plarq
Crazy forever
Here's the situation in former Mongolia and England:
Emperor training grounds--I need training!
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Nice work, plarq.
We should converge every fast moving unit we have on Karakorum and rumble south. Shift a handful of MDI towards Odense, though, and make sure the costal towns have muskets in them as it looks like the Viqueens are next on the hit list.
We should converge every fast moving unit we have on Karakorum and rumble south. Shift a handful of MDI towards Odense, though, and make sure the costal towns have muskets in them as it looks like the Viqueens are next on the hit list.
eldar
ChiefTank
I like what I'm picking up... Gems and Spices online, very handy 
Looks like I'll spend my 10 mopping up, building a bit of infrastructure back home, and prepping the way for Viper et al to press on Ragnar. We're researching Theology... hmm, would've figured a run to MT would be handy, esp with plenty of Armies running round, the Mil Acad would be a nice feature in Delhi 
Neil.
Looks like I'll spend my 10 mopping up, building a bit of infrastructure back home, and prepping the way for Viper et al to press on Ragnar. We're researching Theology... hmm, would've figured a run to MT would be handy, esp with plenty of Armies running round, the Mil Acad would be a nice feature in Delhi Neil.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
Nicely fought, plarq! 
Did we get our trebuchets back? They did a nice job of redlining the pike at Bedeville, and make a nice compliment to the Sword Army...
@eldar: Try to build some boats, I lost a couple of galleys on suicide runs during my turns. While you're mopping up Ta-Tu and the Mongol interior, see if you can upgrade our Catapult to Trebuchets (Trebs are much better..) and also try to get some sort of road going straight down the middle of the continent. I think we may need one to help take out the Vikings pretty soon.
Did we get our trebuchets back? They did a nice job of redlining the pike at Bedeville, and make a nice compliment to the Sword Army...
@eldar: Try to build some boats, I lost a couple of galleys on suicide runs during my turns. While you're mopping up Ta-Tu and the Mongol interior, see if you can upgrade our Catapult to Trebuchets (Trebs are much better..) and also try to get some sort of road going straight down the middle of the continent. I think we may need one to help take out the Vikings pretty soon.
plarq
Crazy forever
IHT: LB kills MDI near Karakorum,it's in danger.Bunch of units
built.Salamanca holds WLTK(Mahatma)D.Palace expands.
Turn 6:760AD.Strike Ta-Tu with army,lose 1hp,kill two Pikes and a MDI,show two LBs and one Treb.In Karakorum,cats work wonderfully but the lone elephant died on LB.No troop in Karakorum now.So I decided to gift to English(Peace expires next turn),Gem offline.Teleport 4 cats and 1 slave to Delhi,is it magic?MM to prevent riots.
IBT:LB retreat Elephant,Incan complete KT at home.
Turn 7:770AD.Spice online.Elephant army strike three times,Capture Ta-Tu with 9 slaves,1 treb and 22g.Mongol's up Theology and Gunpowder,so it's time for peace.We got Theology and Gunpowder for 38gpt.Temujin says we're gracious,but he's still furious.Boy,Viking has neither Iron nor Salt,we have salt SE to Madras.Start on Education,due in 21t.
IBT:English asked for continuing peace treaty,I declined.
Turn 8:780AD,moving troops to Karakorum.Mongols start Sistine in capital.
Turn 9:790AD,capture Karakorum,kill English warrior and LB.
IBT:Viking renew the peace treaty,I signed,not in a great shape of war.
Turn 10:800AD,before plarq's retirement,capture Birmingham,spot Viking horse.
Summary:we are locked peace with Mongols and Vikings,it's tough,and we need to contact the other continent before our trashed reputation is learned by them,Byzantine is dying to Romans,and Inca is in great shape,that's what I had learned from F7 screen.
P.S. Pentagon is building in Bombay.
built.Salamanca holds WLTK(Mahatma)D.Palace expands.
Turn 6:760AD.Strike Ta-Tu with army,lose 1hp,kill two Pikes and a MDI,show two LBs and one Treb.In Karakorum,cats work wonderfully but the lone elephant died on LB.No troop in Karakorum now.So I decided to gift to English(Peace expires next turn),Gem offline.Teleport 4 cats and 1 slave to Delhi,is it magic?MM to prevent riots.
IBT:LB retreat Elephant,Incan complete KT at home.
Turn 7:770AD.Spice online.Elephant army strike three times,Capture Ta-Tu with 9 slaves,1 treb and 22g.Mongol's up Theology and Gunpowder,so it's time for peace.We got Theology and Gunpowder for 38gpt.Temujin says we're gracious,but he's still furious.Boy,Viking has neither Iron nor Salt,we have salt SE to Madras.Start on Education,due in 21t.
IBT:English asked for continuing peace treaty,I declined.
Turn 8:780AD,moving troops to Karakorum.Mongols start Sistine in capital.
Turn 9:790AD,capture Karakorum,kill English warrior and LB.
IBT:Viking renew the peace treaty,I signed,not in a great shape of war.
Turn 10:800AD,before plarq's retirement,capture Birmingham,spot Viking horse.
Summary:we are locked peace with Mongols and Vikings,it's tough,and we need to contact the other continent before our trashed reputation is learned by them,Byzantine is dying to Romans,and Inca is in great shape,that's what I had learned from F7 screen.
P.S. Pentagon is building in Bombay.
eldar
ChiefTank
Nice job plarq!
Gotcha! I have the save, will play this evening. As for Trebs vs Cats, I couldn't agree more. I really think Metallurgy for Cannons should be our next research goal - we don't want Educatin' 'til we have the continent in our grasp, just for the automatic border expansion we get from the ToA. It also is giving us a nice culture boost that should go towards flip-proofing across the pond.
Neil.
scoutsout said:
Gotcha! I have the save, will play this evening. As for Trebs vs Cats, I couldn't agree more. I really think Metallurgy for Cannons should be our next research goal - we don't want Educatin' 'til we have the continent in our grasp, just for the automatic border expansion we get from the ToA. It also is giving us a nice culture boost that should go towards flip-proofing across the pond.
Neil.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
That reminds me... since we'll lose all those temples when ToA expires, do we want to queue up some cathedrals while we've still got all these free Temples? (@Bede: I hope that didn't upset your stomach too badly...)eldar said:
eldar
ChiefTank
Okay - so I have an immediate choice and I'd like opinions, please:
1. Quit researching Education, which has had 3 turns' worth of GA gold so far, and switch to Chem->Metal->MilTrad.
2. Continue with Education, and lost the ToA a lot sooner.
[Edit] 3. Where Oh Where can I get the graphics mods that put little Happy or Sad faces on Citizen pictures?
Neil.
1. Quit researching Education, which has had 3 turns' worth of GA gold so far, and switch to Chem->Metal->MilTrad.
2. Continue with Education, and lost the ToA a lot sooner.
[Edit] 3. Where Oh Where can I get the graphics mods that put little Happy or Sad faces on Citizen pictures?
Neil.
eldar
ChiefTank
Thanks.
Nearly done with my set, but I made a couple of monumental cock-ups... not least was breaking a deal to move Almarikh away from the Volcano, and then not being able to re-found because of a border expansion the abandoning triggered! I need to hide away for a few days after that, I think...
(I've spotted Byzantine borders, though!)
Neil.
Nearly done with my set, but I made a couple of monumental cock-ups... not least was breaking a deal to move Almarikh away from the Volcano, and then not being able to re-found because of a border expansion the abandoning triggered! I need to hide away for a few days after that, I think...
(I've spotted Byzantine borders, though!)
Neil.
eldar
ChiefTank
Okay, first, the (only) good news:
Oh, okay, signed peace with England for her two remaining cities and some gold. That was okay.
Right, now the gory, grisly, details of how I messed up the Mongol situation:
Well, first, given we had 20 turns of peace, I figured, sell some Luxes for gpt. So I did. Then, I decided: move Almarikh from the volcano. So I abandoned Almarikh, the Mongol borders swallowed the new settling spot, and I'd broken the deal for Spices into the bargain. Put a city back where Almarikh was next turn, then re-sold the Spices! So that's another 4 turns, unless the Mongols keep tramping forces into our territory - they moved out the only time the 'declare war' option was given, though.
Other than that, little to report:
Kept going at Education - we'd spent 203 beakers so far, didn't want to waste them with a switch. So I've built some Cathedrals, rushed a couple down South, and upped Sci after the GA ended. Currently Edu in 3 at +77gpt.
Built up forces, built a lot of boats - we should load some units onto southbound boats to take to the city we got from England, plus a few more to take to Auckland to bolster the two Eles I've put there already.
Vikes are up Chem. We get Edu, sell them it for Chem, I reckon. We can sell Chem to Inca as well. Let's check:
They'll sell Chem for 1600g - not worth it, I reckon. There's also a chance to get them to declare on us, if you want to go that route (Galley in the large bay north of former England).
>>> SAVE <<<
If ever there was a case of replaying to do better, I think this turnset is a good a one as any....
Neil.
Oh, okay, signed peace with England for her two remaining cities and some gold. That was okay.
Right, now the gory, grisly, details of how I messed up the Mongol situation:
Well, first, given we had 20 turns of peace, I figured, sell some Luxes for gpt. So I did. Then, I decided: move Almarikh from the volcano. So I abandoned Almarikh, the Mongol borders swallowed the new settling spot, and I'd broken the deal for Spices into the bargain. Put a city back where Almarikh was next turn, then re-sold the Spices! So that's another 4 turns, unless the Mongols keep tramping forces into our territory - they moved out the only time the 'declare war' option was given, though.
Other than that, little to report:
Kept going at Education - we'd spent 203 beakers so far, didn't want to waste them with a switch. So I've built some Cathedrals, rushed a couple down South, and upped Sci after the GA ended. Currently Edu in 3 at +77gpt.
Built up forces, built a lot of boats - we should load some units onto southbound boats to take to the city we got from England, plus a few more to take to Auckland to bolster the two Eles I've put there already.
Vikes are up Chem. We get Edu, sell them it for Chem, I reckon. We can sell Chem to Inca as well. Let's check:
They'll sell Chem for 1600g - not worth it, I reckon. There's also a chance to get them to declare on us, if you want to go that route (Galley in the large bay north of former England).
>>> SAVE <<<
If ever there was a case of replaying to do better, I think this turnset is a good a one as any....
Neil.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
...okay - first off - I don't think we necessarily needed to finish cathedrals before education, just get them started. And any Temples that were actually 'built' will remain. Only the ToA freebies go away...
Part of getting better is resisting the temptation to reload. It sounds like you learned a tough lesson on the abandoning thing. Attention to detail can really bite sometime... and I'm not sure whether I would have caught that myself or not.eldar said:
eldar
ChiefTank
Playing C/GOTM got me out of the re-loading habit. As for the rest... well, my brain's just not wired right this evening.
scoutsout
Minstrel Boy
I wouldn't sweat it eldar. You had plenty of us egging you on to do that abandon/resettle thing. Not your fault.
Who's up?
Who's up?
eldar
ChiefTank
Yeah, but at Barca, not Almarikh... Viper's next, I believe
Then either your good self or Bede.
Anyway, this time tomorrow, I'll be on your time zone, getting set to enjoy the turkey & beer on Thursday. With the in-laws, though.
Neil.
Then either your good self or Bede.
Anyway, this time tomorrow, I'll be on your time zone, getting set to enjoy the turkey & beer on Thursday. With the in-laws, though.
Neil.
Preturn- OK
IBT- Galley sinks. When we get contact trading we'll know everyone else.
1
Science to 50%, Education in 1 turn. AIs have Chemistry so Education will help us in trading.
IBT- Education==>Banking (we want Smith's right?) Some boats sink.
2
Buy Chemistry and seven gold from Scandinavia for Education. Banking and 6 gold from the Inca for Chemistry. Science to 60%, Sistine Chapel prebuild for Smith's in Delhi. Build a couple banks, later to be universities.
6
Ragnar has Metallurgy but doesn't want to trade unless we give up lots of gold, 1135 to be exact. Normally I'd say no, but with the way trebs are helping us I think it's worth it.
IBT- A boat doesn't sink!!! We have made it to the other continent safely! Contact Rome, we're up Monotheism and Chemistry.
7
IBT- Khan wants to renegociate peace. I guess we can. Maybe that was a bad decision.
9
Get Astronomy and 25 gold from the Inca for Metallurgy. Almost forgot, how about Copernicus' Observatory in Calcutta? If we want it in the capital it may get taken. I started it, can be changed to bank/university if desired.
IBT- Economics==>Military Tradition.
Not many thoughts. Can change Military Tradition to something else if we want.
IBT- Galley sinks. When we get contact trading we'll know everyone else.
1
Science to 50%, Education in 1 turn. AIs have Chemistry so Education will help us in trading.
IBT- Education==>Banking (we want Smith's right?) Some boats sink.
2
Buy Chemistry and seven gold from Scandinavia for Education. Banking and 6 gold from the Inca for Chemistry. Science to 60%, Sistine Chapel prebuild for Smith's in Delhi. Build a couple banks, later to be universities.
6
Ragnar has Metallurgy but doesn't want to trade unless we give up lots of gold, 1135 to be exact. Normally I'd say no, but with the way trebs are helping us I think it's worth it.
IBT- A boat doesn't sink!!! We have made it to the other continent safely! Contact Rome, we're up Monotheism and Chemistry.
7
IBT- Khan wants to renegociate peace. I guess we can. Maybe that was a bad decision.
9
Get Astronomy and 25 gold from the Inca for Metallurgy. Almost forgot, how about Copernicus' Observatory in Calcutta? If we want it in the capital it may get taken. I started it, can be changed to bank/university if desired.
IBT- Economics==>Military Tradition.
Not many thoughts. Can change Military Tradition to something else if we want.
plarq
Crazy forever
Tech:We may need to keep Byzantine alive,for the free tech.Rome is backwards,Vikings and Incans are the only competitor of techs.Seeing our various territory,I'm quite sure that Coal,Oil and Rubber located in our empire.
Exploration:We may need to get contact with Byz soon,hope she's kept alive.
War:Vikings are targeted for next war.After expiration of Barcelona Great Wall,Muskets are not enough to defeat Amphious Berserks,we may need a small navy to beat them in the sea before raiding.
Victory:Conquest,domination,Space,Culture...but domination probably.
Exploration:We may need to get contact with Byz soon,hope she's kept alive.
War:Vikings are targeted for next war.After expiration of Barcelona Great Wall,Muskets are not enough to defeat Amphious Berserks,we may need a small navy to beat them in the sea before raiding.
Victory:Conquest,domination,Space,Culture...but domination probably.
