Aggie
Deity
Hitro said:
I know. I know
Euro 2004: Group D
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I know. I know
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
Nedved has said he is not going to play against the Germans 
This is so sad...
This is so sad...
willemvanoranje
Curitibano
What the hell was Advocaat thinking??? What the hell was that referee doing on the pitch? Nistelrooy deserved two penalties (not that it matters, we're Dutch...)! I'm too tired to start explaining the obvious. Bosvelt for Robben.... how crazy can you be. And afterwards he gets mad if the press say he's the one to blame...
for all the Dutch, if you know Hans Teeuwen:
for all the Dutch, if you know Hans Teeuwen:
Advocaat, Advocaat,
je kunt nu blijven zitten maar 't is beter als je gaat.
Advocaat, Advocaat,
je redt het niet als trainer met alleen een haarimplantaat.
Dick hoor mij, Dick hoor mij,
zestien miljoen bondscoaches weten het beter dan jij.
IJsbergsla, IJsbergsla,
Advocaat bondscoach maken voor het EK.
Middenveldruit, middenveldruit,
Bosvelt er in, en Robben er uit.
(AdvocaatZwarte Piet, Zwarte Piet,
het falen lag aan hen ikke deed het niet.
Snelkookpan, snelkookpan,
behoudend spelen daar winnen we dus niet van.
jack merchant
Internationalist
WS78 said:Why Bosvelt?
Why not Overmars, Makaay, Kluivert or Zenden even?
Why substitute Robben for a 2nd rate player?
Why?
Because our national coach is a complete moron, that's why. No Dutch team ever sat succesfully on a lead. and he just wanted to continue the tradition
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AceChilla
Goedheiligman
Good one Willem 
But I can't laugh about it at this moment
But I can't laugh about it at this moment
Evertonian
Bluenose
Well done to the Czeck Republic, commiserations to the Dutch, it was great game, easily the best of the tournament so far.
I guess Holland's future in the competition depends on how seriously the Czecks take their final game against Germany, considering they have already won the group.
I guess Holland's future in the competition depends on how seriously the Czecks take their final game against Germany, considering they have already won the group.
jack merchant
Internationalist
Just like us to play in the greatest games, then lose. Shades of 1994 (vs Brazil) & 1998 (vs Argentina - of course, we postponed losing there)...
AVN
Deity
Evertonian said:
IMO the Czechs don't take their last game serious, for example Nedved (the best Czechian player) will not participate in that game. And probably some other good players will not play in that game too.
And to be honest I can't blame them.
So I think that the chances of the Dutch team to go to the quarter finals are very low.
The Dutch team played well in the first half of this game. The only other time (during the qualification rounds ) I have seen playing them so well was in the play-off against Scotland (we won that game with 6-0).
In all other qualification games and in our game against Germany we played bad. IMO we have to blame our coach for that.
The Netherlands has several good attackers. That's our strong point, whereas our defense is a weaker point. This means that we have to concentrate on the attack and minimise the number of attacks of the opposing country. Unfortunately Advocaat doesn't still understand that.
(otherwise he wouldn't have substituted Robben).
After this tournament we really need a new bondscoach, with a good vision and who understands what the great possibilities of the Dutch team are.
Shabbaman
rebuffing the rebels
Aggie said:Advocaat is making a fool of himself now on Dutch television, trying to defend why he saw it correctly with Robben
Well...
I can see why he wanted to get Robben off... although he was playing really, really good, he's not 100% fit. But Overmars or Zenden would've been a good alternative. Especially Zenden could've played a more defending role. Bringing in hotlips Reiziger was cowardly... bringing in Van der Vaart for Seedorf was just...very weird. I would've expected pierre there.
Aggie
Deity
The day after. It's unreal to walk through Amsterdam, watch TV, listen to the radio, talk with your family. It's all about Advocaat and Robben. General consensus is that Advocaat should resign NOW. Even my mother agrees 
The people are in shock about it.
The people are in shock about it.
If he resigns, who should take over. Van Hanegem ? Wouters ? Krol ? Cruyff ? Van Gaal? Koeman? Hiddink?
Who will coach the way the dutch team needs to be coached ?
Who will coach the way the dutch team needs to be coached ?
Shabbaman
rebuffing the rebels
Aggie said:
Yeah, and it's only sunday... there might be riots in the streets tomorrow. But hey, Germany has to beat Czech Republic B first
(wishful thinking...) 
Nederland is out. It's happening often, these times, that the better team goes out (like Spain in group A) and the worst wins (Germany will have an easy win, even if they sucked versus Latvia)
My hopes are back up after I heard Cocu point out that the Czechs prefer the Dutch to go to the Quarter-finals and not the Germans. The Dutch play-style suits the Czechs better, and that is true. They can win from the Dutch easier than from the Germans. So I expect Czech-Germany 0-0.
Now only Holland has to do is beat the Latvians...
Now only Holland has to do is beat the Latvians...
AceChilla
Goedheiligman
2/3 of the Chech players play in the Bundesliga, they are going to let the Germans win.
