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King of Kings
pardon me, but what is your point?
A) does not count for meDubhghaill said:A) Ireland is not British, a slip on your part for sure but we're in to treacherous waters here
B) Living in Canada 10 minutes outside of a Mohawk reservation (making many of my friends Mohawk) teaches me NA or First Nations is better than Indian for all concerns
C) No, Canada should not be a civilization, because we have nothing unique about us beyond our British humour, and politeness (which I think would be hard to infuse into the game)
D) Has anyone considered the Minoan civilization? Amazingly strong economy but no interest in military, that would be pretty cool.
what, surrounded by enemies? How could you call your neighbors enemies? We dont even share border with you. What kind of enemies do you have? Laos, Cambodia, Burma, lol
1700 when Emperor Quang Trung defeated 500.000 Siam's troops at rivers Rach Gam and Xoai Mut
Chinese for thousands years, Mongols, French, American, all were super powers at times
What would Siam look like, had they not hid behind their boss's back, the American
so-called "Venice of the east". Saigon was also "pearl of the east", but who cares
are your leaders well-known than Ho Chi Minh, Vo Nguyen Giap, Tran Hung Dao,
what it your strength anyway?
But Viet have bought all best Thai's footballer (incl. Thai's Zico) and i'm sure they would rather play football in Vietnam than in Thailand . And most important, we do respect ourself and dont need respect from "the Europeans" like you guys
Congratulations, you've changed my mind (when was the last time you read THAT on the internet?).
In fact they have the longest unbroken royal line; going all the way back to the fabled Menelik - the scion of the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon. I think however there is room in Civ for more than two African Civs, and yes Khemet (e.g. Egypt) is an African civ. Africa is the second largest continent, so there should be at least 4-5 civs representative of their historical, regional and economic importance. Therefore in my opinion you would have Khemet, Axum/Abyssinia, Carthage, Mali and Zulu. In unmodded Civ III and Civ IV you are stuck with just 1 1/2 African civs (Cleopatra's bastard Greek/Egypt and Zulu; Hatshepsut's Khemet and Mansa Mausa's Mali respectively) as compared to modded civ where you have additions to the African, Asian and Meso-American Civ lists.Xineoph said:Are you talking about Israel? Even without religion, it deserves to be in the game.
Although i am not really happy with Mali, I would much rather prefer Ethiopia. As because, as far as i can remember, it was the only African country to not be colonized, and is a continuously existing civilization.
It's peak, might be that of the Axumites.
Ankenaton said:In fact they have the longest unbroken royal line; going all the way back to the fabled Menelik - the scion of the Queen of Sheba and King Solomon. I think however there is room in Civ for more than two African Civs, and yes Khemet (e.g. Egypt) is an African civ. Africa is the second largest continent, so there should be at least 4-5 civs representative of their historical, regional and economic importance. Therefore in my opinion you would have Khemet, Axum/Abyssinia, Carthage, Mali and Zulu. In unmodded Civ III and Civ IV you are stuck with just 1 1/2 African civs (Cleopatra's bastard Greek/Egypt and Zulu; Hatshepsut's Khemet and Mansa Mausa's Mali respectively) as compared to modded civ where you have additions to the African, Asian and Meso-American Civ lists.
loui89 said:Country that saved Europe from imprisonment of German barbarism in WW1 and WW2.
loui89 said:Was a country that was never conquered, unlike a few... France, Germany, Poland, etc.
loui89 said:Today has the most culturally diversed city in the world, London.
GenFX said:You mean the United States? In WWI the UK was as much the problem as the solution... and sticking it to Germany after WWI did not work out so well.
WWII the UK was admirable, but could never truely project any power. But I still give high marks to the UK for standing the onslaught... Churchill shoud definitely be a leader for England.
England was conquered a couple of times, just not since the Barouque era... and even then this was not terribly bloody as far as those things go.
Agreed, though the Muslim protests and subway bombings might not suggest a harmonic diversity...
GenFX said:You mean the United States? In WWI the UK was as much the problem as the solution... and sticking it to Germany after WWI did not work out so well.
WWII the UK was admirable, but could never truely project any power. But I still give high marks to the UK for standing the onslaught... Churchill shoud definitely be a leader for England.
England was conquered a couple of times, just not since the Barouque era... and even then this was not terribly bloody as far as those things go.
Agreed, though the Muslim protests and subway bombings might not suggest a harmonic diversity...
Ok, I don't know a whole lot about the history of Britain/England, so I honestly have to ask...what practical difference would there be between the two? For example, if the English UU is already the British Redcoat, what would the British UU be?loui89 said:Looking at a few things, it would actually be far more better to have Britain than England, or maybe both. I came to this thought, when it crept up on me just how important britain was to world history.
Artanis said:Ok, I don't know a whole lot about the history of Britain/England, so I honestly have to ask...what practical difference would there be between the two? For example, if the English UU is already the British Redcoat, what would the British UU be?
Basically, what I'm saying is that, at least to this ignorant American, it looks like Britain is already in the game, but Firaxis has just named it "England" for whatever reason. So to have "Britain" officially in the game, why would it take anything more than a simple re-labelling?