[GS] Disable GDR

[funkymunky]

I wish it didn't have the silly name. That's the only part of it that irks me.

Might be cooler if they called them Jaegers instead, but perhaps that name is trademarked.

 

[Ferocitus]

Heh-heh, the bolded part gave me a good chuckle. I may have to steal that expression from you for a future post.

Steal it from here like everybody else!
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppliedPhlebotinum?from=Main.Handwavium

 

[CornPlanter]

1) According to the math, FTL travel is possible

Can I see it?

 

[Deggial]

Can I see it?

I think he is refering to wormholes (more commenly known as Einstein–Rosen bridges).
Those things don't violate the current physical model and it might be actually possible to travel through them - if they do exist.
And if you are a (sub)atomic particle, that is.
Other than those? Tough luck!

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Edit: And more on topic ...

Now that I have played a couple of games, I can savely say that I don't mind the GDR ... at all.

The AI is eager to build it, hence it doesn't pose an unfair advantage for the human player.

Actually, I like that it is so OP, as seeing it on the AI's side does cause all my alarm bell to ring and I have to try hard to wear it down as soon as possible so it can't run amok in my own (conventional) lines.

 

[agonistes]

I think he is refering to wormholes (more commenly known as Einstein–Rosen bridges).
Those things don't violate the current physical model and it might be actually possible to travel through them - if they do exist.
And if you are a (sub)atomic particle, that is.
Other than those? Tough luck!

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Edit: And more on topic ...

Now that I have played a couple of games, I can savely say that I don't mind the GDR ... at all.

The AI is eager to build it, hence it doesn't pose an unfair advantage for the human player.

Actually, I like that it is so OP, as seeing it on the AI's side does cause all my alarm bell to ring and I have to try hard to wear it down as soon as possible so it can't run amok in my own (conventional) lines.

I don't think wormholes are the only means. Negative mass drives are another example.

However, none of these are faster than light... they are shortcuts.

 

[Imaus]

faster than light travel is impossible, and I am firm in this belief. If interstellar travel was possible, we would have seen some evidence by now. And we still haven't figured out how the human body could withstand the rigors of space travel. Mars is a realistic goal, though probably a one way trip.

Mars is not in another solar system. You don't need FTL for it. Why are you bringing it up? Mars is the second closest planet to us. It is, even with our paltry chemical engines, months away, not years. It is nowhere near a 'one way trip', every flyby and landing mission and paper shows this. It is a question of putting our feet where our mouth is and doing it; which we've planned since Von Braun and Der MarsProject in the 50s, the Soviet Flybys, and every NASA generation.

 

[CornPlanter]

Mars is not in another solar system. You don't need FTL for it.

You don't need FTL to travel to another star system either. Traveling at close to speed of light you could cross the observable universe in a humans lifetime and spaceship in civ doesn't travel that far Meanwhile Alpha Centauri is 4.37 light years away so if you travel at 1/10 speed of light you get there in 43.7 years without taking into account how your speed affects the spacetime from your perspective (I am not sure the effect is noticeable enough at 1/10 speed of light). It's hardly possible with current technologies but it's realistic, something that people slowly work towards. As opposed to cartoonish GDR nobody needs. Entirely different things.

But I guess some people would also accept elvish archers in Civ I mean why not, we already have a spaceship that's not yet built in real life.

 

[Disgustipated]

Mars is not in another solar system. You don't need FTL for it. Why are you bringing it up? Mars is the second closest planet to us. It is, even with our paltry chemical engines, months away, not years. It is nowhere near a 'one way trip', every flyby and landing mission and paper shows this. It is a question of putting our feet where our mouth is and doing it; which we've planned since Von Braun and Der MarsProject in the 50s, the Soviet Flybys, and every NASA generation

Putting a robot on Mars and putting humans there and getting them back is another story. And I'm referring to exo planet project not mars habitation project. Look up articles in long term habitability in space, I read them. It doesn't look good.

 

[Balerune]

I think he is refering to wormholes (more commenly known as Einstein–Rosen bridges).
Those things don't violate the current physical model and it might be actually possible to travel through them - if they do exist.
And if you are a (sub)atomic particle, that is.
Other than those? Tough luck!

----

Edit: And more on topic ...

Now that I have played a couple of games, I can savely say that I don't mind the GDR ... at all.

The AI is eager to build it, hence it doesn't pose an unfair advantage for the human player.

Actually, I like that it is so OP, as seeing it on the AI's side does cause all my alarm bell to ring and I have to try hard to wear it down as soon as possible so it can't run amok in my own (conventional) lines.

I think they had GDR in CivV or Civ IV. Didn't like it then. Would rather have an invasion from Mars -- that could take the place of all the bio stuff. I came across this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sc...again-as-scientists-test-neutrino-result.html Does that relate to the wormhole stuff?

 

[Avenger237]

Prototype GDR?

 

[Disgustipated]

Doesn't look very giant.

 

[Disgustipated]

Ouch. For those wondering how good the counter is for GDR, an AI jet bomber did significant damage to my GDR. And I had all the techs researched. And yes the AI has been using airpower this game. Though it took them a while to get it going (I'm playing a score game with all victories disabled except score).

 

[Archon_Wing]

In my last playthrough there was only enough uranium to support 2 GDRs (3 uranium mines I think?) There wasn't any uranium anywhere else and couldn't build nukes.

Also encampments really slow the things down.

They probably shouldn't be affected by Oligarchic Legacy...