Alfonso
Chieftain
Thanks
I agree
Originally posted by Longasc
I especially like El Cid...
Originally posted by Longasc
One thing: A Coruña -> I only know La Coruna, soccer club. Deportivo La Coruna or so..
Yes, also is correct: La Coruña.Yes!
Errors in city's names?
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I agree
Yes, also is correct: La Coruña.Yes!
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Just give me a shout ~ "Gib einfach Bescheid"
Since both of us seem to be German, the one could do the cities, the other one the leaders. Or any other combination, just as you like.
And, maybe, we could do that for the Austrian as well...
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
Just a FYI, Calgacus did something like that a long time ago already, and gathered city and IIRC MGL names for all possible and impossible Civs (including Liechtenstein 
), so there's no real need to do this a second time.
And the German MGL list is already (slightly) improved in c3c, since they added Rommel. The SGL list for us is rather supereb IMHO, containing even Röntgen with the umlaut. Btw, surprisingly the city list of the German Civ version is pretty good, just listing cities by size!
), so there's no real need to do this a second time.And the German MGL list is already (slightly) improved in c3c, since they added Rommel. The SGL list for us is rather supereb IMHO, containing even Röntgen with the umlaut. Btw, surprisingly the city list of the German Civ version is pretty good, just listing cities by size!
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Originally posted by Doc Tsiolkovski
Just a FYI, Calgacus did something like that a long time ago already, and gathered city and IIRC MGL names for all possible and impossible Civs (including Liechtenstein
And the German MGL list is already (slightly) improved in c3c, since they added Rommel. The SGL list for us is rather supereb IMHO, containing even Röntgen with the umlaut. Btw, surprisingly the city list of the German Civ version is pretty good, just listing cities by size!
About the SGLs I agree. But Cologne (Köln) just behind Nuremberg (Nürnberg)??? And Leipzig bigger than Hamburg???
And who have been Hengest and Horsa??? I would understand, if they'd listed Gneisenau, Scharnhorst, Moltke, Stein, Wallenstein, Zieten, Pappenheim...
I think these two are meant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hengest
Hengest or Hengist (?-488) was ruler of Kent, England. The facts of his life are unknown, but according to Bede (writing nearly 200 years after the events in question), he and his brother Horsa were mercenaries for Vortigern, hired to fight against the Picts. Following his victories over the Picts, Hengest invited more immigrants from Germany to settle in Britain, turned on Vortigern, and established himself as king.
The actual historical existence of both Hengest and Horsa has been called into question numerous times, with many historians labeling these two as legendary 'divine twins' along the order of Romulus and Remus. It is perhaps more likely that Hengest, meaning 'Stallion', was an honorific for an actual warlord, while Horsa was a later accretion to the story, perhaps as a misreading of a gloss in a manuscript that was written to define the name Hengest as meaning 'horse'.
Well, it seems like Hengest came from Germany...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hengest
Hengest or Hengist (?-488) was ruler of Kent, England. The facts of his life are unknown, but according to Bede (writing nearly 200 years after the events in question), he and his brother Horsa were mercenaries for Vortigern, hired to fight against the Picts. Following his victories over the Picts, Hengest invited more immigrants from Germany to settle in Britain, turned on Vortigern, and established himself as king.
The actual historical existence of both Hengest and Horsa has been called into question numerous times, with many historians labeling these two as legendary 'divine twins' along the order of Romulus and Remus. It is perhaps more likely that Hengest, meaning 'Stallion', was an honorific for an actual warlord, while Horsa was a later accretion to the story, perhaps as a misreading of a gloss in a manuscript that was written to define the name Hengest as meaning 'horse'.
Well, it seems like Hengest came from Germany...
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
A short and quick search in Google seemed to reveal that Hengest (Hengist?) was either of germanic, danish or saxonian origin.
Anyway, he doesn't seem to be a good choice for a German leader, since when he entered the stage of history, the Germans were still just tribes.
Personally I think that prior to (at best) Charles the Great no historic person could be called a German leader, including Herman the Cherusk (spelling?). Even better, to start the search with the time of Ludwig the pious (or religious?). Anyway, starting with 843 AD, when the three sons of Charles divided the heritage between themselves.
Anyway, he doesn't seem to be a good choice for a German leader, since when he entered the stage of history, the Germans were still just tribes.
Personally I think that prior to (at best) Charles the Great no historic person could be called a German leader, including Herman the Cherusk (spelling?). Even better, to start the search with the time of Ludwig the pious (or religious?). Anyway, starting with 843 AD, when the three sons of Charles divided the heritage between themselves.
Heres an improved list of french cities. I used a set criteria whee each name must be significant for one reason or another - political; economic; cultural or military.
Paris
Rheims
Soissons
Poitiers
Montréal
Québec
Tours
Toulouse
Orleans
Bordeaux
Marseille
Chartres
Avignon
Lyon
Metz
Rouen
Dijon
Amiens
Strasbourg
Brest
Rennes
Nantes
Verdun
Besançon
Lille
Toulon
Le Havre
Agde
Nice
Foix
Montpellier
Cahors
Perpignan
Bourges
Caen
Le Mans
Angoulême
Clermont-Ferrand
Belfort
Agen
Troyes
Beauvais
Périgueux
(Montréal and Quebec are included as they are prominent french centres of culture. Although in Canada, this doesnt pose any problem as there is no Canadian civilisation in the game - so no clashes) (its a bit like how Luanda in Angola is included in the standard Portuguese list)
French leaders:
Bertrand du Guesclin
Napoléon
Saint Louis
De Gaulle
Philippe Auguste
Marechal Foch
(charlemagne deleted as he was not really "french" but frankish as his heritage is just as much german as it is french)(Richelieu deleted as he was no military leader but the kings advisor)
Scientists:
Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie
Blaise Pascal
Rene Descartes
Georges Buffon
Antoine Lavoisier
(lavoisier - physicist and buffon- biologist)
Paris
Rheims
Soissons
Poitiers
Montréal
Québec
Tours
Toulouse
Orleans
Bordeaux
Marseille
Chartres
Avignon
Lyon
Metz
Rouen
Dijon
Amiens
Strasbourg
Brest
Rennes
Nantes
Verdun
Besançon
Lille
Toulon
Le Havre
Agde
Nice
Foix
Montpellier
Cahors
Perpignan
Bourges
Caen
Le Mans
Angoulême
Clermont-Ferrand
Belfort
Agen
Troyes
Beauvais
Périgueux
(Montréal and Quebec are included as they are prominent french centres of culture. Although in Canada, this doesnt pose any problem as there is no Canadian civilisation in the game - so no clashes) (its a bit like how Luanda in Angola is included in the standard Portuguese list)
French leaders:
Bertrand du Guesclin
Napoléon
Saint Louis
De Gaulle
Philippe Auguste
Marechal Foch
(charlemagne deleted as he was not really "french" but frankish as his heritage is just as much german as it is french)(Richelieu deleted as he was no military leader but the kings advisor)
Scientists:
Louis Pasteur
Marie Curie
Blaise Pascal
Rene Descartes
Georges Buffon
Antoine Lavoisier
(lavoisier - physicist and buffon- biologist)
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Technically, Marie Curie wasn't French, she just married a Frenchman.
Another note, probably not of siginificance: The Indian city of Madras was recently renamed Chennai. This may be like the Vietnamese renaming Saigon to Ho Chi Minh City in that everyone still calls it Madras, I don't know, but I thought I'd mention it.
Another note, probably not of siginificance: The Indian city of Madras was recently renamed Chennai. This may be like the Vietnamese renaming Saigon to Ho Chi Minh City in that everyone still calls it Madras, I don't know, but I thought I'd mention it.
akots
Poet
I just looked a list of Russian scientific great leaders. They have two names which I see for the firstr time. First, Nick Holonyak. He was born in Illinois, lived all his life in US, never visited Russia apparently and never spoke a Russian word. This is really weird and has to be corrected. Another is Theremin. I could not understand who is that then finally it got to me that apparently they were implying Lev Termen. He was an inventor of musical instrument which is in English called Theremin (in Russian it is Termen-vox). This guy was indeed Russian but it is very hard to call him SGL or even great scientist at all. From Russian point of view, two other names to be added to the list instead of these two guys are Lomonosov and Kurchatov (nuclear/thermonuclear bomb) or Lev Landau (very famous Nobel laureate in Physics).
Surprizingly, Russian city names are more or less fine.
So there are many errors in Mid Seyer's Ciliviztatino 3 Cnockvest. Sorry for wrong spelling that.
Surprizingly, Russian city names are more or less fine.
So there are many errors in Mid Seyer's Ciliviztatino 3 Cnockvest. Sorry for wrong spelling that.
Commander Bello
Say No 2 Net Validations
Cities:
(I deleted some cities from this list, since they were only for a rather short time part of Germany [especially those in Elsass-Lothringia], have lost their status as independant administrative units or are just not more of importance)
01. Berlin
02. Hamburg
03. Dresden
04. Muenchen [Munich]
05. Leipzig
06. Breslau (now Polish)
07. Koeln [Cologne]
08. Frankfurt am Main [Frankfurt/M.]
09. Nuernberg [Nuremberg]
10. Duesseldorf
11. Hannover
12. Stuttgart
13. Chemnitz
14. Magdeburg
15. Charlottenburg
16. Essen
17. Stettin (now Polish)
18. Koenigsberg (now under Russian administration)
19. Bremen
20. Duisburg
21. Dortmund
22. Halle an der Saale [Halle/S.]
23. - deleted
24. - deleted
25. Kiel
26. Mannheim
27. - deleted
28. Danzig (now Polish)
29. - deleted
30. - deleted
31. Gelsenkirchen
32. Aachen
33. - deleted
34. Posen (now Polish)
35. Braunschweig
36. Kassel
37. Bochum
38. Karlsruhe
39. Krefeld
40. Plauen
41. Wiesbaden
42. Erfurt
43. Augsburg
44. - deleted
45. - deleted
46. Luebeck
47. Mainz
48. - deleted
49. Bonn
50. Muenster in Westfalen [Muenster/W.]
All cities taken from a list of the 100 biggest towns in the German Reich as of the head count of 1905.
a link to German history (English version): http://german.about.com/library/blhist_time01.htm
German MGL:
Scharnhorst
Gneisenau
Clausewitz
Boyen
Grolmann
Bluecher
Zieten
Wallenstein
Moltke
Guderian
Rommel
German SGL:
Konrad Roentgen (X-rays)
Rudolf Diesel (motor)
Graf Zeppelin (airships/blimps/dirigibles)
Robert Koch (physician)
Albertus Magnus (medieval philosophy)
Nikolaus Kopernikus (astronomy)
Johannes Gutenberg (printing)
G. W. Leibniz (called: the last universal scientist)
(I deleted some cities from this list, since they were only for a rather short time part of Germany [especially those in Elsass-Lothringia], have lost their status as independant administrative units or are just not more of importance)
01. Berlin
02. Hamburg
03. Dresden
04. Muenchen [Munich]
05. Leipzig
06. Breslau (now Polish)
07. Koeln [Cologne]
08. Frankfurt am Main [Frankfurt/M.]
09. Nuernberg [Nuremberg]
10. Duesseldorf
11. Hannover
12. Stuttgart
13. Chemnitz
14. Magdeburg
15. Charlottenburg
16. Essen
17. Stettin (now Polish)
18. Koenigsberg (now under Russian administration)
19. Bremen
20. Duisburg
21. Dortmund
22. Halle an der Saale [Halle/S.]
23. - deleted
24. - deleted
25. Kiel
26. Mannheim
27. - deleted
28. Danzig (now Polish)
29. - deleted
30. - deleted
31. Gelsenkirchen
32. Aachen
33. - deleted
34. Posen (now Polish)
35. Braunschweig
36. Kassel
37. Bochum
38. Karlsruhe
39. Krefeld
40. Plauen
41. Wiesbaden
42. Erfurt
43. Augsburg
44. - deleted
45. - deleted
46. Luebeck
47. Mainz
48. - deleted
49. Bonn
50. Muenster in Westfalen [Muenster/W.]
All cities taken from a list of the 100 biggest towns in the German Reich as of the head count of 1905.
a link to German history (English version): http://german.about.com/library/blhist_time01.htm
German MGL:
Scharnhorst
Gneisenau
Clausewitz
Boyen
Grolmann
Bluecher
Zieten
Wallenstein
Moltke
Guderian
Rommel
German SGL:
Konrad Roentgen (X-rays)
Rudolf Diesel (motor)
Graf Zeppelin (airships/blimps/dirigibles)
Robert Koch (physician)
Albertus Magnus (medieval philosophy)
Nikolaus Kopernikus (astronomy)
Johannes Gutenberg (printing)
G. W. Leibniz (called: the last universal scientist)
It's Edirne. First time I ever heard of Edrine was *thanks to* Firaxis
Why is Edirne so important? Well, together with Bursa and Istanbul, at some point, it served as the capital of the Ottoman Empire (before Constantinople was conquered).
Also, I think this is an easter egg, but if you play long enough with the Ottomans, and build all the cities, the last city is named "Not Constantinople". This doesn't appear in the city names list
It reminded me of the song "Istanbul, not Constantinople"
Why is Edirne so important? Well, together with Bursa and Istanbul, at some point, it served as the capital of the Ottoman Empire (before Constantinople was conquered).
Also, I think this is an easter egg, but if you play long enough with the Ottomans, and build all the cities, the last city is named "Not Constantinople". This doesn't appear in the city names list
It reminded me of the song "Istanbul, not Constantinople"
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
Re: Calgacus list - unfortunately, I cannot find them with the search function disabled, perhaps some one else knows how to locate it?
Re: German city names - The list in the RoW versions are ridiculous, no question, I was referring to the German version (at least the 1.21g patch for ptw supplied me with a proper list when installed on my RoW ptw version).
Re: MGLs - Horsa and Hengest are stupid. Aber warum ersetzt Ihr Preußen die ausschließlich mit Preußen oder Brandenburgern? (Translation - "internal German relations" Why only Prussians?)
My proposals: Hermann der Cherusker, Ludwig der Bayer, Barbarossa, Wallenstein, Blücher, Richthofen, Rommel
And the SGLs: Why does everyone removes Fritz Haber? The man did invent the Fertilizer, Gas Warfare, lots of explosive (unintentionally, they use the same chemical process as the fertilizer). He definitely is one of the most important Chemists ever, but since he was Jewish, he 'dropped' off public memory. Clearly a by far more important scientist than Diesel or Zeppelin.
Re: German city names - The list in the RoW versions are ridiculous, no question, I was referring to the German version (at least the 1.21g patch for ptw supplied me with a proper list when installed on my RoW ptw version).
Re: MGLs - Horsa and Hengest are stupid. Aber warum ersetzt Ihr Preußen die ausschließlich mit Preußen oder Brandenburgern? (Translation - "internal German relations" Why only Prussians?)
My proposals: Hermann der Cherusker, Ludwig der Bayer, Barbarossa, Wallenstein, Blücher, Richthofen, Rommel
And the SGLs: Why does everyone removes Fritz Haber? The man did invent the Fertilizer, Gas Warfare, lots of explosive (unintentionally, they use the same chemical process as the fertilizer). He definitely is one of the most important Chemists ever, but since he was Jewish, he 'dropped' off public memory. Clearly a by far more important scientist than Diesel or Zeppelin.
I thought, too, that Commander Bellos selected perhaps too much Prussians. A little bias on this side perhaps.
It is also not fair to call everyone a Prussian. I am from Franconia, we are very particular about not to be mixed up with Bavarians - or Prussians, even worse!
It is also not fair to call everyone a Prussian. I am from Franconia, we are very particular about not to be mixed up with Bavarians - or Prussians, even worse!
Doc Tsiolkovski
Deity
Hey, me too! Würzburg, to be exact.
Just thought you where from Bonn for any reason
Just thought you where from Bonn for any reason
Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
I have descoveried another error:
Oporto is Porto
In Portuguese cities the list is not very good. Here is a short list-
Lisboa
Porto
Faro
Coimbra
Setúbal
Aveiro
Braga
Beja
Évora
Bragança
Guimarães
Vila Real
Guarda
Castelo Branco
Santarém
Sagres
Lagos
Tavira
Silves
Sines
Cartaxo
Oporto is Porto
In Portuguese cities the list is not very good. Here is a short list-
Lisboa
Porto
Faro
Coimbra
Setúbal
Aveiro
Braga
Beja
Évora
Bragança
Guimarães
Vila Real
Guarda
Castelo Branco
Santarém
Sagres
Lagos
Tavira
Silves
Sines
Cartaxo
Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
I have descoveried another error:
Oporto is Porto
In Portuguese cities the list is not very good. Here is a short list-
Lisboa
Porto
Faro
Coimbra
Setúbal
Aveiro
Braga
Beja
Évora
Bragança
Guimarães
Vila Real
Guarda
Castelo Branco
Santarém
Sagres
Lagos
Tavira
Silves
Sines
Cartaxo
Oporto is Porto
In Portuguese cities the list is not very good. Here is a short list-
Lisboa
Porto
Faro
Coimbra
Setúbal
Aveiro
Braga
Beja
Évora
Bragança
Guimarães
Vila Real
Guarda
Castelo Branco
Santarém
Sagres
Lagos
Tavira
Silves
Sines
Cartaxo
Lord_Sidious
No Fun At All
Sorry double post
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