Emp.Napoleon
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Rik Meleet said:
I think we ahgve completly forgoten about that. I think we could just make it pernament.
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I think we ahgve completly forgoten about that. I think we could just make it pernament.
I don't want it to be permanent. I want the possibility to attack C3B without breaking a treaty.
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The next chat with C3B will be on FRIDAY at 21:00 GMT/14:00PDT/18:00 Brasilia time.
Sorry, but I could not make it sunday. I am trying to get the chats more regular, so that our European citizens can come too.
Sorry, but I could not make it sunday. I am trying to get the chats more regular, so that our European citizens can come too.
Emp.Napoleon
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Chat is starting soon, embassy #3.
Emp.Napoleon
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Tech Deal:
Curreny
For
Well
Liturature
We will end up oweing them a little bit of tech points, so it will be payable at another time. Also, this has not been 100% accsepted by C3B, but if we should support for it, it most likely will.
Curreny
For
Well
Liturature
We will end up oweing them a little bit of tech points, so it will be payable at another time. Also, this has not been 100% accsepted by C3B, but if we should support for it, it most likely will.
Emp.Napoleon
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the chat log:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so.. let starts?
EMP - CFC: sure
Master: Ok. Emp, I suggest a completed aliance. So, give your cities a left the game...
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: HAHAHAH
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: sure, we can make the uber alliance, and uber nation!
EMP - CFC: *an
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: well Emp, we dont finish the counter-proposal discussion, so we cant send a counter proposal now
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: the elections are consuming a lot of our time ?D
Thiago Dyna - Krasan:
EMP - CFC: o darn, I don't want to just drink tea
EMP - CFC: a lot, I see
Master: Yeah, Krasan try to go to my actual place
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but i have a cuple of questions to you, after that we can drink a tea
EMP - CFC: ok, shoot
Master: Oh, sorry guys, my english is terrible! (N)
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: not that terrible
Thiago Dyna - Krasan:
EMP - CFC: no problem, I can read bad english, I rarly myslef speak it good
Master: Is that why I will never try the Foreing Minister chair...
EMP - CFC: I wont watch your english if you don't watch mine
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: I will close my eyes
Master:
EMP - CFC:
Master: So...
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so Emp, how are going your anarchy?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: do you calm down the people?
Master: I presume, a little chaotic
EMP - CFC: we are done, Akots's compition had some "accsidents"
EMP - CFC: so he is king
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: good... king Akots, lol
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: accidents huh
EMP - CFC: yea rather sudden too
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: did you pay well for it?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master:
EMP - CFC: :-D
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so, you are now in a monarchy, how is your sages research?
EMP - CFC: it is going at an okay pace
EMP - CFC: we are reserching currency
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes, but how many turns for it?
EMP - CFC: 8-ish, it could change a little
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we are 2 turns for literature
EMP - CFC: good
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: after currency, what tech do you will research?
EMP - CFC: hmm
EMP - CFC: let me pop up a save, one moment
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: ok
Master: Waiting....
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: sorry, it takes a while, I am running a few to many things right now
Master: ....#&¨$&* carrier lost
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: no problem
EMP - CFC: the wheel or contruction
EMP - CFC: but that depends on what you wanna trade
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we already research the wheel
EMP - CFC: good, what do you want good for
EMP - CFC: *what do you want for it
Master: How about 1 million dollars?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master:
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: sorry, but most of our team uses the Euro
Master: HAHAHA
Master: No problem, you can convert
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we still thinking in a trade, but isnt oficial yet
EMP - CFC:
Master: Where is the cat?
EMP - CFC: well what are you all in the market for
EMP - CFC: she leave?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: like literature + The Wheel for currency
EMP - CFC: oooo
EMP - CFC: I really like that deal
EMP - CFC: a lot
EMP - CFC: I think that is a good idea
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: may i ask why?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: what about me?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: and no, you will not exchange me for techs
EMP - CFC: darn
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: LOL
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: no way mister
EMP - CFC: me and pegster would have liked that
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: yeah I bet
Master: But, I think that literature + the whell is more expensive than currency
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: but you got enough redheads over there
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: to keep you busy
EMP - CFC: we are a all guy team, any girl will do
EMP - CFC: lit. is a good tech, it allows to to reaserch more, and I need a wheel for my wheelbarrow
EMP - CFC: the wheel is just a another tech we need to go to the middle ages, that is whyt
EMP - CFC: and we need to see if ther are any horses around
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: ok
EMP - CFC: we want to out tech the other alliance if possable
Master: Where is everybody???
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: <<--- is right here
EMP - CFC: did they leave, or is krasan just making a really long message?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: and with this trade we will be equals, in tech value. in last trade we get 2 poits, and in this trade you will get that beck
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: not, just cheking some information
EMP - CFC:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we will be cientific equals for the next trades
EMP - CFC: good
Master: So, this is ok? The Whell + Literature X Currency + credit?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: you can put this to discuss in CFC forum?
EMP - CFC: X=for?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: including the credit
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes
EMP - CFC: ok
EMP - CFC: how much will we owe you
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: how much you can pay?
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: well, it is payable only in another tech deal
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we will discuss this idea in our forum too, and next week we can talk better about this trade
EMP - CFC: ok
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so emp, ... before the tea...
EMP - CFC:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: in our alliance, we have a pact to renegociate 10 turns before it expires
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: and it will be expires in turn 109, so the renegotiations starts in turn 99
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: probably in the next chat, right?
EMP - CFC: ok
EMP - CFC: wil do
EMP - CFC: do you all have a complet copy of the alliance I can barrow? I never took the time to build it up on my computer
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes, i can send it to you
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but you dont have it in your forum?
EMP - CFC: some where, but it is burried
Master: And in the turn 99 you will probably knows who is the new C3B president...
EMP - CFC: emperornapoloen@netscape.net
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: lol, does it look good for you?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: probably
EMP - CFC: good, I was worreid for a second that that other guy would win
Master: Who knows...
EMP - CFC:
*** Master signed on at Fri Oct 01 15:19:05 2004
Master: If the people discover my plains of steal the country...
Master: OPS! :|
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
EMP - CFC: :-D lol
EMP - CFC: now If only I can win the presidency...
Master: Are you the unique candidate?
EMP - CFC: unique? you mean speacial?
EMP - CFC: yes I am very speacial
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: only
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
EMP - CFC: lol ok
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: nope, only, just one candidate
EMP - CFC: no Akots is runnin
EMP - CFC: g
EMP - CFC: and he will win
EMP - CFC: but I wilol try my best, as I always do
Master: Yes, that is
EMP - CFC: I want to win, but it will not happen, I am chained to my desk here at the embassy
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master:
EMP - CFC: who is running for ME?
Master:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we have 3 candidates
Master: Everybody new for you
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but i think you dont know them: Jones, Saturno and Galahadba
EMP - CFC: I know saturno
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: realy?
EMP - CFC: yea, I meet him once, in a certain chat room
EMP - CFC: that was not working hint hint cat
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: sheesh
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: it was working fine for me
EMP - CFC: lol
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master: Yes. your Cat disclaim the candidature of ME
EMP - CFC: I heard :-(
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: wow, international repercussion
EMP - CFC: i see cat is happy
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: yep...
EMP - CFC: repercussion of her not running?
Master: Because she hate the two president candidates
EMP - CFC: yea, now I will be bord to death during chat
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: and the future army minister
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: nope... I hate to be manipulated
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: weeellll Who will like a tea?
EMP - CFC: :-D a smart cat I see
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: yep... and got claws too
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
EMP - CFC: I do!
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: but people are trying to export me
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: so... I might run away to Fanatica
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
EMP - CFC: LOL
Master: Two sugars, please...
EMP - CFC: you are welcome here, after all we got a good island
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: how much you pay for her?
EMP - CFC: :-D 60 gold, it is worth every ounce
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: hey, she is not a present!
Thiago Dyna - Krasan:
EMP - CFC: :-D lol
EMP - CFC: hmm, how about a party house on our vacation island
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: humm... sounds good
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: that could be nice
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: but they cannot sell me
EMP - CFC: LOL
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: hell they cannot even tame me
EMP - CFC:
Master: Why we talking about that? It is not a capture the princess game mode!
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: lmao
EMP - CFC: LOL
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
EMP - CFC: "capture the cat" that would be a good mod
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: LOL
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: ROFLMAO
Master: AH! Only with ICMB
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: oh no, the princess won't move
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: I'm not like that
EMP - CFC: lol
EMP - CFC:
Master: Well people, for the people hapiness, I need to go...
EMP - CFC: see you master
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: ok master
Master: Nice to meet you, EMP.
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: its anything else?
Master: Bye people!
EMP - CFC: see you
*** Master has left the conversation.
EMP - CFC: is that satern fellow still part of that other party?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: Saturn?
EMP - CFC: yea
*** master_of_civ@hotmail.com signed off at Fri Oct 01 15:35:59 2004
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: nope, but he dont wanna enter in our party too
EMP - CFC: so we are still at 2 parties?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes, for now
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but he is a independant candidate
The rest was just small talk.
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so.. let starts?
EMP - CFC: sure
Master: Ok. Emp, I suggest a completed aliance. So, give your cities a left the game...
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: HAHAHAH
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: sure, we can make the uber alliance, and uber nation!
EMP - CFC: *an
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: well Emp, we dont finish the counter-proposal discussion, so we cant send a counter proposal now
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: the elections are consuming a lot of our time ?D
Thiago Dyna - Krasan:
EMP - CFC: o darn, I don't want to just drink tea
EMP - CFC: a lot, I see
Master: Yeah, Krasan try to go to my actual place
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but i have a cuple of questions to you, after that we can drink a tea
EMP - CFC:
ok, shootMaster: Oh, sorry guys, my english is terrible! (N)
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: not that terrible
Thiago Dyna - Krasan:
EMP - CFC:
no problem, I can read bad english, I rarly myslef speak it good Master: Is that why I will never try the Foreing Minister chair...
EMP - CFC: I wont watch your english if you don't watch mine
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: I will close my eyes
Master:
EMP - CFC:
Master: So...
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so Emp, how are going your anarchy?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: do you calm down the people?
Master: I presume, a little chaotic
EMP - CFC:
we are done, Akots's compition had some "accsidents"EMP - CFC: so he is king
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: good... king Akots, lol
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: accidents huh
EMP - CFC:
yea rather sudden tooThe Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: did you pay well for it?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master:
EMP - CFC: :-D
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so, you are now in a monarchy, how is your sages research?
EMP - CFC: it is going at an okay pace
EMP - CFC: we are reserching currency
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes, but how many turns for it?
EMP - CFC: 8-ish, it could change a little
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we are 2 turns for literature
EMP - CFC: good
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: after currency, what tech do you will research?
EMP - CFC: hmm
EMP - CFC: let me pop up a save, one moment
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: ok
Master: Waiting....
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: sorry, it takes a while, I am running a few to many things right now
Master: ....#&¨$&* carrier lost
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: no problem
EMP - CFC: the wheel or contruction
EMP - CFC: but that depends on what you wanna trade
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we already research the wheel
EMP - CFC: good, what do you want good for
EMP - CFC: *what do you want for it
Master: How about 1 million dollars?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master:
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: sorry, but most of our team uses the Euro
Master: HAHAHA
Master: No problem, you can convert
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we still thinking in a trade, but isnt oficial yet
EMP - CFC:
Master: Where is the cat?
EMP - CFC: well what are you all in the market for
EMP - CFC: she leave?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: like literature + The Wheel for currency
EMP - CFC: oooo
EMP - CFC: I really like that deal
EMP - CFC: a lot
EMP - CFC: I think that is a good idea
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: may i ask why?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: what about me?
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: and no, you will not exchange me for techs
EMP - CFC: darn
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: LOL
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: no way mister
EMP - CFC: me and pegster would have liked that
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: yeah I bet
Master: But, I think that literature + the whell is more expensive than currency
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: but you got enough redheads over there
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: to keep you busy
EMP - CFC: we are a all guy team, any girl will do
EMP - CFC: lit. is a good tech, it allows to to reaserch more, and I need a wheel for my wheelbarrow
EMP - CFC: the wheel is just a another tech we need to go to the middle ages, that is whyt
EMP - CFC: and we need to see if ther are any horses around
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: ok
EMP - CFC: we want to out tech the other alliance if possable
Master: Where is everybody???
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: <<--- is right here
EMP - CFC: did they leave, or is krasan just making a really long message?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: and with this trade we will be equals, in tech value. in last trade we get 2 poits, and in this trade you will get that beck
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: not, just cheking some information
EMP - CFC:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we will be cientific equals for the next trades
EMP - CFC: good
Master: So, this is ok? The Whell + Literature X Currency + credit?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: you can put this to discuss in CFC forum?
EMP - CFC: X=for?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: including the credit
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes
EMP - CFC: ok
EMP - CFC: how much will we owe you
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: how much you can pay?
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: well, it is payable only in another tech deal
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we will discuss this idea in our forum too, and next week we can talk better about this trade
EMP - CFC: ok
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: so emp, ... before the tea...
EMP - CFC:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: in our alliance, we have a pact to renegociate 10 turns before it expires
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: and it will be expires in turn 109, so the renegotiations starts in turn 99
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: probably in the next chat, right?
EMP - CFC: ok
EMP - CFC: wil do
EMP - CFC: do you all have a complet copy of the alliance I can barrow? I never took the time to build it up on my computer
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes, i can send it to you
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but you dont have it in your forum?
EMP - CFC:
some where, but it is burried Master: And in the turn 99 you will probably knows who is the new C3B president...
EMP - CFC: emperornapoloen@netscape.net
EMP - CFC:
EMP - CFC: lol, does it look good for you?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: probably
EMP - CFC:
good, I was worreid for a second that that other guy would winMaster: Who knows...
EMP - CFC:
*** Master signed on at Fri Oct 01 15:19:05 2004
Master: If the people discover my plains of steal the country...
Master: OPS! :|
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
EMP - CFC: :-D lol
EMP - CFC: now If only I can win the presidency...
Master: Are you the unique candidate?
EMP - CFC: unique? you mean speacial
?EMP - CFC: yes I am very speacial
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: only
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
EMP - CFC: lol ok
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: nope, only, just one candidate
EMP - CFC: no Akots is runnin
EMP - CFC: g
EMP - CFC: and he will win
EMP - CFC:
but I wilol try my best, as I always doMaster: Yes, that is
EMP - CFC: I want to win, but it will not happen, I am chained to my desk here at the embassy
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master:
EMP - CFC: who is running for ME?
Master:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: we have 3 candidates
Master: Everybody new for you
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but i think you dont know them: Jones, Saturno and Galahadba
EMP - CFC: I know saturno
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: realy?
EMP - CFC: yea, I meet him once, in a certain chat room
EMP - CFC: that was not working
hint hint catThe Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: sheesh
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: it was working fine for me
EMP - CFC: lol
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
Master: Yes. your Cat disclaim the candidature of ME
EMP - CFC: I heard :-(
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do:
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: wow, international repercussion
EMP - CFC: i see cat is happy
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: yep...
EMP - CFC: repercussion of her not running?
Master: Because she hate the two president candidates
EMP - CFC: yea, now I will be bord to death during chat
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: and the future army minister
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: nope... I hate to be manipulated
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: weeellll Who will like a tea?
EMP - CFC: :-D a smart cat I see
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: yep... and got claws too
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
EMP - CFC: I do!
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: but people are trying to export me
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: so... I might run away to Fanatica
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
EMP - CFC: LOL
Master: Two sugars, please...
EMP - CFC: you are welcome here, after all we got a good island
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: how much you pay for her?
EMP - CFC: :-D 60 gold, it is worth every ounce
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: hey, she is not a present!
Thiago Dyna - Krasan:
EMP - CFC: :-D lol
EMP - CFC: hmm, how about a party house on our vacation island
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: humm... sounds good
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: that could be nice
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: LOL
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: but they cannot sell me
EMP - CFC: LOL
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: hell they cannot even tame me
EMP - CFC:
Master: Why we talking about that? It is not a capture the princess game mode!
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: lmao
EMP - CFC: LOL
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: lol
EMP - CFC: "capture the cat" that would be a good mod
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: LOL
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: ROFLMAO
Master: AH! Only with ICMB
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: oh no, the princess won't move
The Cat - We Got Nine Lives, yeah, We Do: I'm not like that
EMP - CFC: lol
EMP - CFC:
Master: Well people, for the people hapiness, I need to go...
EMP - CFC:
see you masterThiago Dyna - Krasan: ok master
Master: Nice to meet you, EMP.
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: its anything else?
Master: Bye people!
EMP - CFC: see you
*** Master has left the conversation.
EMP - CFC: is that satern fellow still part of that other party?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: Saturn?
EMP - CFC: yea
*** master_of_civ@hotmail.com signed off at Fri Oct 01 15:35:59 2004
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: nope, but he dont wanna enter in our party too
EMP - CFC: so we are still at 2 parties?
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: yes, for now
Thiago Dyna - Krasan: but he is a independant candidate
The rest was just small talk.
akots
Poet
Just to avoid confusion and misunderstanding about the techs trading. Either Krasan is completely ignorant or for some other reason but we made a deal with Joker in his presence and calculated all balances. The guy just likes to haggle a lot I guess. Anyhow, I still may be too naive by expecting C3B to stick to their word regarding negotiations. Alas, it might be futile. OK, here is the balance:
We gave to C3B before the negotiations (tech - cost):
Alphabet - 5
Pottery - 2 (starting)
Warrior Code - 3
Writing - 8
Math - 8
Total 26
C3B gave to us:
Bronze Working - 3 (starting)
Ceremonial Burial - 2
Iron Working - 6
Mysticism - 4
Polytheism - 12
Total 27
Difference of 1 can be ignored because it is due to the starting tech difference. Basically, we were even at this stage.
Then, it has been agreed that we pursue and trade to C3B:
Code of Laws - 12
Map Making - 10
Currency - 16
Total 38
C3B was aiming at:
Monarchy - 24
Wheel - 4
Total 28
They are now researching Literature which costs 10 and when we trade Lit for Currency, it would be even again.
Then, the fun starts. There are still 3 mandatory AA techs left:
Construction - 20
Philosophy - 6
Horseback Riding - 5
There is no way to make an even trade with these techs as you can see. The only way around is that we don't trade Literature from them. They research Construction and we research Philo + HBR. This puts them and us in the Middle Ages where they get their free tech. We can then research the Literature if we want by ourselves.
Resume: Don't trade for Literature, we are not even going to build any Libraries soon. Try to make them go for Construction and we pick Philosophy and HBR. Can even save some cash for upgrade of warriors in case of war.
Lets discuss this possibility and see how it goes with C3B. But IIRC it has been already discussed with Joker/Cat/Krasan for about 2 hours.
Edited: there is also an evil possibility to pick up Construction and make c3B dependent on our slow research rate to get in Middle Ages. We can run science at 40% and always say to them that we are still recovering from Anarchy.
We gave to C3B before the negotiations (tech - cost):
Alphabet - 5
Pottery - 2 (starting)
Warrior Code - 3
Writing - 8
Math - 8
Total 26
C3B gave to us:
Bronze Working - 3 (starting)
Ceremonial Burial - 2
Iron Working - 6
Mysticism - 4
Polytheism - 12
Total 27
Difference of 1 can be ignored because it is due to the starting tech difference. Basically, we were even at this stage.
Then, it has been agreed that we pursue and trade to C3B:
Code of Laws - 12
Map Making - 10
Currency - 16
Total 38
C3B was aiming at:
Monarchy - 24
Wheel - 4
Total 28
They are now researching Literature which costs 10 and when we trade Lit for Currency, it would be even again.
Then, the fun starts. There are still 3 mandatory AA techs left:
Construction - 20
Philosophy - 6
Horseback Riding - 5
There is no way to make an even trade with these techs as you can see. The only way around is that we don't trade Literature from them. They research Construction and we research Philo + HBR. This puts them and us in the Middle Ages where they get their free tech. We can then research the Literature if we want by ourselves.
Resume: Don't trade for Literature, we are not even going to build any Libraries soon. Try to make them go for Construction and we pick Philosophy and HBR. Can even save some cash for upgrade of warriors in case of war.
Lets discuss this possibility and see how it goes with C3B. But IIRC it has been already discussed with Joker/Cat/Krasan for about 2 hours.
Edited: there is also an evil possibility to pick up Construction and make c3B dependent on our slow research rate to get in Middle Ages. We can run science at 40% and always say to them that we are still recovering from Anarchy.
Emp.Napoleon
SUPER EMP!
akots said:Resume: Don't trade for Literature, we are not even going to build any Libraries soon. Try to make them go for Construction and we pick Philosophy and HBR. Can even save some cash for upgrade of warriors in case of war.
Lets discuss this possibility and see how it goes with C3B. But IIRC it has been already discussed with Joker/Cat/Krasan for about 2 hours.
Edited: there is also an evil possibility to pick up Construction and make c3B dependent on our slow research rate to get in Middle Ages. We can run science at 40% and always say to them that we are still recovering from Anarchy.
Sorry, but this is very confusing, could you just list a counter-proposal
Also we do not want to slow down the tech pace just to make them dependant on us. If we lose the tech lead we can lose the game.
akots
Poet
Proposal: Don't take Lit, we don't need it. Ask them to research Construction while we pick Philo and HBR. If they disagree, pick Construction and research it slowly. We can thus accumulate cash. In the case of war cash is more useful than Feudalism or any other tech.
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EMP: well I do have some business
Johannes: well, we can talk now.
Johannes: I tried the last move now.
Johannes: But I do think that she is "reverse-psychology" proof.
EMP: :-D Reverse-Psychology, I love that stuff!
EMP: well anyways
Johannes: I hate it!
EMP:
Johannes: there is just two friends that can do that efficiently against me.
Johannes: and they really know how!
Johannes:
EMP:
EMP: well I must insist, A LOT, that you guys make a counter-proposal for borders
Johannes: it's being discussed.
Johannes: Have you already received the game back?
EMP: I mean as in "I really want it" for the chat
Johannes: ops...
Johannes:
EMP:
Johannes: Then, I need to look how it will go.
EMP: the last turn I see is the info on turn 97, but I do not run the save process
Johannes: Election time usually means "nothing else is done in the country" here...
Johannes: Especially because with the full change in the govern now, we will have to meet and discuss.
Johannes: But you are aware that people is 99% certainly not accept the actual border, no?
EMP: we Know
EMP: but you want to give us something to walk about
EMP: you really do ;-)
Johannes: haha!
Johannes: no problem.
Johannes: I hope until there have already had time to meet the new ...
Johannes: how can I say that minister in English?
Johannes: interior minister CAN'T be.
EMP: you mean as in the man who runs domestic matters?
EMP: that could be Interior Minister, or Minister of Internal Affairs
EMP: either way is good
Johannes: yep, that.
Johannes: minister of internal affairs.
Johannes: well, I don't know in CFC... but this is in here the guy more in charge of deciding the development routes of the country.
Johannes: what includes, deciding the best next city spots.
Johannes: I want to see his ideas of next cities.
Johannes: For what I talked to Cat, seems that you already know about the foundation of "São Luiz"?
EMP: the southern most city yes
Johannes: how your citizen have reacted to that?
EMP: ho-he-hum
Johannes: ops...
Johannes: bad question?
EMP: no, that is a thinking sound
EMP:;
EMP: let me think of how to put it
Johannes: thinking on LOTR, it looks like an angry dwarf thinking about it ad holding an axe with a not nice smile on its face...
EMP:
EMP: we were.. rather unhappy about it
Johannes: well, emp, this is my horrible keyboard, horrible keyboard, this is emp.
EMP:
EMP: we are talking about it too, A LOT, we will give an official statement on the chat
Johannes: none have expected that there would be at least the possibility that there were already a settler IN there when you asked to not settle there?
Johannes: Anyway: The point is that, right before election time, a lot of "plans" for the south colonization arised.
Johannes: Some of them almost don't expand from there.
Johannes: some of the would go down to border.
EMP: well, you have all of that land up north...
Johannes: But that one comes from the crazy war-lover and president candidate that have lost the election, I assure you.
EMP: he he
Johannes: well, you now the calculating from the capital, we don't have so much useful land in the north.
Johannes: unfortunately, the forbidden palace changed too much in C3C...
Johannes: but THAT is also the important argument in which I can assure you that we won't go to much south.
Johannes: cause those cities would give us as much problem as the north ones.
EMP: well, we are discussing it, and an official statement would be given on the chat, and I don't want to promise anything here
Johannes: well, thank you in helping me in having cat on my personal team.
Johannes: with an official statement, what must I expect?
EMP: no problem
Johannes: a) you are so nice...
Johannes: b) go **** you!
Johannes: c)
Johannes: d) :'(
EMP: :-D, I never meet such a cursing Brazilian
Johannes: e) WAR, bastards, WAR and ICBMs!
Johannes": what you mean with "cursing"?
EMP: well "****" is a rather impolite word
EMP: we call it curing
EMP: cursing
Johannes: I know. And that is what I mean with and very angry and impolite official statement.
Johannes: you mean, cursing people is people that use those bad words?
EMP: in a way
EMP: it is a bad word
EMP:
EMP: and I can't post it on the forum
Johannes: ok, sorry. It was a way to really "condensate" one of the options for the "general feeling" in the statement.
EMP: I don't mind, but if you started a chat with that, and I was not at my computer, and someone saw that.. I can kiss my computer away
EMP:
Johannes: and, what, this is going to be posted in the forum?
EMP: I mean the little part about you asking about the borders
EMP: my people don't wanna see that argument
EMP:
EMP: and I edit a lot, to make everything easier
EMP: and for propaganda purposes
Johannes: well, I can't see who would become so angry with you if I say that...
Johannes: take care of that editing, ahn?
Johannes: if the edition brings me more muscles than I have in here, I'll be truly happy!
EMP: my parents would care
EMP: LOL
Johannes: by the way...
Johannes: that will be fun to discuss now.
Johannes: Cause the Constitution is being rewritten here.
EMP: really,
EMP: why is that?
Johannes: It's already time to do that.
Johannes: Our constitution is still a little bit too "child-like" for us.
EMP: child?
Johannes: And have a lot of "holes" in it, what means that there is ALWAYS people playing around them...
EMP: and with no court to deal with it
Johannes: yes.
Johannes: and, so, no death penalty.
EMP:
Johannes: and also the court is something that was proposed but the opposition could break the proposal.
Johannes: they agued that the Supreme Court would "destroy our already weak democracy"
EMP: what? We have one
EMP: we never use it, but it is a back up
EMP: it is good
Johannes: I think so.
Johannes: for example, maybe we would not have to ague so hard with cat for her still be with us.
EMP:
Johannes: and, for example, I would have gladly used an immortal against that candidate for president who lost!
EMP:
Johannes: any way...
Johannes: one question back to you.
Johannes: still about borders.
EMP: I don't mind, but other may ok?
Johannes: did you wanted to colonize up to that point before...
EMP: hm?
EMP: colonize?
Johannes: I know, sorry but I tried to push cat in a really hard way about that subject of her as our ambassador, and the computer has slowed down a LOT in that moment.
Johannes: to put cities up to that proposed limit of your.
Johannes: Its cause you wanna get points of territory...
EMP: well, I can not answer that question
EMP: since I don't know, and I do not wanna lie
Johannes: or cause you think you can have productive cities over THERE?
EMP: I will ask my boss and I will get an answer for you all at the chat
Johannes: ok.
Johannes: no problem.
EMP: I think we did, but I am not positive
Johannes: up to there, I hope we can have a plan of the limit south expansion we would like to have.
Johannes: you mean, you think that they think the cities over there will be productive?
EMP: I don't know, I don't get any of that production and corruption stuff, I only do diplomacy
EMP: I will ask
Johannes: ok.
Johannes: no problem.
Johannes: anyway, I think I can say that...
Johannes: Well, it was of my proposals in the election time, to discuss this small possibility with you...
Johannes: besides the fact that I also think you will not accept it.
EMP: tell us, we are rather unpredictable
Johannes: hahaha! YEAH, I have to agree with that...
Johannes: my idea would be to escalonate the colonization of the north.
Johannes: Like, both of us discuss in a chat what will be the area taken under control in the next, say, 10 turns.
Johannes: If one of the parts could not reach it in time, that one would not have a good second area for colonization.
Johannes: OF COURSE the dealed areas would take into account that you can have about 4 settler in the time we get two, cause of the agricultural ability of yours.
Johannes: may I have made myself clear, or not?
Johannes:
EMP: sorry, I am behind on about 5 hours of sleep, and it is late
EMP:
EMP: how about I save it, and I will read it tomorrow, when I am more awake, I do not get it right now
Johannes: no problem.
Johannes: btw
Johannes: what tme is it there right now?
EMP: 10:00 PM
Johannes: come on, it's early!
EMP: but I got school, and every moring I ahve to save up at 5:00AM
EMP: :-D
Johannes: ok, now ok.
EMP: all Brazilians seam to stay up late\
Johannes: bad habit in here.
EMP:
EMP: before I go, what is yuor GMT?
Johannes: is it proper written? "habit"?
EMP: yes, don't doubt your English, it is good
Johannes: I think... plus 3.
Johannes: but it means 2-4 hours difference, depending in who is in the save time.
EMP: no it is not plus three
EMP: it must be minus, are you not in Brazil?
Johannes: gimme a second
Johannes: ah, ok, wrong sign.
EMP: minus
EMP:
Johannes: payed attention to the "mantissa"...
EMP:
EMP: o yea, by the way, I like your title on the forums
EMP:
Johannes: my title?
EMP: down with bush is it?
Johannes: hahaha! I didn't expect you would find that!
Johannes: good, seems that we have similar ideas.
Johannes: at least in real world, let's see in the game world.
EMP: let's hope so
EMP: and when do you want the chat?
EMP: Saturday or Sunday?
EMP: I like early so our European players can come
Johannes: can't tell you right now.
Johannes: btw, is it here in msn?
Johannes: or still in IRC channels?
EMP: if no one shows up other than me from Fanatica, we can have it on MSN, but if someone else comes who does not have MSN, we have to have it in the IRC
Johannes: well, we can talk now.
Johannes: I tried the last move now.
Johannes: But I do think that she is "reverse-psychology" proof.
EMP: :-D Reverse-Psychology, I love that stuff!
EMP: well anyways
Johannes: I hate it!
EMP:
Johannes: there is just two friends that can do that efficiently against me.
Johannes: and they really know how!
Johannes:
EMP:
EMP: well I must insist, A LOT, that you guys make a counter-proposal for borders
Johannes: it's being discussed.
Johannes: Have you already received the game back?
EMP: I mean as in "I really want it" for the chat
Johannes: ops...
Johannes:
EMP:
Johannes: Then, I need to look how it will go.
EMP: the last turn I see is the info on turn 97, but I do not run the save process
Johannes: Election time usually means "nothing else is done in the country" here...
Johannes: Especially because with the full change in the govern now, we will have to meet and discuss.
Johannes: But you are aware that people is 99% certainly not accept the actual border, no?
EMP: we Know
EMP: but you want to give us something to walk about
EMP: you really do ;-)
Johannes: haha!
Johannes: no problem.
Johannes: I hope until there have already had time to meet the new ...
Johannes: how can I say that minister in English?
Johannes: interior minister CAN'T be.
EMP: you mean as in the man who runs domestic matters?
EMP: that could be Interior Minister, or Minister of Internal Affairs
EMP: either way is good
Johannes: yep, that.
Johannes: minister of internal affairs.
Johannes: well, I don't know in CFC... but this is in here the guy more in charge of deciding the development routes of the country.
Johannes: what includes, deciding the best next city spots.
Johannes: I want to see his ideas of next cities.
Johannes: For what I talked to Cat, seems that you already know about the foundation of "São Luiz"?
EMP: the southern most city yes
Johannes: how your citizen have reacted to that?
EMP: ho-he-hum
Johannes: ops...
Johannes: bad question?
EMP: no, that is a thinking sound
EMP:
;EMP: let me think of how to put it
Johannes: thinking on LOTR, it looks like an angry dwarf thinking about it ad holding an axe with a not nice smile on its face...
EMP:
EMP: we were.. rather unhappy about it
Johannes: well, emp, this is my horrible keyboard, horrible keyboard, this is emp.
EMP:
EMP: we are talking about it too, A LOT, we will give an official statement on the chat
Johannes: none have expected that there would be at least the possibility that there were already a settler IN there when you asked to not settle there?
Johannes: Anyway: The point is that, right before election time, a lot of "plans" for the south colonization arised.
Johannes: Some of them almost don't expand from there.
Johannes: some of the would go down to border.
EMP: well, you have all of that land up north...
Johannes: But that one comes from the crazy war-lover and president candidate that have lost the election, I assure you.
EMP: he he
Johannes: well, you now the calculating from the capital, we don't have so much useful land in the north.
Johannes: unfortunately, the forbidden palace changed too much in C3C...
Johannes: but THAT is also the important argument in which I can assure you that we won't go to much south.
Johannes: cause those cities would give us as much problem as the north ones.
EMP: well, we are discussing it, and an official statement would be given on the chat, and I don't want to promise anything here
Johannes: well, thank you in helping me in having cat on my personal team.
Johannes: with an official statement, what must I expect?
EMP:
no problemJohannes: a) you are so nice...
Johannes: b) go **** you!
Johannes: c)
Johannes: d) :'(
EMP: :-D, I never meet such a cursing Brazilian
Johannes: e) WAR, bastards, WAR and ICBMs!
Johannes": what you mean with "cursing"?
EMP: well "****" is a rather impolite word
EMP: we call it curing
EMP: cursing
Johannes: I know. And that is what I mean with and very angry and impolite official statement.
Johannes: you mean, cursing people is people that use those bad words?
EMP: in a way
EMP: it is a bad word
EMP:
EMP: and I can't post it on the forum
Johannes: ok, sorry. It was a way to really "condensate" one of the options for the "general feeling" in the statement.
EMP: I don't mind, but if you started a chat with that, and I was not at my computer, and someone saw that.. I can kiss my computer away
EMP:
Johannes: and, what, this is going to be posted in the forum?
EMP: I mean the little part about you asking about the borders
EMP: my people don't wanna see that argument
EMP:
EMP: and I edit a lot, to make everything easier
EMP: and for propaganda purposes
Johannes: well, I can't see who would become so angry with you if I say that...
Johannes: take care of that editing, ahn?
Johannes: if the edition brings me more muscles than I have in here, I'll be truly happy!
EMP: my parents would care
EMP: LOL
Johannes: by the way...
Johannes: that will be fun to discuss now.
Johannes: Cause the Constitution is being rewritten here.
EMP: really,
EMP: why is that?
Johannes: It's already time to do that.
Johannes: Our constitution is still a little bit too "child-like" for us.
EMP: child?
Johannes: And have a lot of "holes" in it, what means that there is ALWAYS people playing around them...
EMP:
and with no court to deal with itJohannes: yes.
Johannes: and, so, no death penalty.
EMP:
Johannes: and also the court is something that was proposed but the opposition could break the proposal.
Johannes: they agued that the Supreme Court would "destroy our already weak democracy"
EMP: what? We have one
EMP: we never use it, but it is a back up
EMP: it is good
Johannes: I think so.
Johannes: for example, maybe we would not have to ague so hard with cat for her still be with us.
EMP:
Johannes: and, for example, I would have gladly used an immortal against that candidate for president who lost!
EMP:
Johannes: any way...
Johannes: one question back to you.
Johannes: still about borders.
EMP: I don't mind, but other may ok?
Johannes: did you wanted to colonize up to that point before...
EMP: hm?
EMP: colonize?
Johannes: I know, sorry but I tried to push cat in a really hard way about that subject of her as our ambassador, and the computer has slowed down a LOT in that moment.
Johannes: to put cities up to that proposed limit of your.
Johannes: Its cause you wanna get points of territory...
EMP: well, I can not answer that question
EMP: since I don't know, and I do not wanna lie
Johannes: or cause you think you can have productive cities over THERE?
EMP: I will ask my boss and I will get an answer for you all at the chat
Johannes: ok.
Johannes: no problem.
EMP: I think we did, but I am not positive
Johannes: up to there, I hope we can have a plan of the limit south expansion we would like to have.
Johannes: you mean, you think that they think the cities over there will be productive?
EMP: I don't know, I don't get any of that production and corruption stuff, I only do diplomacy
EMP: I will ask
Johannes: ok.
Johannes: no problem.
Johannes: anyway, I think I can say that...
Johannes: Well, it was of my proposals in the election time, to discuss this small possibility with you...
Johannes: besides the fact that I also think you will not accept it.
EMP: tell us, we are rather unpredictable
Johannes: hahaha! YEAH, I have to agree with that...
Johannes: my idea would be to escalonate the colonization of the north.
Johannes: Like, both of us discuss in a chat what will be the area taken under control in the next, say, 10 turns.
Johannes: If one of the parts could not reach it in time, that one would not have a good second area for colonization.
Johannes: OF COURSE the dealed areas would take into account that you can have about 4 settler in the time we get two, cause of the agricultural ability of yours.
Johannes: may I have made myself clear, or not?
Johannes:
EMP: sorry, I am behind on about 5 hours of sleep, and it is late
EMP:
EMP: how about I save it, and I will read it tomorrow, when I am more awake, I do not get it right now
Johannes: no problem.
Johannes: btw
Johannes: what tme is it there right now?
EMP: 10:00 PM
Johannes: come on, it's early!
EMP: but I got school, and every moring I ahve to save up at 5:00AM
EMP: :-D
Johannes: ok, now ok.
EMP: all Brazilians seam to stay up late\
Johannes: bad habit in here.
EMP:
EMP: before I go, what is yuor GMT?
Johannes: is it proper written? "habit"?
EMP: yes, don't doubt your English, it is good
Johannes: I think... plus 3.
Johannes: but it means 2-4 hours difference, depending in who is in the save time.
EMP: no it is not plus three
EMP: it must be minus, are you not in Brazil?
Johannes: gimme a second
Johannes: ah, ok, wrong sign.
EMP: minus
EMP:
Johannes: payed attention to the "mantissa"...
EMP:
EMP: o yea, by the way, I like your title on the forums
EMP:
Johannes: my title?
EMP: down with bush is it?
Johannes: hahaha! I didn't expect you would find that!
Johannes: good, seems that we have similar ideas.
Johannes: at least in real world, let's see in the game world.
EMP:
let's hope soEMP: and when do you want the chat?
EMP: Saturday or Sunday?
EMP: I like early so our European players can come
Johannes: can't tell you right now.
Johannes: btw, is it here in msn?
Johannes: or still in IRC channels?
EMP: if no one shows up other than me from Fanatica, we can have it on MSN, but if someone else comes who does not have MSN, we have to have it in the IRC
Emp.Napoleon
SUPER EMP!
Sorry, I did not get a chance to edit this part that happened last night.
Session Start (MSN - EMP - Powiegen Empire!:Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'"): Fri Oct 08 20:34:05 2004
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hi!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: hey there friend
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: how are you
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": good
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and you?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I am good
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: did you come for some tea or bussiness this fine evening?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": tea would be nice.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": besides the fact that I would preffer coffe?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D sure, I think I can dig up some
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hahaha!
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": how are things down there in fanatica?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: they are good, we are having a boat race
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: RPG style
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": boat race, in rpg? what are you talking about?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": some completelly nuts curragh captains?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: you see, we start a thread, and everyone who wantes to be in the race makes a boat, like colour, name and such
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: and then the first one to post in the thread after a turn has been played moves three spaces, the second two, and the other all move one
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you BAG to be kidding me that you are REALLY doing this in the forum...
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: BAG lol
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: funny term
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": wrong or right in this case?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: you could use, "gotta"
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: it is ok to speak informaly here
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: we do, you got a problem with that
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anyway...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": have you re-read the proposal for occupation of that south rea I did for you?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I was just getting to it
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anything, just ask.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I DO think you will not mget it in a first moment.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: give me 5 minets
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no problem
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EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now the wuestion was if we planned to colonize up north?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": what you mean by north here?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": your north, or our north?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: north, I mean the land to our north, your south
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": whole area?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the land up north from you would be yuors
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that would mean... welll. ans official statement from us. at least.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: teh proposed border gives you the puninsula up north
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: and all theland from your southerm most city iwll be ours
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, people already didn't accpted the border before São Luiz, no?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: this was proposed T. Luiz
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and the north, for us, is useless. no prodction ca be taken from there.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": just territorial points.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well then what can we do with it?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, we are going to make another border proposal.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": not in the middle of that continent section, I assure you.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": se sant a piece of the north.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": nt a hube piece, but we do sant that.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": at our proectivity limit.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and, by sure, it will be yours prodctivity cities limit also.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I REALLY do ot believ that a city on our ctual border from you will give more than a shield per turn.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well if that land north of you all is not good for you, then who will get it?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": my gosh, I'm getting worst in my typewriting at each second!
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that is the point.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: it's ok, that means I don't have to be good
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you want the middle area for territorial points purposes.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that will be our single interest in the northern area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": BUT the northern piece of the middle area is still a productive spot for us.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yes, but waht abotu the puninsula up north, who wil get that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": if it was just the territorial points in there, there would be no discussion. but there is shields too...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we get that. later. with the extra shields, it will be easier.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: wait, you want the north puninsula AND the middle area?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": believe-me, people dont want a big slice of that middle area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we want an slce of that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": horizontally cutted.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": at a certains latitude.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ytea but, you get erritoria points up north, then production in the middle, we get productive area but not much more
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yuo still will havev more point/production then us
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but you islnad is productive.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": cuase it´s closer to the capital than our north
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we get extra production from the slice, you from the island.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you get extra points fro almost all middle area, we get from the north.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well, i you count our puninsula, and the island, we get about yuor land of your production
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: from the middel land
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": didn't get your point now.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: let me bust out a map
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I think you can get an equivalent production area from the sum of our north with the middle slice, if compared to your whole actual area summed to the island.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now loking at a map
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: if we made te border at let's say with us getting the tobacoo
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: you guys get about the same amount of land for production as our homeland and island
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: just a littel less
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: but then yuo guys get a big north puninsula
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok, now let ME see the map, to REMEMBER where is te tobacco!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: it loks very infair
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the map is my wallaper
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: *wallpaper
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": don't forget that those tobacco will make some of you just territorial points cities become productive cities in some extent!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yes but you guys got incence
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: somehwere up there
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": as well as you got the ... marfim? that elephant teeth!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ivory, yes
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: hm
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I see your point
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: exacoly where will be this border
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": will be discussed.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but what I can assure you from the proposals...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no new tobacco sites are accessed in the proposal we are going to make.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I mean, none of the proposals we are still discussing before present it to you in the next chat are going to make us reach any of the tobaccos.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": execpt for the one that is ALREADYin the São Luíz ratio.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": are you there?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yes
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sorry, I read slowly
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I see that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no problem.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well, I don't promise anything now
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": of course, you can't see he proposal now.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I was counting tiles here.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": the proposal assures you at least 2/3 of the middle area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": good or bad for your years?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'":
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": btw, I can't be sure ir the proposal is going to presented in the next chat, since it starte to be voted TODAY.
Session Start (MSN - EMP - Powiegen Empire!:Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'"): Fri Oct 08 20:34:05 2004
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hi!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: hey there friend
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: how are you
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": good
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and you?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I am good
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: did you come for some tea or bussiness this fine evening?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": tea would be nice.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": besides the fact that I would preffer coffe?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D sure, I think I can dig up some
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hahaha!
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": how are things down there in fanatica?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: they are good, we are having a boat race
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: RPG style
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": boat race, in rpg? what are you talking about?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": some completelly nuts curragh captains?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: you see, we start a thread, and everyone who wantes to be in the race makes a boat, like colour, name and such
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: and then the first one to post in the thread after a turn has been played moves three spaces, the second two, and the other all move one
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you BAG to be kidding me that you are REALLY doing this in the forum...
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: BAG lol
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: funny term
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": wrong or right in this case?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: you could use, "gotta"
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
it is ok to speak informaly hereEMP - Powiegen Empire!: we do, you got a problem with that
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anyway...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": have you re-read the proposal for occupation of that south rea I did for you?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I was just getting to it
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anything, just ask.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I DO think you will not mget it in a first moment.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: give me 5 minets
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no problem
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EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now the wuestion was if we planned to colonize up north?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": what you mean by north here?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": your north, or our north?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: north, I mean the land to our north, your south
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": whole area?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the land up north from you would be yuors
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that would mean... welll. ans official statement from us. at least.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: teh proposed border gives you the puninsula up north
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: and all theland from your southerm most city iwll be ours
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, people already didn't accpted the border before São Luiz, no?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: this was proposed T. Luiz
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and the north, for us, is useless. no prodction ca be taken from there.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": just territorial points.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well then what can we do with it?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, we are going to make another border proposal.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": not in the middle of that continent section, I assure you.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": se sant a piece of the north.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": nt a hube piece, but we do sant that.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": at our proectivity limit.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and, by sure, it will be yours prodctivity cities limit also.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I REALLY do ot believ that a city on our ctual border from you will give more than a shield per turn.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well if that land north of you all is not good for you, then who will get it?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": my gosh, I'm getting worst in my typewriting at each second!
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that is the point.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
it's ok, that means I don't have to be goodJohannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you want the middle area for territorial points purposes.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that will be our single interest in the northern area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": BUT the northern piece of the middle area is still a productive spot for us.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yes, but waht abotu the puninsula up north, who wil get that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": if it was just the territorial points in there, there would be no discussion. but there is shields too...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we get that. later. with the extra shields, it will be easier.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: wait, you want the north puninsula AND the middle area?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": believe-me, people dont want a big slice of that middle area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we want an slce of that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": horizontally cutted.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": at a certains latitude.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ytea but, you get erritoria points up north, then production in the middle, we get productive area but not much more
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yuo still will havev more point/production then us
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but you islnad is productive.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": cuase it´s closer to the capital than our north
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we get extra production from the slice, you from the island.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you get extra points fro almost all middle area, we get from the north.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well, i you count our puninsula, and the island, we get about yuor land of your production
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: from the middel land
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": didn't get your point now.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: let me bust out a map
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I think you can get an equivalent production area from the sum of our north with the middle slice, if compared to your whole actual area summed to the island.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now loking at a map
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: if we made te border at let's say with us getting the tobacoo
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: you guys get about the same amount of land for production as our homeland and island
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: just a littel less
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: but then yuo guys get a big north puninsula
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok, now let ME see the map, to REMEMBER where is te tobacco!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: it loks very infair
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
the map is my wallaperEMP - Powiegen Empire!: *wallpaper
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": don't forget that those tobacco will make some of you just territorial points cities become productive cities in some extent!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yes but you guys got incence
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: somehwere up there
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": as well as you got the ... marfim? that elephant teeth!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ivory, yes
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: hm
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I see your point
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: exacoly where will be this border
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": will be discussed.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but what I can assure you from the proposals...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no new tobacco sites are accessed in the proposal we are going to make.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I mean, none of the proposals we are still discussing before present it to you in the next chat are going to make us reach any of the tobaccos.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": execpt for the one that is ALREADYin the São Luíz ratio.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": are you there?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: yes
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sorry, I read slowly
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I see that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no problem.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well, I don't promise anything now
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": of course, you can't see he proposal now.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I was counting tiles here.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": the proposal assures you at least 2/3 of the middle area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": good or bad for your years?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'":
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": btw, I can't be sure ir the proposal is going to presented in the next chat, since it starte to be voted TODAY.
Emp.Napoleon
SUPER EMP!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: that will be a major problem, can you hurry it up, not to be rude
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: we really weant to see it
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I hope the poll shows up a tendency until there.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": btw, is it saturday or monday?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": what is setted between you and krasan?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, but I already gave you a few description of it.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": first, you get at least 2/3 of the middle area.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sunday 18:00 GMt
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": second, all the tobacco (except, of course, for the one IN São Luiz) are yours.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok, sunday, not monday.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: just to tell you, it will rarly be on a week day
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that is probably te most difficult thing mong the simple ones for a portuguese speaker get i the english language!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I though on sundy, and said the monday. cause the "day of the moon" and the "day of the sun" are completelly nonsense for us!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: LOL
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I never sued those terms
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": our sunday word, for example, is "domingo", hich comes from the latim "domini"
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: latin, I study latin
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and saturday is "sábado", and comes from the jewish "sabbat"
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I also studied spanish for a few years
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": the other days go with the numbers.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sabath
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: they also go with the planets in anchient times
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: monday-moon
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I forget hte rest
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": yes, I now.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and thats why it doesn't make sense in portuguese.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": because the domini has nothing to do with the sun.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: domini is latin for God, and sunday is God day
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and monday, for us, is said as the second day of the week: segunda(second)-feira
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I think it is spelled differnty though
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": comme on, you want too much from my religious knowledge!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anyway, what have you got from that proposal, of , of creating "sequences" of territories for occupation?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: if it was said last night, I have not posted it yet
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I was at school then I went to a football game, I only got home a few hours ago
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hwen I said you, I haven't said the fanatica, but napoleon.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": football or soccer you mean?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: Football, as in tackling people, soccer is a spring sport here
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": tackling, spring sport???
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: becuase in some part of america it snows, so i can not be played int he winter
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: no football is
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: takling in soccer woulld be funny
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": what does it means, tackling?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: as in if a player as the ball, the other player will toss themselves and grab onto the person with the ball, to stop them
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": real soccer has a bit of it as well...
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: not only on the field , but in the stands too
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": also in soccer...
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but on the fields there is no ball, just people.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D that's the fun part
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ops, sorry in the stands!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sometimes they get on the field though
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, any way.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": how you undrstood that proposal of my?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: which one now?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": the one of defining territories to be occupied in certain amount of time, then next piece, and etc...?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: no i do not understand, you mena we limit settleing in a certain area, then so many turns later we opean tat area
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: *that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": almost that.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we defind the settling area for each one for a period, and after the period we go to the next settling area for each one.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no competition, but organized occupation.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: enlighten me as to how that will be better than jsut a plain old border
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": let me watch the map for a while.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok, like that:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we define that, in the next 10 turns, we will have to ocuppy the area that goes two tiles bellow São Luiz (defing it as an horizontal area)
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": an in the same next 10 turns, you have to fullfill the 3 tiles up o barad dur.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ame horizontal area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that's an examp-les, easy one.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": after that, if both fullfilled their areas properly, we devide again the rest, and goes on.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": got now?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I can not speak for my team on that matter, will wil post it and see waht people say
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I really don't think the people of your will accept it, but this i maybe a way to go without atrict.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anyway, no you understood the idea, didn't you?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I get it
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: but it stiill leads toa border
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": can I sak wht napoleon thinks of it?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": of course.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: Napoleon? ha, i was starting to think so one really knew what EMP stod for
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but that goes slowly to a natural border, maybe without too much fight.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well, I am a rather no-nonsence person
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hahaha!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I think we need a border down, beucse doing this wil mean that there will be a broder soner or later, but it will take longer, doingit now saves much time
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that is what many people thinks i here.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": nad that is why that is just an idea, but not and official proposal from us.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but if your people like it, and want to make an official proposal in this basis, feel free for that.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but I do think people of both will want to have the border delimited as soon as possible. Let's say that this is something more to think about. An lternative option, to be used if someone finds necessary and likes it.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the faster the border gets down
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the faster we can get that uber tech deal done
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": uber?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: super
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: uber is super in german
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ah!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: it sounds cooler
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": believe, german is like greek to me.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now we had a concerne
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: our treaty requers us to trade resorces
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now, have you all build a harnour yet?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: *harbour
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no problem.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we are building a harbor up here.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you too?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no, not yet.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: we have made one many turns ago, we are waiting for you
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: how muhc longer?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": unfortunatelly, I don't have the save file to tell you how long it's gonna take still.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ok
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well I'm done, unless you have any more stuffw e can bbring out the tea
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, with the microsft telling me here to close msn, I think we don't have an option.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ha, ok, well I will see you later then
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": have you received the same warning?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: no, I use trillian, I have too, since I keep talikingng to my friends on AIM
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": oh, ok.
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EMP - Powiegen Empire!: we really weant to see it
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I hope the poll shows up a tendency until there.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": btw, is it saturday or monday?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": what is setted between you and krasan?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, but I already gave you a few description of it.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": first, you get at least 2/3 of the middle area.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sunday 18:00 GMt
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": second, all the tobacco (except, of course, for the one IN São Luiz) are yours.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok, sunday, not monday.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: just to tell you, it will rarly be on a week day
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that is probably te most difficult thing mong the simple ones for a portuguese speaker get i the english language!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I though on sundy, and said the monday. cause the "day of the moon" and the "day of the sun" are completelly nonsense for us!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: LOL
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I never sued those terms
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": our sunday word, for example, is "domingo", hich comes from the latim "domini"
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: latin, I study latin
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and saturday is "sábado", and comes from the jewish "sabbat"
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I also studied spanish for a few years
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": the other days go with the numbers.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sabath
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: they also go with the planets in anchient times
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: monday-moon
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I forget hte rest
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": yes, I now.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and thats why it doesn't make sense in portuguese.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": because the domini has nothing to do with the sun.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: domini is latin for God, and sunday is God day
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": and monday, for us, is said as the second day of the week: segunda(second)-feira
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I think it is spelled differnty though
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": comme on, you want too much from my religious knowledge!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anyway, what have you got from that proposal, of , of creating "sequences" of territories for occupation?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: if it was said last night, I have not posted it yet
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I was at school then I went to a football game, I only got home a few hours ago
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hwen I said you, I haven't said the fanatica, but napoleon.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": football or soccer you mean?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: Football, as in tackling people, soccer is a spring sport here
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": tackling, spring sport???
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: becuase in some part of america it snows, so i can not be played int he winter
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: no football is
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: takling in soccer woulld be funny
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": what does it means, tackling?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: as in if a player as the ball, the other player will toss themselves and grab onto the person with the ball, to stop them
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well...
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": real soccer has a bit of it as well...
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
not only on the field , but in the stands tooJohannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": also in soccer...
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but on the fields there is no ball, just people.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D that's the fun part
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ops, sorry in the stands!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: sometimes they get on the field though
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, any way.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": how you undrstood that proposal of my?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: which one now?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": the one of defining territories to be occupied in certain amount of time, then next piece, and etc...?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: no i do not understand, you mena we limit settleing in a certain area, then so many turns later we opean tat area
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: *that
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": almost that.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we defind the settling area for each one for a period, and after the period we go to the next settling area for each one.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no competition, but organized occupation.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: enlighten me as to how that will be better than jsut a plain old border
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": let me watch the map for a while.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ok, like that:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we define that, in the next 10 turns, we will have to ocuppy the area that goes two tiles bellow São Luiz (defing it as an horizontal area)
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": an in the same next 10 turns, you have to fullfill the 3 tiles up o barad dur.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ame horizontal area.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that's an examp-les, easy one.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": after that, if both fullfilled their areas properly, we devide again the rest, and goes on.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": got now?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I can not speak for my team on that matter, will wil post it and see waht people say
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": I really don't think the people of your will accept it, but this i maybe a way to go without atrict.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": anyway, no you understood the idea, didn't you?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I get it
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: but it stiill leads toa border
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": can I sak wht napoleon thinks of it?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": of course.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: Napoleon? ha, i was starting to think so one really knew what EMP stod for
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but that goes slowly to a natural border, maybe without too much fight.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well, I am a rather no-nonsence person
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": hahaha!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: I think we need a border down, beucse doing this wil mean that there will be a broder soner or later, but it will take longer, doingit now saves much time
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": that is what many people thinks i here.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": nad that is why that is just an idea, but not and official proposal from us.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but if your people like it, and want to make an official proposal in this basis, feel free for that.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": but I do think people of both will want to have the border delimited as soon as possible. Let's say that this is something more to think about. An lternative option, to be used if someone finds necessary and likes it.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the faster the border gets down
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: the faster we can get that uber tech deal done
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": uber?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: super
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: uber is super in german
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": ah!
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: it sounds cooler
EMP - Powiegen Empire!:
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": believe, german is like greek to me.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: :-D
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now we had a concerne
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: our treaty requers us to trade resorces
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: now, have you all build a harnour yet?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: *harbour
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no problem.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": we are building a harbor up here.
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": you too?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": no, not yet.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: we have made one many turns ago, we are waiting for you
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: how muhc longer?
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": unfortunatelly, I don't have the save file to tell you how long it's gonna take still.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ok
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: well I'm done, unless you have any more stuffw e can bbring out the tea
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": well, with the microsft telling me here to close msn, I think we don't have an option.
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: ha, ok, well I will see you later then
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": have you received the same warning?
EMP - Powiegen Empire!: no, I use trillian, I have too, since I keep talikingng to my friends on AIM
Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'": oh, ok.
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Session Close (Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'"): Fri Oct 08 22:04:35 2004
Zarn
Le Républicain Catholique
Do the names really have to be that long...
RegentMan
Deity
Not going to try to decipher that. Will read your summary of it when you post it. Or maybe akots will as he is good at summarizing things. But I doubt he'll want to read through all that too, so... awaiting your summary. Man I rambled on this time!
Session Start (MSN - EMP :Johannes - "ã-hã, um-dois, bem certinho!", "O mundo não é um moranguinho" "Do, or do not. There is no 'try'"): Fri Oct 08 20:34:05 2004
Johannes : hi!
EMP : hey there friend
EMP : how are you
Johannes : good
Johannes : and you?
EMP : I am good
EMP : did you come for some tea or bussiness this fine evening?
EMP :
Johannes : tea would be nice.
Johannes : besides the fact that I would preffer coffe?
EMP : :-D sure, I think I can dig up some
Johannes : hahaha!
Johannes : how are things down there in fanatica?
EMP : they are good, we are having a boat race
EMP : RPG style
Johannes : boat race, in rpg? what are you talking about?
Johannes : some completelly nuts curragh captains?
EMP :
EMP : you see, we start a thread, and everyone who wantes to be in the race makes a boat, like colour, name and such
EMP : and then the first one to post in the thread after a turn has been played moves three spaces, the second two, and the other all move one
Johannes : you BAG to be kidding me that you are REALLY doing this in the forum...
EMP : BAG lol
EMP : funny term
Johannes : wrong or right in this case?
EMP : you could use, "gotta"
EMP : it is ok to speak informaly here
EMP : we do, you got a problem with that
EMP : :-D
Johannes : anyway...
Johannes : have you re-read the proposal for occupation of that south rea I did for you?
EMP : I was just getting to it
Johannes : ok.
Johannes : anything, just ask.
Johannes : I DO think you will not mget it in a first moment.
EMP : give me 5 minets
Johannes : no problem
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EMP : now the wuestion was if we planned to colonize up north?
Johannes : what you mean by north here?
Johannes : your north, or our north?
EMP : north, I mean the land to our north, your south
Johannes : whole area?
EMP : the land up north from you would be yuors
Johannes : that would mean... welll. ans official statement from us. at least.
EMP : teh proposed border gives you the puninsula up north
EMP : and all theland from your southerm most city iwll be ours
Johannes : well, people already didn't accpted the border before São Luiz, no?
EMP : this was proposed T. Luiz
Johannes : and the north, for us, is useless. no prodction ca be taken from there.
Johannes : just territorial points.
EMP : well then what can we do with it?
Johannes : well, we are going to make another border proposal.
Johannes : not in the middle of that continent section, I assure you.
EMP :
Johannes : se sant a piece of the north.
Johannes : nt a hube piece, but we do sant that.
Johannes : at our proectivity limit.
Johannes : and, by sure, it will be yours prodctivity cities limit also.
Johannes : I REALLY do ot believ that a city on our ctual border from you will give more than a shield per turn.
EMP : well if that land north of you all is not good for you, then who will get it?
Johannes : my gosh, I'm getting worst in my typewriting at each second!
Johannes : that is the point.
EMP : it's ok, that means I don't have to be good
Johannes : you want the middle area for territorial points purposes.
Johannes : that will be our single interest in the northern area.
Johannes : BUT the northern piece of the middle area is still a productive spot for us.
EMP : yes, but waht abotu the puninsula up north, who wil get that
Johannes : if it was just the territorial points in there, there would be no discussion. but there is shields too...
Johannes : we get that. later. with the extra shields, it will be easier.
EMP : wait, you want the north puninsula AND the middle area?
Johannes : believe-me, people dont want a big slice of that middle area.
Johannes : we want an slce of that
Johannes : horizontally cutted.
Johannes : at a certains latitude.
EMP : ytea but, you get erritoria points up north, then production in the middle, we get productive area but not much more
EMP : yuo still will havev more point/production then us
Johannes : but you islnad is productive.
Johannes : cuase it´s closer to the capital than our north
Johannes : we get extra production from the slice, you from the island.
Johannes : you get extra points fro almost all middle area, we get from the north.
EMP : well, i you count our puninsula, and the island, we get about yuor land of your production
EMP : from the middel land
Johannes : didn't get your point now.
EMP : let me bust out a map
Johannes : I think you can get an equivalent production area from the sum of our north with the middle slice, if compared to your whole actual area summed to the island.
EMP : now loking at a map
EMP : if we made te border at let's say with us getting the tobacoo
EMP : you guys get about the same amount of land for production as our homeland and island
EMP : just a littel less
EMP : but then yuo guys get a big north puninsula
Johannes : ok, now let ME see the map, to REMEMBER where is te tobacco!
EMP : it loks very infair
EMP : the map is my wallaper
EMP : *wallpaper
Johannes : don't forget that those tobacco will make some of you just territorial points cities become productive cities in some extent!
EMP :
EMP : yes but you guys got incence
EMP : somehwere up there
Johannes : as well as you got the ... marfim? that elephant teeth!
EMP : ivory, yes
EMP : hm
EMP : I see your point
EMP : exacoly where will be this border
Johannes : will be discussed.
Johannes : but what I can assure you from the proposals...
Johannes : no new tobacco sites are accessed in the proposal we are going to make.
Johannes : I mean, none of the proposals we are still discussing before present it to you in the next chat are going to make us reach any of the tobaccos.
Johannes : execpt for the one that is ALREADYin the São Luíz ratio.
Johannes : are you there?
EMP : yes
EMP : sorry, I read slowly
EMP : I see that
Johannes : no problem.
EMP : well, I don't promise anything now
Johannes : of course, you can't see he proposal now.
Johannes : I was counting tiles here.
Johannes : the proposal assures you at least 2/3 of the middle area.
Johannes : good or bad for your years?
Johannes :
Johannes : btw, I can't be sure ir the proposal is going to presented in the next chat, since it starte to be voted TODAY.
Johannes : hi!
EMP : hey there friend
EMP : how are you
Johannes : good
Johannes : and you?
EMP : I am good
EMP : did you come for some tea or bussiness this fine evening?
EMP :
Johannes : tea would be nice.
Johannes : besides the fact that I would preffer coffe?
EMP : :-D sure, I think I can dig up some
Johannes : hahaha!
Johannes : how are things down there in fanatica?
EMP : they are good, we are having a boat race
EMP : RPG style
Johannes : boat race, in rpg? what are you talking about?
Johannes : some completelly nuts curragh captains?
EMP :
EMP : you see, we start a thread, and everyone who wantes to be in the race makes a boat, like colour, name and such
EMP : and then the first one to post in the thread after a turn has been played moves three spaces, the second two, and the other all move one
Johannes : you BAG to be kidding me that you are REALLY doing this in the forum...
EMP : BAG lol
EMP : funny term
Johannes : wrong or right in this case?
EMP : you could use, "gotta"
EMP : it is ok to speak informaly here
EMP : we do, you got a problem with that
EMP : :-D
Johannes : anyway...
Johannes : have you re-read the proposal for occupation of that south rea I did for you?
EMP : I was just getting to it
Johannes : ok.
Johannes : anything, just ask.
Johannes : I DO think you will not mget it in a first moment.
EMP : give me 5 minets
Johannes : no problem
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EMP : now the wuestion was if we planned to colonize up north?
Johannes : what you mean by north here?
Johannes : your north, or our north?
EMP : north, I mean the land to our north, your south
Johannes : whole area?
EMP : the land up north from you would be yuors
Johannes : that would mean... welll. ans official statement from us. at least.
EMP : teh proposed border gives you the puninsula up north
EMP : and all theland from your southerm most city iwll be ours
Johannes : well, people already didn't accpted the border before São Luiz, no?
EMP : this was proposed T. Luiz
Johannes : and the north, for us, is useless. no prodction ca be taken from there.
Johannes : just territorial points.
EMP : well then what can we do with it?
Johannes : well, we are going to make another border proposal.
Johannes : not in the middle of that continent section, I assure you.
EMP :
Johannes : se sant a piece of the north.
Johannes : nt a hube piece, but we do sant that.
Johannes : at our proectivity limit.
Johannes : and, by sure, it will be yours prodctivity cities limit also.
Johannes : I REALLY do ot believ that a city on our ctual border from you will give more than a shield per turn.
EMP : well if that land north of you all is not good for you, then who will get it?
Johannes : my gosh, I'm getting worst in my typewriting at each second!
Johannes : that is the point.
EMP : it's ok, that means I don't have to be good
Johannes : you want the middle area for territorial points purposes.
Johannes : that will be our single interest in the northern area.
Johannes : BUT the northern piece of the middle area is still a productive spot for us.
EMP : yes, but waht abotu the puninsula up north, who wil get that
Johannes : if it was just the territorial points in there, there would be no discussion. but there is shields too...
Johannes : we get that. later. with the extra shields, it will be easier.
EMP : wait, you want the north puninsula AND the middle area?
Johannes : believe-me, people dont want a big slice of that middle area.
Johannes : we want an slce of that
Johannes : horizontally cutted.
Johannes : at a certains latitude.
EMP : ytea but, you get erritoria points up north, then production in the middle, we get productive area but not much more
EMP : yuo still will havev more point/production then us
Johannes : but you islnad is productive.
Johannes : cuase it´s closer to the capital than our north
Johannes : we get extra production from the slice, you from the island.
Johannes : you get extra points fro almost all middle area, we get from the north.
EMP : well, i you count our puninsula, and the island, we get about yuor land of your production
EMP : from the middel land
Johannes : didn't get your point now.
EMP : let me bust out a map
Johannes : I think you can get an equivalent production area from the sum of our north with the middle slice, if compared to your whole actual area summed to the island.
EMP : now loking at a map
EMP : if we made te border at let's say with us getting the tobacoo
EMP : you guys get about the same amount of land for production as our homeland and island
EMP : just a littel less
EMP : but then yuo guys get a big north puninsula
Johannes : ok, now let ME see the map, to REMEMBER where is te tobacco!
EMP : it loks very infair
EMP : the map is my wallaper
EMP : *wallpaper
Johannes : don't forget that those tobacco will make some of you just territorial points cities become productive cities in some extent!
EMP :
EMP : yes but you guys got incence
EMP : somehwere up there
Johannes : as well as you got the ... marfim? that elephant teeth!
EMP : ivory, yes
EMP : hm
EMP : I see your point
EMP : exacoly where will be this border
Johannes : will be discussed.
Johannes : but what I can assure you from the proposals...
Johannes : no new tobacco sites are accessed in the proposal we are going to make.
Johannes : I mean, none of the proposals we are still discussing before present it to you in the next chat are going to make us reach any of the tobaccos.
Johannes : execpt for the one that is ALREADYin the São Luíz ratio.
Johannes : are you there?
EMP : yes
EMP : sorry, I read slowly
EMP : I see that
Johannes : no problem.
EMP : well, I don't promise anything now
Johannes : of course, you can't see he proposal now.
Johannes : I was counting tiles here.
Johannes : the proposal assures you at least 2/3 of the middle area.
Johannes : good or bad for your years?
Johannes :
Johannes : btw, I can't be sure ir the proposal is going to presented in the next chat, since it starte to be voted TODAY.
EMP : that will be a major problem, can you hurry it up, not to be rude
EMP : we really weant to see it
Johannes : I hope the poll shows up a tendency until there.
Johannes : btw, is it saturday or monday?
Johannes : what is setted between you and krasan?
Johannes : well, but I already gave you a few description of it.
Johannes : first, you get at least 2/3 of the middle area.
EMP : sunday 18:00 GMt
Johannes : second, all the tobacco (except, of course, for the one IN São Luiz) are yours.
Johannes : ok, sunday, not monday.
EMP : just to tell you, it will rarly be on a week day
Johannes : that is probably te most difficult thing mong the simple ones for a portuguese speaker get i the english language!
EMP :
Johannes : I though on sundy, and said the monday. cause the "day of the moon" and the "day of the sun" are completelly nonsense for us!
EMP : LOL
EMP : I never sued those terms
Johannes : our sunday word, for example, is "domingo", hich comes from the latim "domini"
EMP : latin, I study latin
Johannes : and saturday is "sábado", and comes from the jewish "sabbat"
EMP : I also studied spanish for a few years
Johannes : the other days go with the numbers.
EMP : sabath
EMP : they also go with the planets in anchient times
EMP : monday-moon
EMP : I forget hte rest
EMP :
Johannes : yes, I now.
Johannes : and thats why it doesn't make sense in portuguese.
Johannes : because the domini has nothing to do with the sun.
EMP : domini is latin for God, and sunday is God day
Johannes : and monday, for us, is said as the second day of the week: segunda(second)-feira
EMP : I think it is spelled differnty though
Johannes : comme on, you want too much from my religious knowledge!
EMP : :-D
Johannes : anyway, what have you got from that proposal, of , of creating "sequences" of territories for occupation?
EMP : if it was said last night, I have not posted it yet
EMP : I was at school then I went to a football game, I only got home a few hours ago
Johannes : hwen I said you, I haven't said the fanatica, but napoleon.
Johannes : football or soccer you mean?
EMP : Football, as in tackling people, soccer is a spring sport here
Johannes : tackling, spring sport???
EMP : becuase in some part of america it snows, so i can not be played int he winter
EMP : no football is
Johannes : ok.
EMP : takling in soccer woulld be funny
EMP : :
EMP :
Johannes : what does it means, tackling?
EMP : as in if a player as the ball, the other player will toss themselves and grab onto the person with the ball, to stop them
Johannes : well...
Johannes : real soccer has a bit of it as well...
EMP : not only on the field , but in the stands too
Johannes : also in soccer...
EMP :
Johannes : but on the fields there is no ball, just people.
EMP : :-D that's the fun part
Johannes : ops, sorry in the stands!
EMP : sometimes they get on the field though
Johannes : well, any way.
Johannes : how you undrstood that proposal of my?
EMP : which one now?
Johannes : the one of defining territories to be occupied in certain amount of time, then next piece, and etc...?
EMP : no i do not understand, you mena we limit settleing in a certain area, then so many turns later we opean tat area
EMP : *that
Johannes : almost that.
Johannes : we defind the settling area for each one for a period, and after the period we go to the next settling area for each one.
Johannes : no competition, but organized occupation.
EMP : enlighten me as to how that will be better than jsut a plain old border
Johannes : let me watch the map for a while.
Johannes : ok, like that:
Johannes : we define that, in the next 10 turns, we will have to ocuppy the area that goes two tiles bellow São Luiz (defing it as an horizontal area)
Johannes : an in the same next 10 turns, you have to fullfill the 3 tiles up o barad dur.
Johannes : ame horizontal area.
Johannes : that's an examp-les, easy one.
Johannes : after that, if both fullfilled their areas properly, we devide again the rest, and goes on.
Johannes : got now?
EMP : I can not speak for my team on that matter, will wil post it and see waht people say
Johannes : I really don't think the people of your will accept it, but this i maybe a way to go without atrict.
Johannes : anyway, no you understood the idea, didn't you?
EMP : I get it
EMP : but it stiill leads toa border
Johannes : can I sak wht napoleon thinks of it?
Johannes : of course.
EMP : Napoleon? ha, i was starting to think so one really knew what EMP stod for
EMP : well
Johannes : but that goes slowly to a natural border, maybe without too much fight.
EMP : well, I am a rather no-nonsence person
Johannes : hahaha!
EMP : I think we need a border down, beucse doing this wil mean that there will be a broder soner or later, but it will take longer, doingit now saves much time
Johannes : that is what many people thinks i here.
Johannes : nad that is why that is just an idea, but not and official proposal from us.
Johannes : but if your people like it, and want to make an official proposal in this basis, feel free for that.
Johannes : but I do think people of both will want to have the border delimited as soon as possible. Let's say that this is something more to think about. An lternative option, to be used if someone finds necessary and likes it.
EMP : well
EMP : the faster the border gets down
EMP : the faster we can get that uber tech deal done
Johannes : uber?
EMP : super
EMP : uber is super in german
Johannes : ah!
EMP : it sounds cooler
EMP :
Johannes : believe, german is like greek to me.
EMP : :-D
EMP : now we had a concerne
EMP : our treaty requers us to trade resorces
EMP : now, have you all build a harnour yet?
EMP : *harbour
Johannes : no problem.
Johannes : we are building a harbor up here.
Johannes : you too?
Johannes : no, not yet.
EMP : we have made one many turns ago, we are waiting for you
EMP : how muhc longer?
Johannes : unfortunatelly, I don't have the save file to tell you how long it's gonna take still.
EMP : ok
EMP : well I'm done, unless you have any more stuffw e can bbring out the tea
Johannes : well, with the microsft telling me here to close msn, I think we don't have an option.
EMP : ha, ok, well I will see you later then
Johannes : have you received the same warning?
EMP : no, I use trillian, I have too, since I keep talikingng to my friends on AIM
Johannes : oh, ok.
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EMP : we really weant to see it
Johannes : I hope the poll shows up a tendency until there.
Johannes : btw, is it saturday or monday?
Johannes : what is setted between you and krasan?
Johannes : well, but I already gave you a few description of it.
Johannes : first, you get at least 2/3 of the middle area.
EMP : sunday 18:00 GMt
Johannes : second, all the tobacco (except, of course, for the one IN São Luiz) are yours.
Johannes : ok, sunday, not monday.
EMP : just to tell you, it will rarly be on a week day
Johannes : that is probably te most difficult thing mong the simple ones for a portuguese speaker get i the english language!
EMP :
Johannes : I though on sundy, and said the monday. cause the "day of the moon" and the "day of the sun" are completelly nonsense for us!
EMP : LOL
EMP : I never sued those terms
Johannes : our sunday word, for example, is "domingo", hich comes from the latim "domini"
EMP : latin, I study latin
Johannes : and saturday is "sábado", and comes from the jewish "sabbat"
EMP : I also studied spanish for a few years
Johannes : the other days go with the numbers.
EMP : sabath
EMP : they also go with the planets in anchient times
EMP : monday-moon
EMP : I forget hte rest
EMP :
Johannes : yes, I now.
Johannes : and thats why it doesn't make sense in portuguese.
Johannes : because the domini has nothing to do with the sun.
EMP : domini is latin for God, and sunday is God day
Johannes : and monday, for us, is said as the second day of the week: segunda(second)-feira
EMP : I think it is spelled differnty though
Johannes : comme on, you want too much from my religious knowledge!
EMP : :-D
Johannes : anyway, what have you got from that proposal, of , of creating "sequences" of territories for occupation?
EMP : if it was said last night, I have not posted it yet
EMP : I was at school then I went to a football game, I only got home a few hours ago
Johannes : hwen I said you, I haven't said the fanatica, but napoleon.
Johannes : football or soccer you mean?
EMP : Football, as in tackling people, soccer is a spring sport here
Johannes : tackling, spring sport???
EMP : becuase in some part of america it snows, so i can not be played int he winter
EMP : no football is
Johannes : ok.
EMP : takling in soccer woulld be funny
EMP : :
EMP :
Johannes : what does it means, tackling?
EMP : as in if a player as the ball, the other player will toss themselves and grab onto the person with the ball, to stop them
Johannes : well...
Johannes : real soccer has a bit of it as well...
EMP : not only on the field , but in the stands too
Johannes : also in soccer...
EMP :
Johannes : but on the fields there is no ball, just people.
EMP : :-D that's the fun part
Johannes : ops, sorry in the stands!
EMP : sometimes they get on the field though
Johannes : well, any way.
Johannes : how you undrstood that proposal of my?
EMP : which one now?
Johannes : the one of defining territories to be occupied in certain amount of time, then next piece, and etc...?
EMP : no i do not understand, you mena we limit settleing in a certain area, then so many turns later we opean tat area
EMP : *that
Johannes : almost that.
Johannes : we defind the settling area for each one for a period, and after the period we go to the next settling area for each one.
Johannes : no competition, but organized occupation.
EMP : enlighten me as to how that will be better than jsut a plain old border
Johannes : let me watch the map for a while.
Johannes : ok, like that:
Johannes : we define that, in the next 10 turns, we will have to ocuppy the area that goes two tiles bellow São Luiz (defing it as an horizontal area)
Johannes : an in the same next 10 turns, you have to fullfill the 3 tiles up o barad dur.
Johannes : ame horizontal area.
Johannes : that's an examp-les, easy one.
Johannes : after that, if both fullfilled their areas properly, we devide again the rest, and goes on.
Johannes : got now?
EMP : I can not speak for my team on that matter, will wil post it and see waht people say
Johannes : I really don't think the people of your will accept it, but this i maybe a way to go without atrict.
Johannes : anyway, no you understood the idea, didn't you?
EMP : I get it
EMP : but it stiill leads toa border
Johannes : can I sak wht napoleon thinks of it?
Johannes : of course.
EMP : Napoleon? ha, i was starting to think so one really knew what EMP stod for
EMP : well
Johannes : but that goes slowly to a natural border, maybe without too much fight.
EMP : well, I am a rather no-nonsence person
Johannes : hahaha!
EMP : I think we need a border down, beucse doing this wil mean that there will be a broder soner or later, but it will take longer, doingit now saves much time
Johannes : that is what many people thinks i here.
Johannes : nad that is why that is just an idea, but not and official proposal from us.
Johannes : but if your people like it, and want to make an official proposal in this basis, feel free for that.
Johannes : but I do think people of both will want to have the border delimited as soon as possible. Let's say that this is something more to think about. An lternative option, to be used if someone finds necessary and likes it.
EMP : well
EMP : the faster the border gets down
EMP : the faster we can get that uber tech deal done
Johannes : uber?
EMP : super
EMP : uber is super in german
Johannes : ah!
EMP : it sounds cooler
EMP :
Johannes : believe, german is like greek to me.
EMP : :-D
EMP : now we had a concerne
EMP : our treaty requers us to trade resorces
EMP : now, have you all build a harnour yet?
EMP : *harbour
Johannes : no problem.
Johannes : we are building a harbor up here.
Johannes : you too?
Johannes : no, not yet.
EMP : we have made one many turns ago, we are waiting for you
EMP : how muhc longer?
Johannes : unfortunatelly, I don't have the save file to tell you how long it's gonna take still.
EMP : ok
EMP : well I'm done, unless you have any more stuffw e can bbring out the tea
Johannes : well, with the microsft telling me here to close msn, I think we don't have an option.
EMP : ha, ok, well I will see you later then
Johannes : have you received the same warning?
EMP : no, I use trillian, I have too, since I keep talikingng to my friends on AIM
Johannes : oh, ok.
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-=> When reading this I was screaming: "No. You C3B are too untrustworthy to have this kind of flexible treaty. We want a to draw the line NOW !! And don't talk rubbish about "Territorial points". Either you want us as an ally; give us what we need and we'll give you what you need; or don't be an ally and fight it out on the battle field."
Hygro
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Their northern land looks pretty darn productive to me. Their proposal is ludicrous.
TheDuckOfFlanders
the fish collecter
And to this point C3B looks to me as much-talk-few-do ,a harbor is in construction but finnishing date is unknown ,a flexible border treaty while it is just rediculous to do such a thing opposed to the much simpler "lets draw a line here" ,a tech deal that isn't a tech deal yet.
Simply said they don't look trustworthy at this point at all ,however the situation is as such that we are not in the position to take a radicly different stance though.
However ,i think we are a bit lacking behind in playing the "cold diplomacy game" here ,as reaction to C3B's settling of a city in the buffer zone we shoulda settled 2 city's there ourself ,and in rather forcing positions.
I don't think that both the nations are up to war at this point ,however both are trying to get most out of diplomacy for their side's concern.
C3B's settling of that southern city teaches me that as far as this diplomatic relation goes ,"whats done is done" as concequences of actions can later be stalled in diplomatic talks ,and that we better pull of an act that carries weight to force them diplomaticly in submition rather than "ask them nicely/diplomaticly" .
That means ,1 or better 2 settler's north plz ,and let em build quite closely to that southern C3B city.And when they complain we react: Oh sorry but our action isn't "permanent" or to annoy you our good friends in any way ,we can still resolve it in (lenghty ,OOH SOOOO lenghty) diplomatic discussion where ANYTHING (note friendly machevelian boycotting ,"unavoidable" forum discussions and any possible "delay" that carries with that) is possible.
And in this let take some of their statements literraly to use em later:
Lets calculate what that is seeing from the point prior of the new southern C3B city ,settle strategicly to the border of 2/3's at least and then use that statement if they got questions ,also use their proposal of turn based settling as if we "misunderstood" their hard to understand Portugese ass as if we had the right actually to do that.
And another thing ,a note to EMP Napoleon plz to annoy C3B next chat could use a nicname of atleast 80 characters?
Simply said they don't look trustworthy at this point at all ,however the situation is as such that we are not in the position to take a radicly different stance though.
However ,i think we are a bit lacking behind in playing the "cold diplomacy game" here ,as reaction to C3B's settling of a city in the buffer zone we shoulda settled 2 city's there ourself ,and in rather forcing positions.
I don't think that both the nations are up to war at this point ,however both are trying to get most out of diplomacy for their side's concern.
C3B's settling of that southern city teaches me that as far as this diplomatic relation goes ,"whats done is done" as concequences of actions can later be stalled in diplomatic talks ,and that we better pull of an act that carries weight to force them diplomaticly in submition rather than "ask them nicely/diplomaticly" .
That means ,1 or better 2 settler's north plz ,and let em build quite closely to that southern C3B city.And when they complain we react: Oh sorry but our action isn't "permanent" or to annoy you our good friends in any way ,we can still resolve it in (lenghty ,OOH SOOOO lenghty) diplomatic discussion where ANYTHING (note friendly machevelian boycotting ,"unavoidable" forum discussions and any possible "delay" that carries with that) is possible.
And in this let take some of their statements literraly to use em later:
Lets calculate what that is seeing from the point prior of the new southern C3B city ,settle strategicly to the border of 2/3's at least and then use that statement if they got questions ,also use their proposal of turn based settling as if we "misunderstood" their hard to understand Portugese ass as if we had the right actually to do that.
And another thing ,a note to EMP Napoleon plz to annoy C3B next chat could use a nicname of atleast 80 characters?
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