Euro 2004: Group D

Hitro said:
Good point. Van Hooijdonk and Overmars should both be. Or shouldn't, depending on the viewpoint.

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Good point Big Pierre is a class player I found it slightly ironic that an Ex- Celtic player helped saved the blush's of the wee ex hun manager.

I enjoyed the game and felt Germany were a tad unlucky not to get all three points, Ballack had a storming game and was disappointed in the Dutch.
Time for them to get a new manager once the Czechs knock them out !,
 
I'm afraid the Dutch confirmed the cliche - the players weren't talking to each other, literally, which could be a problem. Compare Kahn and vdSar organising their defences at set pieces, for instance...
I can see Portugal and Italy both pulling a strop and throwing it all away againct inferior opposition, just like in Korea, and Holland joining them.

@Stapel, you still need to change that signature. Enjoy the game, though.
 
bholed said:
Good point Big Pierre is a class player I found it slightly ironic that an Ex- Celtic player helped saved the blush's of the wee ex hun manager.

Van Hooijdonck doesn't know what loyalty is. His heart is where the money can be found. He is a class player though. A real pity Frisk didn't let him take that free kick again, after that the german wall moved to 6,5 metres at most...
 
Shabbaman said:
Van Hooijdonck doesn't know what loyalty is. His heart is where the money can be found. He is a class player though. A real pity Frisk didn't let him take that free kick again, after that the german wall moved to 6,5 metres at most...

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Your totally right superb player but a total mercenary, and one of the best Free kick takers around, would easily put Beckham in his place.


Hope he starts for the Dutch next game and I can cheer him on again, thou going by last nights performance you boys are
out.
 
Dr Jimbo said:
I'm afraid the Dutch confirmed the cliche - the players weren't talking to each other, literally, which could be a problem. Compare Kahn and vdSar organising their defences at set pieces, for instance...
I can see Portugal and Italy both pulling a strop and throwing it all away againct inferior opposition, just like in Korea, and Holland joining them.

@Stapel, you still need to change that signature. Enjoy the game, though.


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Fair point DJ thou Italy were robbed in the world cup!
 
I find it hard to ever like him after the way he behaved at Nottingham Forest.
 
@Hitro:
Do you think Völler is gonna play two strikers, Kuranyi and possibly Bobic, agaist Latvia to try to win by a bigger margin than the Czechs? Or is Germany's novel 4-1-4-1 to rule from now on?
 
Hmm... For this game perhaps it is an acceptable choice, but I think Baumann is much better than Hamann and can cover his position if necessary.
 
bholed said:
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Fair point DJ thou Italy were robbed in the world cup!
Yeah, but it was the most enjoyable mugging I've ever watched
 
Hamann is that kind of player who never seems to do the spectacular work but is always there to link play together or break up the opposition's attack. Most sides find it essential to have that kind of player somewhere in midfield.
 
I was impressed with Hamann and Germany's ability to hold onto the ball. They didn't give away cheap possession for the first 70 minutes, but the full 90 looked beyond this aging German team
 
col said:
I find it hard to ever like him after the way he behaved at Nottingham Forest.

what happened?
 
He was signed by Forest who paid him a lot of money. After about 10 games into the season, he decided that the team werent doing well and werent good enough. He then refused to play for them at all although he inisted on being paid each month. He refused to honour his contract and rubbished his teammates. Not done.
 
col said:
He was signed by Forest who paid him a lot of money. After about 10 games into the season, he decided that the team werent doing well and werent good enough. He then refused to play for them at all although he inisted on being paid each month. He refused to honour his contract and rubbished his teammates. Not done.

He refused to play? :confused: can't a club fire a player then
 
Thats what he wanted them to do... Fire him so that he could move to another club...
 
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