Establishing a second embassy

Where should our 2nd embassy be?


  • Total voters
    20

blackheart

unenlightened
Joined
Jul 22, 2004
Messages
8,633
Location
Chicago
Where would you like our second (and only our second) embassy to be established?

I would choose Rome, war with the Iroquois seems imminent and the Romans could become our allies in the war.

Rome - 30g
France - 48g
Babylon - 30g
Zululand - 39g
Abstainia - Free

Our current treasury is 161 gold and we are losing 2 gold a turn.
 
Do we have any discussion on this? What are the advantages of a Babylonian Embassy over one in the aggressive Zulu nation?
 
Reasons are in the the first embassy thread. As i said we should improved relationship with Rome.
 
Cyc said:
Do we have any discussion on this? What are the advantages of a Babylonian Embassy over one in the aggressive Zulu nation?

There was no previous discussion for a second embassy, only a first one. The reason for a Babylonian embassy is because their troops are moving towards our borders while the Zulu have remained silent and are still polite, while the Babylonians are annoyed with us.
 
Ok I took a closer look at the save and I realized that the Babylonians are only sending settlers towards us. If I could I would change my vote for the Romans. War with the Iroquois seems imminent and the Romans could become our allies in the war.
 
Blackheart:

I am glad you are so enthousiastic about polling for embassies. But posting polls isn't as easy as it appears. I'm not claiming I can post good polls, but I do have more experience in it.

How I would have posted this poll:

1 - The question you want polled. I think your question: "Where would you like our second (and only our second) embassy to be established?" is too much leaning one way. I would have formulated it less leaning. Something like: "We've set up an embassy with the Iroquois. Do we want to set up more Embassies ?"

2 - Background information. In your poll I'm sailing blindly on what it would cost us, how much money we have to spend, what nations are up on us and what nations are down on us etc.
For instance:

"We have 161 gold, making -2 gpt. We have 7 cities and 3 settlers ready.

Rome has 1 gold, 6 cities, are annoyed with us and are down Polytheism. An Embassy would cost us 30 gold. We have explored their complete capital, so no extra map-info is gained."

Babylon has ...
etc.

3 - Clear and smart options, which answer the question polled, in a logical order.
* No, we don't want more embassies yet.
* Yes, but with only 1 more nation.
* Yes, with 2 more nations.
* Yes, with 3 more nations.
* Yes, with every nation we currently know. This will cost us XXX gold.
* Abstain.

4 - If you choose this setup; only 1 extra poll is needed (let's assume 1,2 or 3 nation - embassy wins). A multiple option poll stating all possible nations we can have an embassy with and the voters are allowed to vote for the number that won. Let's say "Yes, with 3 more nations." won, then in the next poll the citizens can vote for 3 seperate nations.
 
Rik Meleet said:
Blackheart:

I am glad you are so enthousiastic about polling for embassies. But posting polls isn't as easy as it appears. I'm not claiming I can post good polls, but I do have more experience in it.

How I would have posted this poll:

1 - The question you want polled. I think your question: "Where would you like our second (and only our second) embassy to be established?" is too much leaning one way. I would have formulated it less leaning. Something like: "We've set up an embassy with the Iroquois. Do we want to set up more Embassies ?"

2 - Background information. In your poll I'm sailing blindly on what it would cost us, how much money we have to spend, what nations are up on us and what nations are down on us etc.
For instance:

"We have 161 gold, making -2 gpt. We have 7 cities and 3 settlers ready.

Rome has 1 gold, 6 cities, are annoyed with us and are down Polytheism. An Embassy would cost us 30 gold. We have explored their complete capital, so no extra map-info is gained."

Babylon has ...
etc.

3 - Clear and smart options, which answer the question polled, in a logical order.
* No, we don't want more embassies yet.
* Yes, but with only 1 more nation.
* Yes, with 2 more nations.
* Yes, with 3 more nations.
* Yes, with every nation we currently know. This will cost us XXX gold.
* Abstain.

4 - If you choose this setup; only 1 extra poll is needed (let's assume 1,2 or 3 nation - embassy wins). A multiple option poll stating all possible nations we can have an embassy with and the voters are allowed to vote for the number that won. Let's say "Yes, with 3 more nations." won, then in the next poll the citizens can vote for 3 seperate nations.

Thank you for you suggestions, I will keep them in mind. I'm planning to have embassies with every nation eventually, but plan to spread out the building of embassies over several turnchats so we do not waste our resources.
 
blackheart said:
Thank you for you suggestions, I will keep them in mind. I'm planning to have embassies with every nation eventually, but plan to spread out the building of embassies over several turnchats so we do not waste our resources.
But that is not your decision; it's the people's. Have you asked whether the people want you to spread it out over several turnchats?
 
Rik Meleet said:
But that is not your decision; it's the people's. Have you asked whether the people want you to spread it out over several turnchats?

I believe I was elected to plan and implement a strategy, not to ask the people about every decision I make. I leave the big decisions (like this one) up to the citizens. When I make strategies I take the future of Japanatica into mind. The people elected a leader, not a follower.
 
blackheart said:
I believe I was elected to plan and implement a strategy, not to ask the people about every decision I make. I leave the big decisions (like this one) up to the citizens. When I make strategies I take the future of Japanatica into mind. The people elected a leader, not a follower.
i would warn you that, if you dont post a poll someone will. and even if you dont start a poll, that poll is still classified as the will of the people
 
Black_Hole said:
i would warn you that, if you dont post a poll someone will. and even if you dont start a poll, that poll is still classified as the will of the people

What poll are you talking about? I do and will poll the cititzens on big decisions.
 
blackheart said:
What poll are you talking about? I do and will poll the cititzens on big decisions.
im talgking about polls in general, i was just warning you
 
Rome, then Babylon. We can pile up on the Iroquois if we have to.
 
I think we need to save our gold for upgrading warriors -> swordsmen. And that means no emassies just yet.
 
Back
Top Bottom