Diplomatic Victory Elimination Thread

[lotrmith]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [11]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [23]
6. Cyrus/Persia [14]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [8] 11 - 3 War. I firmly believe it hurts far more than it helps this particular VC (if it helps at all).
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24] 23 + 1 Also a Suzerain beast.
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [6]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [26]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [24]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[leandrombraz]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [11]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [23]
6. Cyrus/Persia [14]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [5] (8-3) - Mongolia has a small advantage in Diplomatic. Creating trading posts immediately means that Mongolia's trade routes can reach distant allies earlier, speeding up the Alliance progress towards tier 3. That is too little to matter though and ultimately it weights more the fact that Mongolia is military focused.
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [6]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [26]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25] (24+1) - Canada is the second Civ that can get extra favors per turn and it get a nice boost with double favors from emergencies. It suffers from the same design flaw that Sweden does but worse. You want your tourism to increase, so Canada will play Diplomatic like a cultural victory, risking a cultural win way before they can win Diplomatic. You should definitely disable cultural victory for this one.
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]


Another warmonger bites the dust. RIP Macedon.

 

[Beaver79]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [11]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [23]
6. Cyrus/Persia [14]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [5]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [3] = 6 - 3 Warmongers don't have to warmonger to the point that they pick up excessive grievances, but they can all found a religion and get the temple for +2 diplo points. Kongo is a cool unique civ to play but they are the worst civ to get a religious victory and as far as turn times go they are the worst at a diplo victory.
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27] = 26 + 1 Pericles or Tamar are probably the best civs at getting envoys. Tamar takes a lot of setup to get them though whereas Pericles only needs to build a half priced theater square.
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[kryat]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [8] (11-3) Wars of territorial expansion wins you no friends.
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [23]
6. Cyrus/Persia [14]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [5]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [3]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21] (20+1) Though I’ve never used it as such, Bannockburn is actually useful for a DV, since liberating cities grants a tremendous amount of favor all at once (I think it’s 100 favor per city liberated, and 300 for bringing players back to life). Bannockburn gets you to conquered lands about twice as fast. Scotland is also likely to be ahead technologically, giving them an edge in combat.
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Isengardtom]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [8]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [24] 23+1 15% production to well placed wonders and alliance bonus points. Lots of cash to get extra DF if needed
6. Cyrus/Persia [11] 14-3 one of the warmongers. Does not go well with a DV
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [5]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [3]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Xandinho]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [8]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [24]
6. Cyrus/Persia [11]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [2] 5-3. Its bonuses boil down to aggression, how can this be more appropriate for diplomatic victory than Kongo?
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [4] 3+1. Come on guys, even with the penalty of not being able to found a religion, there's no way it's less appropriate for diplomatic victory than warmongers.
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Datgingah]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [5] (8-3) War monger must go
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [24]
6. Cyrus/Persia [11]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [2]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14] (People are forgetting district rushing is really useful for gaining a religion, not just their warmonger abilities).
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [4]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [17]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21] (20+1) The biggest bonus here is they can more easily get a stone hedge religion with their worker rush, and rush the Mahabodhi temple as well with the same ability. Helps the early game diplo vic point rush. Apadana rush also can help with extra envoys the whole game. Extra good Mausoleum means a strong coastal city and potentially better great engineers as well for rushing late game high value wonders like Orszaghaz, Potata Palace, and Statue of Liberty. (After consideration, I might have undervalued China as a potentially very strong Religious victory civ).
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [25]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Francel]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [5]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [24]
6. Cyrus/Persia [11]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [2]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [4]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [14] 17-3 Like several others on here, they just don’t seem to have any edge in DV and they are also weak overall; I think Kongo is worse as they are the only ones who cannot build a wonder providing a guaranteed 10% DV; I am being diplomatic though and spreading points around
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [26] 25+1 In addition to Guaranteed favor, their combat edge at home somewhat frees up focus on military
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Lily_Lancer]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [5]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [24]
6. Cyrus/Persia [11]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3=2+1] Extra excess level do help and Mongol is better than most blank Civs.
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [1=4-3] This one is too bad. The only Civ which has a real disadvantage for a Diplo V.
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [14]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [26]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Kwami]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [5]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [24]
6. Cyrus/Persia [11]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [-2] No Temple! Sure, warmongers can be worse, but they don't have to be. Mvemba can never get those two points back.
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [14]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27] Free Diplomatic Favor from early on and lots of Diplomatic Favor later. Teddy can win more points just by outvoting everyone in the earlier congresses and he can fight back against the pile on later.
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Leucarum]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2] (5-3) There's a lot of civs that we can really just elkminate in a random order...
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25] Extra alliance points and faster wonders are good.
6. Cyrus/Persia [11]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [26]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [14]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20

 

[lotrmith]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8] 11 - 3 Incentivized surprise wars means lots of grievances.
7. Dido/Phoenicia [21]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27] Extra DF.
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [14]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20[/QUOTE]

 

[Weraptor]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22] (21+1) Insane gold generation and great reach across the map.
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [14]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [21]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17] (20-3) Some players may want to exploit the civ's bonuses to deliberately accelerate climate change. Also they tend to warmonger with their ships.

 

[enKage]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [14]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [11] 14-3 No abiilities help him. Not the top warmonger, so no diplomination. Trade bonus is hard to utilise, so not rich enough. No source of free favours
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22] 21+1 Can steal crucial wonders and great wall gives mass culture and gold to blitz through civic tree for earlier envoys and be nearly as rich as Poundmaker and Mansa to win competitions.
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [24]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]

 

[leandrombraz]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [3]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [24]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [11] (14-3) - Another Civ focused on combat. Using builders to speed up districts can help, which put the Aztecs in a better position compared to other warmongers but still, combat bonuses don't bring anything to the table that you actually need.
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [11]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [25] (24+1) - Bonus envoys is the second best bonus a Civ can have for diplomatic and Georgia ability is quite strong for that.
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]

 

[bengalryan9]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [eliminated] (3-3) Well sure, as a warmongerer you *could* avoid warring to the point you're building up excessive grievances... at which point you'd be better playing as literally anybody else with unique abilities/infrastructure that you can actually use.
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [25] (24+1) If you're *really* going to take the "diplomatic domination" approach, *this* is the guy you'd want. Levy city states to smash your enemies AND get free envoys for doing so.
26. Montezuma/Aztec [11]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20] Pretty much guaranteed a religion and a shot at Mahabodhi... but no upvotes yet?
32. Philip/Spain [11]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20] Is *literally* guaranteed a religion and a shot at Mahabodhi... but no upvotes yet?
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [25]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]

 

[BenitoChavez]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [25]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [11]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [11]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [21] = 20 + 1. Is *literally* guaranteed a religion and a shot at Mahabodhi and has no upvotes yet.
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [25]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [14] = 17 - 3. WARMONGER!
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]

 

[monstercat]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [25]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [11]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [11]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [21]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [26] (25 + 1) More envoys for Suzerainty = Easy Favour.
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [11] (14 - 3) Literally the first part of this thread is weeding out all the domination civs. Only has only 1 focus the entire game.
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]

 

[NullNullError]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [21] To win a diplomatic Victory you wanna take out civs to reduce the number of people voting against you without generating too much grievances. Eleanors ability is top notch in taking cities/killing civs without generating grievances.
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [25]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [11]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [11]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [21]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [26]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [11]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [5] Domination Abilities can still secure you a Diplomatic victory. Polluting the entire world will just remove your chances of getting any diplomatic favor. Especially as all her abilities are about polluting the world. One of the hardest civs to get a Diplomatic victory as all her abilities encourage her to pollute. Every single one. Victoria should've been first to get outted.
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]

 

[Weraptor]

2. Amanitore/Nubia [17]
3. Catherine/France [22]
4. Chandragupta/India [2]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [25]
6. Cyrus/Persia [8]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [22]
8. Eleanor/France [21]
9. Eleanor/England [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[22]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [8]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [17]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [22]
21. Kristina/Sweden [27]
22. Kupe/Maori [22]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [24]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [25]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [11]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [27]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [11]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [23] (22+1) Lots of food and gold with alliance benefits with no particular focus on any condition means the player is more likely to pursue a diplo victory.
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [22]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [21]
36. Saladin/Arabia [21]
37. Seondeok/Korea [15]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [21]
40. Tamar/Georgia [26]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [27]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [11]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [2] (5-3) Polluting and warmongering puts you at odds with diplo victory.
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [25]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [17]