Do you restart if stuck with a poor starting spot?

[Jantis]

I only restart the really bad locations.

At first I thought I couldn't even get out of the mountains in that last one; although I've seen some pictures of locations people've had like that.

That's pretty rough. At least you don't have to worry much about defense.

 

[ketalis]

I quit or continue based on the land around my starting city because I'm too lazy to check worldbuilder. Some starting places are just plain crap. It's kind of like poker. Ya gotta know when to Hold Em and know when to Fold Em! Like, imagine you were an ancient tribal leader and you looked around your land and you saw how horsehockey it was you'd be like Damn my civilization will never be able to compete with the more advanced civilizations we will surely encounter within the next several thousand years, and, realizing the futility of the situation, promptly commit seppuku.

 

[WetWarev7]

I restart if after a few turns of exploring I don't like what I see(too much desert, etc.), but I don't use World Builder to look.

 

[apdavis828]

Always... if i don't stone and marble nearby i usually restart... it's very hard to win culturally without them but my last game went well on noble and i never hard marble and i also had to attack someone to get coal since no one would trade it.

 

[abj9562]

Always... if i don't stone and marble nearby i usually restart... it's very hard to win culturally without them but my last game went well on noble and i never hard marble and i also had to attack someone to get coal since no one would trade it.

Stone and Marble. IMHO that is pretty lame and borders on outright cheating. Good grief given those 2 resources, Monarchy is almost a sure CV. Hmmm 50% reductrion for resources and if you do an industrious leader another 50% reduction combined with forges for another 25% reduction means building wonders in about 18.75% of normal time.

I understand restarting with bad locations but to always get a sure win . Oh well it is your time.

 

[Zhao]

Hmmmm... in my last multiplayer game I had no iron, copper or horses within my city radius or indeed within 2 expansion of said city radius. One enemy had iron, copper and horses, another had iron and copper and the final one had copper only. I managed to play them off against each other, build the Parthenon and get the culture boost -> one spot of iron in my city radius!! Went on to burn down all their cities

(was on one-city challenge)

 

[mutax2003]

That's pretty rough. At least you don't have to worry much about defense.

Hey, I want have that save for that game where you are totally blocked by mountains (kind of remind me of Incan start in 1000AD scenario). I wonder if I can build galley for my settler, so they can go out and stop being such isolationists.

 

[DaviddesJ]

Stone and Marble. IMHO that is pretty lame and borders on outright cheating. Good grief given those 2 resources, Monarchy is almost a sure CV. Hmmm 50% reductrion for resources and if you do an industrious leader another 50% reduction combined with forges for another 25% reduction means building wonders in about 18.75% of normal time.

That's not how it works. You get +100% production for the resource, +50% for the Industrious trait, +25% for the Forge, for a total of +175%. So you build 2.75 times faster than without any of those, or 36% of the what the build time would be if you had none (I hesitate to call that "normal", becuase usually you don't try to build most wonders unless you have the matching resource).

 

[Bain]

I only restart the really bad locations.

At first I thought I couldn't even get out of the mountains in that last one; although I've seen some pictures of locations people've had like that.

looks terribly like worldbuilder, theses screenshots

The ice one isn't even that bad, you have stone, sheep? and clam.

you even have a fresh water lake that will give you 3f 2c once you have a lighthouse, you could probably make madrid a SICK production city with Universal suffrage mass cottages.

 

[Arathorn]

Haven't yet. Learning to adapt my playstyle to what the map provides is one of the key, fun challenges of Civ4 for me. If I restarted until I got what I had last time...what's the point?

Arathorn

 

[Shadzy19]

In civ3 and c3c i restarted often , not once on CiV.

 

[Canuck Bill]

They best thing about Civ4 is working with what you have and trying to use you traits from your leader with what you have around you.

Restarting until you have the perfect start location for your strat is IMO cheating. It is sad to see 40% of the poll restarts. Why not just use the WB and create what you need.

I have never re-started, re-loaded or used the WB. I find games where I must make interesting decisions a lot more fun.

I always use a random map as well. I find exploring the world a blast as well.

 

[Sound+Vision]

The setting for giving jungles 1 shield/hammer is in a different file. Finding the file and location is an exercise left to the reader.

You sound like my math textbook...

Anyhoo, restarting your game because you have a bad start location is just lame. I've never gotten anything looking like the "city surrounded by mountains" so maybe that one i would restart... definitely not the ice one though. Your start location was sweet, and after that just move your next settlers south a bit and you'll find good land.
Looking at the worldbuilder is cheating. I haven't even looked into how you turn that on yet, 'cuz I'm afraid what it might make me do o_O

 

[Tholomeo]

I do restart often, especially in OCCs.
In an OCC it is critical to have a good spot

 

[apdavis828]

Stone and Marble. IMHO that is pretty lame and borders on outright cheating. Good grief given those 2 resources, Monarchy is almost a sure CV. Hmmm 50% reductrion for resources and if you do an industrious leader another 50% reduction combined with forges for another 25% reduction means building wonders in about 18.75% of normal time.

I understand restarting with bad locations but to always get a sure win . Oh well it is your time.

You are right... it is semi-cheating and my actions shame me however i won my first game with a cuturally victory and never had marble but i have decided not to restart anymore unless i'm on a tiny island or totally surrounded by peaks or ice. Of couse that means I might have to change my victory strategy and go for a non CV (my favorite) if i don't find marble early on. Of course that also makes it even more difficult since i usually pick traits that help with the culturally victory and no i don't use industrious... i prefer some combination of creative (free culture and quick border expansion to grab resources, spiritual for cheap temples since i usually try and found 3 or 4 religions for the obvious cultural benefits and philisophical for GP birth rate).

 

[Glinka]

I don't restart. One of the things I like best about the game is the challenge of facing different situations, and adapting to meet them successfully. If I find I've fallen too far behind, with one opponent grabbing half a dozen or more wonders, for example, right before me, then I'll quit and start again, because success at that point is rather hopeless. But it's great how you can turn a bad starting position to your advantage if you carefully plan.

 

[SuperBeaverInc.]

If it is terrible, I will restart. But otherwise, I will go with what the game gives me.

 

[alexti2]

You sound like my math textbook...

Nah... In the proper book it would be:
"There exists a file allowing to set jungles to 1 shield/hammer. Finding the file and location is an exercise left to the reader."

 

[Thalassicus]

I've never gotten anything looking like the "city surrounded by mountains" so maybe that one i would restart... definitely not the ice one though. Your start location was sweet, and after that just move your next settlers south a bit and you'll find good land.

Unfortunatly, Napoleon and Tokuguwa are to the southwest and southeast. It was like being smited from above

 

[loveandpolitics]

Nah, I like playing interesting games even if I end up losing. Sometimes it's fun to just try and survive untill 2050, because you started on a crappy island in the middle of the ocean. It's not about the challenge, it's about variation.