Diplomatic Victory Elimination Thread

[Francel]

1. Alexander/Macedon [14]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [21]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [20]
21. Kristina/Sweden [22]
22. Kupe/Maori [20]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [20]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [22] 21+1 Guaranteed favor accelerating over the course of the game
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17] 20-3 Seems like a few civs are geared towards DV and the rest are more or less even in this regard; I docked Scythia because they have nothing going for them specific to diplomacy, they are tooled for war, and they spike early, well before DV is seemingly even possible.
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [14]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [18]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Ceydezed]

1. Alexander/Macedon [14]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [21]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [14] = 17-3. Not great to take away city states, and bad luck if he is in your game.
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [20]
21. Kristina/Sweden [22]
22. Kupe/Maori [21 = 20+1 - Early meet of many city states gives you more envoys and hence diplo favor relatively early. Faster movement on water helps your missionnary and apostles take advantage of the 1 envoy per conversion, and thats also different from what you usually play. Meeting other players early can help you be part of more aid request. Really good at diplo in my opinion.
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [20]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [22]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [14]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [18]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Loderingo]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11] 14-3 grievances decaying at twice the usual rate has to make him the least suitable for a diplo victory
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22] 21+1 - Surprisingly good for diplo victory (particularly on lower levels) thanks to the double alliance points. Also flooding immunity means you can crank up the disasters to level 4 for more aid requests
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [14]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [20]
21. Kristina/Sweden [22]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [20]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [22]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [14]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [18]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Weraptor]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [11] City-state warmongering and Coal Power Plant bias don't help.
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [17]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21] They are just decent. Can amass high culture, science, gold and get some Diplo Favor (and production) from liberating.
21. Kristina/Sweden [22]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [20]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [22]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [14]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [18]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Xandinho]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [11]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14] 17-3. We must agree that warmongering civilizations aren't appropriate for diplomatic victory, and this one is purely warmongering.
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [23] 22+1. The bonus of diplomatic favors when recruiting great people is really insane, I almost won a diplomatic victory trying to win a cultural victory.
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [20]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [22]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [14]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [18]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Beaver79]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [11]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [23]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17] = 20 - 3 He isn't any worse at diplo victory than 3/4 of the civs on this list but I just enjoy downvoting Pedro.
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [22]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [14]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [19] = 18 + 1 He can get slightly more diplo favor than a neutral civ. In theory.
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Xandinho]

Just noticed that Hojo Tokimune/Japan has disappeared from the list, the next poster please will include: 17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]

 

[NullNullError]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [8]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [20]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24] I've never personally achieved a Diplo victory as I always won the game in some other way before that. Sweden looks like it could at least have a chance at getting it?
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11] 14-3, Englands whole strategy is about polluting the world. The extra Coal and Iron for Railways, the extra stuff she gets for powering her districts and all the ships she gets.I think she is one of the worst polluter out there and definitly deserves to go as one of the first. Also cheaper Military engineer just spell out pollute the world and take advantage of the new sea level. Not very diplomatic. Germany on the other hand has one ability which interacts with this and isn't a core ability. Also Netherlands should take some heat as she has a similar ability. She also gets to plant more of her unique infrastructure.
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [19]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]


Edited to includ teddyMains points to boost Teddy and shrink Freddy

 

[TeddyMain]

It seems my votes were skipped.

Teddy/America should be at 23
Frederick/Germany should be at 8

 

[BenitoChavez]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [5] = 8 - 3. Encouraged to wage war. Encouraged to wage war vs city states. Encouraged to build coal power plants. That's like the unholy triple crown of anti-diplomacy.
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21] = 20 + 1. Probably not quite as good as Pericles due to less overall culture generation, but still can build the acropolis and get suzerainty of all the city states.
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [19]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Leucarum]

1. Alexander/Macedon [11]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [2] (5-3) Wants to pollute the world and eat city states. Not conducive to a diplo victory.
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [20] (19+1) The DF from tourism is a total red herring. If you are getting that much from it you're probably going to win a culture victory first. On the other hand the +100% DF from emergencies can really add up. Especially if the emergency is provoked against you - as you get a lot more for winning an emergency in that case. A game as evil Laurier where you deliberately try and become the target of as many emergencies as possible in order to rack up DF is fun albeit very niche. Though I would argue that any diplomatic victory strategy is very niche. In response to some other comments, arguably this approach works very well if you want to win a DV by partial domination since you'll be racking up a fair few emergencies against you that way, and you'll be well positioned to dominate some early congresses to build up a DV lead and make the end game less painful than pulling out your teeth.
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Eurritz]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8] (11-3) Alex is too much of a warmonger to be diplomatic. Also I don't like him.
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [2]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[20]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [21] (20+1) The bonus with tourism are great for DV, also he was one of few civs I won a DV.
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[bengalryan9]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
10. Frederick/Germany [eliminated] He's a jerk and will have the greivances to show for it.
11. Gandhi/India [20] Kind of feels like he should get some type of benefit to a diplomatic victory, doesn't it?
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21] (20+1) He encourages you to form allegiances, which results in more diplomatic favor.
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [17]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [21]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

I do think @Lily_Lancer raises an interesting point, even if it does run counter to how most of us are approaching this problem. Warmongering *could* help you win a diplomatic victory, because eliminating those who might vote against you would no longer have the chance to, eliminating the AI piling on to vote you down. I don't know that I really buy it - if you were going to eliminate all but one of your opponents, why wouldn't you just eliminate everyone? - but I get what he's saying.

 

[monstercat]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14] (17 - 3) I don't like Mapuche in general. They held up the Inca for an Xpac, their bonuses are all pretty 'meh' and have absolutely no direct, or even indirect bonuses towards a DV.
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [20]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [22]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [22] (21 + 1) There aren't many civs that get direct bonuses to DV through Diplo Favour/Alliances. The victory isn't helped by the World Congress being a complete mess. Overall, I feel confident for a DV with Canada. Emergencies and Send Aid are cheap sources of Favour without +100% bonus.
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[lotrmith]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [17]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [24]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [17] 20 - 3 Also likely to warmonger.
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [23] 22 + 1 Bonuses towards gaining Envoys leads to more Favor.
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [22]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

An important consideration for warmongering is that it penalizes Favor per Turn. All along the way, you have World Congress votes that, if your vote matches the winner, you get +1 DV point. The surest way to do this is to accumulate favor and dump it to sway a vote, whether you care about the resolution or not. If you put 5 votes for a City State Trade route resolution even though you have no CS trade routes and it wins, you get the +1 DV.

If you've been warmongering and lost all your Favor, you can only guess at what to vote for and have lost your ability to sway those votes.

 

[leandrombraz]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [14] (17-3) - India doesn't have any advantage that matter. Better missionaries make you a bit more effective on religious conversion quests but that's nothing compared to other civilizations advantages. Chandragrupta's ability is militar focused and even worse, encourage you to get grievances since War of Territorial expansion have higher grievances compared to other Casus Belli.
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [25] (24+1) - Strong early favors generation coming from great people. Open-Air Museum and auto-themed great works give you a strong culture, allowing you not only to unlock the civic tree points early and get better governments faster, but to use Carbon recapture earlier, in case you need it. You might win a cultural before you win diplomatic, which is a design flaw in some of the strong diplomatic Civs, so you might want to disable cultural victories to play more comfortably.
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [17]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [20]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [6].
40. Tamar/Georgia [23]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [22]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]


I didn't get a chance to vote on Frederick before he bit the dust, so I'll make a quick comment. He's far from an ideal Civ for Diplomatic but the Hansa still give him a strong advantage as far as building wonders goes. The extra combat against CS doesn't bother me, it's just this weird, useless ability that I wonder why it still there, Firaxis should totally replace it with something else. Germany is overhaul a good Civ that can do well just for having good cities, so it wouldn't be my first elimination. RIP Frederick.

 

[Lily_Lancer]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [14]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [25]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [17]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [17=20-3] Cannot build Mohabodhi, guarantee a loss of 2 point.
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [7=6+1] Shouldn't be that low. At least the top half among all Civs in Diplo Victory.
40. Tamar/Georgia [23]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [23]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [11]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [22]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [14]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [25]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [21]
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [17]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [17]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [20]
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [7]
40. Tamar/Georgia [23]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [24] 23+1 Favor from Wildcard slots is easy and potent
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8] 11-3 Her pollution proclivities hinder her Favor gains and Aid competition efforts
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [22]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[enKage]

1. Alexander/Macedon [8]
2. Amanitore/Nubia [20]
3. Catherine/France [21]
4. Chandragupta/India [14]
5. Cleopatra/Egypt [22]
6. Cyrus/Persia [17]
7. Dido/Phoenicia [20]
8. Eleanor/France [20]
9. Eleanor/England [17]
11. Gandhi/India [20]
12. Genghis Khan/Mongolia [14]
13. Gilgamesh/Sumeria[21]
14. Gitarja/Indonesia [20]
15. Gorgo/Greece [21]
16. Harald Hardrada/Norway [14]
17. Hojo Tokimune/Japan [20]
18. Jadwiga/Poland [20]
19. Jayavarman/Khmer [20]
20. John Curtain/Australia [21]
21. Kristina/Sweden [25]
22. Kupe/Maori [21]
23. Lautaro/Mapuche [14]
24. Mansa Musa/Mali [22] 21+1 You can easily gain diplo points with little favors, just by knowing which reolutions will likely go, but you cannot win aid requests without strong income. This is why I upvoted Cree first (as they have some more advantages over Mali) and Mali second. Mansa's mines make the job. After religious, i consider diplomatic or domination the most viable victory condition for Mali
25. Matthias Corvinus/Hungary [22]
26. Montezuma/Aztec [17]
27. Mvemba a Nzinga/Kongo [17]
28. Pachacuti/Inca [20]
29. Pedro/Brazil. [17]
30. Pericles/Greece [24]
31. Peter/Russia [20]
32. Philip/Spain [20]
33. Poundmaker/Cree [22]
34. Qin Shi Huang/China [20]
35. Robert the Bruce/Scotland [20]
36. Saladin/Arabia [20]
37. Seondeok/Korea [17] 20-3 even if you aim for diplo, you are already in space.
38. Suleiman/Ottomans [20]
39. Shaka/Zulu [7]
40. Tamar/Georgia [23]
41. Teddy Roosevelt/America [24]
42. Tomyris/Scythia [17]
43. Trajan/Rome [20]
44. Victoria/England [8]
45. Wilfrid Laurier/Canada [22]
46. Wilhemina/Netherlands [20]

 

[lotrmith]

1. [20]

Just to note it's early and not a huge deal but you last voted 15 hours ago.