of it while one of us turns off research.
fe3333au: yeah
bawhomp: lots of cash that way.
bawhomp: only one of us would need to research at that point.
bawhomp: since it won't help to speed it up
fe3333au: prolly you as commercial is our trait
bawhomp: Yep
bawhomp: and we can deal poly for construction easier prolly too
fe3333au: and in republic it will be nice flow of gold
bawhomp: definitely a big econ boost
fe3333au: Can't wait for republic ... churn out units and unleash our generals
fe3333au: then the continent becomes a land grab he he he
fe3333au: with a couple of prebuilt housing estates
bawhomp: The two of them will be soooo gassed from fighting
fe3333au: yep
fe3333au: I love it
bawhomp: let's hope they're continuing
bawhomp: and not trying to fake us out
bawhomp: but tnt is too far behind for that.
fe3333au: Well the only tech trade source is us ... so we will discuss ramifications of specific trade
bawhomp: let us tell them we can't do anything first
fe3333au: yes first step is ... no luck with TNT
bawhomp: and MIA is holding out for something.
bawhomp: Pyramids!
fe3333au: and we can time there responce time to contact us ;-)
fe3333au: *their
Finale
bawhomp: ok I should pm robi
fe3333au: k
fe3333au: I will just post this chat ... the other was too confusing ... and we have covered everything in this one
bawhomp: me too irongold style
fe3333au: