And so... i lost again.. at least i guess.. i left the game becouse i though it was too late to win, but i think i did much better than before. I lacked of experience at the end, i didn't know who was better to kill first, when and where.. i tryed and i managed to reach berlin but i couldn't negotiate peace and there were too many guys coming for me T_T Ottomans and obviously germans. Btw, i learned how to use the flying units, both offence and defence.. so at least i got some experience in return
Btw, i'm totally sure you could win the war at my place, so please feel free to comment and give me some more advice
Unfortunately i didn't absolutely know at the start about anti-air airplanes and carriers and stuff like that, so maybe i lost too many units during my first war and i SURELY chose the wrong path attacking Germans on the other continent.. so again, feel free to comment^^
I'm playing venice, i'm so much more confident with venice, so i gave it a try.
I hit factories at turn 174, btw, i miss coal... i check my CSs.. they miss coal.. i check other civ.. everyone miss coal.. so no industries for me. When siam got coal, he used it to build factories and he choose autocracy, so only 1 point for me to spend :\ I was the first damn siam!
I also missed iron... ando stone too.. -.- Bad luck i suppose.. I followed the advice of MadDjinn, not improving useless tiles to have more chances to get strategy stuff.. but i only managed to have 1 oil-.- My city was quite big, maybe 27 before attacking?? I'm not totally sure, but something about that..
Here's the first screen, i had ships on the right side, to help me during my first battle.
I got Sao Paulo quite easily. I had artillery, they don't. I also had education, they don't. So i think i have been quite fast, not so much maybe, but surely better then before^^
I keep going and i get rio and salvador.. (oh, the poor BRA got annihilated by china, right from the start..) Now they also have artillery and it takes more time..
I ask Siam to help me, we are both autocracy and friends since the start. He's going for a cultural victory and due to him, i have enough happiness.. Actually there are 3 orders, 2 freedom, 2 autocracy, but thanks to his tourism/culture (i still don't get how it works with dissidents..) we managed to beat the 3 orders and actually they have dissidents.. He also has a lot of delegates and i keep trying "world ideology: autocracy" at the congress but he puts just a few delegates and we never manage to pass the vote-.- We had enough to pass, but he likes to use just a couple-.-
Btw, i'm ready to make may way to sidney. (They got sindey from the start..)
Now i'm starting to think that maybe i'm a bit late.. I only have 1 research agreement running.
I had 1 with brazil too, but they died long time ago and i lost my money. I tried to be kind with german, france and ottomans, but they were allied and order, so they hate me. Celts were neutral, they randomly declared war at me but they couldn't cross the ocean, so after 30 turns they asked a truce sending me 120GPT O_O
We never met each other but they were so scared and offered a lot of money
My spy got cought at the first attempt to steal, so i had to move to other civs, but most of them were behind me and the only one with "cultural techs" were Siam.. So i had a lot of trouble stealing.. and with only 1 research agreement i had a disadvantage during the following wars.
I tryed to steal from the more advanced Civs later but my lvl 3 spy got killed at the first attempt.. I stole just a few techs with the others.. not enough to fill the gap.
So i start moving my ships to attack germany becouse they managed to build the first piece of the spaceship.
Napoleon got smashed at the start by Bismark, Celts too, so they aren't a problem at all. I can't remember well about ottomans but they also are far away from winning, so my choices are 2 (maybe i'm wrong, so feel free to explain me why would be better to attack someone other):
1) My only ally Siam (killim him = -15487231564 happiness)
2) Germany.
I chose Germany, but maybe killing the poor celts or napoleon would have been better, just to have a better units placement on the battlefield.. I lost too many units trying to land from the sea.. btw, this is my naval army. I never had a naval army, so i don't really know the right composition, but it seemed to be quite strong. I won all my naval fights..
Oh, i have non-upgraded ships becouse i just bought a city and they had those ships.. so, don't blame me for that
Ok, now i have a new tech, some sort of fast tank, can't remember the name sry
So, i make my way quite easily to sindney.
I thought i didn't have the time to properly scout the other continend, but i was wrong.. i lost many turns to organize, i should have scouted the other side.. There was a better place to start my attack :\
As I told you before, now they have a lot more tech. Now is the point where it starts hurting not having research agreement and good spyes.. I also took the speedup for the spyes with my first autocracy point, but my spy got killed at the very first try and the others were lvl 1..
Berlin is very close, but it's very hard to take care of his units.. Oh, i bought a CS to have a safe land to drop some units.. But it's just 3 or 4 tiles..
The war begins. Winning this war means winning the game, becouse the others have been beaten up during the game and they are far behind.. exept for siam... but i can't accept to lose a game on 1vs1, so i'm not worried
I have dortmund and essen, i'm taking munich too. I learned during this war how to use airplanes.. I had a lot focused on units and it's ok, it helps to take care of units, but later i started build them with +city damage. 33+33+heal and they are so much better, what it really hurts is taking a city (in my case at least..), and my new bombers are overpowered vs cities!
My battleships got Munich but now he starts hurting too much, so i decide to make peace claiming Frankfurt!
So i'll also have frankfurt a few turns later..
I forgot to take a screeshot of munuch and frankfurt, but it doesn't matter.. i had both..
Turn 337, as expected i had the time to launch another attack before their scientific victory.
They were only missing the last piece of the spaceship and i was waiting for the declaration to end........ Actually i have been lucky
I could declare war again, on the same turn he receved his last piece but apparenly it was too far from berlin and he wasn't able attach it to the spaceship
Btw, now i declare war. My bombers took care of berlin. I used 12 bombers, i killed the unit right between me and berlin and i got the city.. I managed to defend berlin for a few turns but ottomans also declared war at me.. oh and china too.. LOOOL they only had sidney and 3 units.. lol, i asked siam to help me, he killed those 3 units and he lost some, it was a good thing.. Maybe also France declared war on me.. Somewhere, somehow, they also decleared war on me, but i'm not totally sure it was at the end.. Btw, i have never fought them!
Oh i forgot to mention.. I also asked siam to attack germany, he was agree, i payed him but he NEVER crossed the ocean.. WTH, i payed him, he declared war, but he didn't cross the ocean, so they never fought...
Btw, again i forgot to take a screenshot, at the right of berlin there were at least 12/13 units.. both from Germany and Ottomans. I left the game becouse even beating them i still had to take care of Siam and he got so much advantage never fighting.. I hoped to let germans and ottomans killing some of his units but that re-tard never crossed the ocean-.-
He was waiting on the border-.- So at the end, he had so many units.. and he also had more tech than me.. I couldn't spend my money buying structures, i had to buy tons of units.. he didn't.. So he had a huge amount of units and also very very strong. I had no chances.. Taking too much to win the war, means that he wins before me by tourism and his units were too strong to be fast enough to take his capital.. (Capital = arts and writings = no more tourism)
Actually, thinking at the game and looking at the screenshots, i'm quite sure that I could have won.
Choosing a better location to start the attack to Germany.. And maybe losing the first point in autocracy, switching to order and killing siam.. I would have lost the speedbost for my spy, but it wasn't a problem. Since they all cought me spying i can't spy them anymore.. expecially if they are my new order allies.. so, the talent is wasted in any case.. And more, i only had lvl 1 spyes becouse the big guys got killed and a level 1 spy vs super firewalls and police stations can't do anything..
Btw, suggestions please?
Joshua, you are right when you say i need a little more of tactic experience from immortal. Science is very easy even to deity. Diplomacy is a piece of cake.. lol it really isn't a victory..
Tourism i never managed to win, but i think it's very very easy. I missed the airport the last time, so it tooked ages and i was forced to win by diplomacy, but i'm quite good living in peace and avoiding wars, so a tourism victory i think it's easy (i'm surely gonna try it after dominace
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Btw, i'm gonna stick on deity. I did much better than the last time, i keep improving superfast, so i guess the next try would the good one!
I obviously am not good at all to play, not nearly as good as you, but it seems that winning on deity it's quite easy.
I mean, i still am not good to play and if I win the next game, it means that deity is very easy...
Btw, still an amazing game ^^
