Discovering a religion just saved my.. umm flank.

[incubuspawn]

I started a new game and Played Japanese. And my starting position was ratherer interesting. Center of main continent, French ( with Napolean as leader ) to my north, Mongols to the east, egypt and Spain to the south. IF your thinking this spells trouble... you are correct. AS it turns out My area is also huge. I have a east and west coast, plus a whole lot of land, each border has three cities to an opponent. ( ouch ) No real solid chance for early military campaign here. So I mad a gun straight to samurai ( after being first to discover the alphabet... something I strongly encourage in any game )
AS it so happens I discoverd codes of Law first. Olny 1 turn later I get a great prophet from the stonehenge I built. Next thing I know everybody in the game except for 2 nations ( and the third isolated one ) converted to my religion. I have never seen such a dominated religion in anygame. As a result everybody loves, ( except greece who made the mistake of going to war wth a friend of mine lol ) and there isnt a single war on me that I cannot get someone to help me in. I thought I would share this with everyone. bad typing spelling and all
ps. to bad there isn't some political power with being the owner of a holy city I wonder if in an xpack they will expand on the religion aspect of the game.

 

[MrCynical]

Religions are extremely powerful, and I can't recall a civ with the same religion as me attacking me. Sounds like your religion spread very fast to convert all your neighbours. I presume the prophet went on the shrine for Confucianism (can't remember the name), which probably accounts for it. Did they have religions of their own? Presumably Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism have already been founded.

 

[incubuspawn]

Religions are extremely powerful, and I can't recall a civ with the same religion as me attacking me. Sounds like your religion spread very fast to convert all your neighbours. I presume the prophet went on the shrine for Confucianism (can't remember the name), which probably accounts for it. Did they have religions of their own? Presumably Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism have already been founded.

NO I got lucky. Only Spain discovered one, and of coarse that is my most watched border. What happend here was just extreme luck in what would have otherwise been a disaster for decideing to expand fast lol. And yeah I used the prophet for the shrine. The holy city was also coastal, so it spreaded a lot faster. Even turned 2 civs that are not my neighbors.
I wonder if there is a way to make sure a religion is founded on a coast???? probably not. Shrine plus coastal holy city, is a rather powerful combo.

 

[petey]

Even if the holy city itself isn't on the coast, as long as it has a road or river to one that is, it can still get trade routes over the water. So as long as you're building roads between your cities, it doesn't matter where the holy city is.

 

[incubuspawn]

Even if the holy city itself isn't on the coast, as long as it has a road or river to one that is, it can still get trade routes over the water. So as long as you're building roads between your cities, it doesn't matter where the holy city is.

I dont know within a few turns Rome who was on the other side of Spain, converted, and spain never did, so there was no trickle afect. The roads and rivers would just reach neighbors, and then others may join by the trickle affect.

 

[petey]

I dont know within a few turns Rome who was on the other side of Spain, converted, and spain never did, so there was no trickle afect. The roads and rivers would just reach neighbors, and then others may join by the trickle affect.

If you can trade along the coast, it may have been that Rome was connected to your city through the trade route and Spanish cities weren't. Further away cities give better trade routes, so those are the ones that are assigned and Spain may have had routes to places a greater distance from them. Religion spreads easiest through these trade routes, so that may have had a greater effect than Spain's closeness to you did.

 

[incubuspawn]

If you can trade along the coast, it may have been that Rome was connected to your city through the trade route and Spanish cities weren't. Further away cities give better trade routes, so those are the ones that are assigned and Spain may have had routes to places a greater distance from them. Religion spreads easiest through these trade routes, so that may have had a greater effect than Spain's closeness to you did.

Ok now that makes sense. Either way I was fortunate enough in this game to have 5 civs almost immediately convert without me useing so myuch as one missionary lol. ( in fact I havent even allowed for open border trades untill then ) I just kicked Napoleans but for no better reason than he was the weakest neighbor I had, and I had the most to gain from his cities ( takeing him out gave me less borders to worry about. ) spain and I started to get along, and I am now in free religion, expecting the mongols to get brave at any momment. As son as I figure ut why MAli is somehow getting every single tecxh I get the second I get it for the last few hors of gameplay, Ill go in and finish the game

 

[Lord Chambers]

What difficulty are you playing on incubuspawn?

 

[incubuspawn]

What difficulty are you playing on incubuspawn?

noble. I beat this one with a space victory, I could have beaten it with a diplomacy , but I really wanted a movie for the first game I finished In civ 3 diplo had no movie. ( so I assumed ) It may have been a noble game, but it rrealy managed to throw more than one thing at me lol. Anyway I am much more familiar with civ 4 now and am now playing a monarch game with germany. Solved my Mali tech problem by putting his head on a stake lol

 

[wcil]

Yup, no diplo victory movie.

Conquest, Cultural, Domination & Space Race have one though.

 

[incubuspawn]

Yup, no diplo victory movie.

Conquest, Cultural, Domination & Space Race have one though.

hehe sounds like I made the right choice in which one to win with then lol. Not haveing some kind of movie reward at the end of a campaign in a game like Civ, just feels kinda like a let down lol.

 

[MSTK]

Religions are extremely powerful, and I can't recall a civ with the same religion as me attacking me. Sounds like your religion spread very fast to convert all your neighbours. I presume the prophet went on the shrine for Confucianism (can't remember the name), which probably accounts for it. Did they have religions of their own? Presumably Buddhism, Hinduism and Judaism have already been founded.

In a Noble game I played once, one of my neighbors whom I had converted to my religion declared war on me unprovoked. Probably because of our borders.

 

[GreenMonkey]

I did the same thing with a Confucianism rush on one game. I established my 2nd city far away from my capital, and ended up with 3-4 cities right in the middle of everyone else trying to claim the area.

By building roads and sending my confucian missionary out, the whole area ended up Confucian and almost all civs had it as their primary.

 

[CrackedCrystal]

I wonder if there is a way to make sure a religion is founded on a coast???? probably not. Shrine plus coastal holy city, is a rather powerful combo.

Not directly, but the holy city seems to be founded in cities that have not founded a religion, or have low culture. These are usually the last city you founded. So, plop the city down on the coast one turn before founding the religion. Its not a garentee, but I think it improves your odds.