Expansion Civilizations

[pieter]

Can someone give me tips,
im new in civ 4 and im always losing.
Even schieftain is better then me.
And somethimes settler does deffeat me.

 

[TheLastOne36]

umm wrong topic?

 

[Sebiche]

umm if you foregot Macedon is a greek city state, Macedonia is a kingdom north of greece.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Macedon is not or has never been a city!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the kingdom of macedonia was ALWAYS united, from its origins!!!
its capital was Argos Orestikon, then Pella!!!!!

geez get your facts right dude

if anyone says macedon was a part of greece, or a city-state i will personally "see to it that they understand"

SO DO IT

 

[DirtyFunker]

Hi to All!

Can you guys please tell me how can i join multiplayer game? I've got enough practice!

 

[Samson]

Hi to All!

Can you guys please tell me how can i join multiplayer game? I've got enough practice!

First, wellcome to CFC

This is not really the best place to ask, and I am not sure what you are asking.

Do you mean Where can I find opponents for a multiplayer game? Try Civ Duel zone oppontent finding forum (another site, and this site probably has one but I cannot find it)
Do you mean How do I set up a multi player game? How far have you got? What sort of game do you fancy (PBEM, lan etc.)?

Another good place to ask yoiur questions is The quick questions thread

Sorry I cannot answer your question directly, but I am sure we can work it out.

 

[username Nr.1]

However, I can't help to comment. It is just very interesting how the history is taught in different countries, which facts are emphasized etc.

Brave to say, since it's mostly polish habbit to potray lithuanians as the minor one's in every situation possible

Especially, the names:
Lithuanian Gediminaiciai dynasty - I think it is only known in Lithuania by this name, elsewhere it goes by the name Jagiellonian dynasty (after Jogaila better known as Jagiello)....

It's not our consern how it's called elsewhere... Lithuania existed before you know and the dinasty started in 13th century, not with Jogaila becoming king of Poland. First was the Great duke Traidenis, then came duke Daumantas, duke Butegeidis, duke Pukuveras Butvydas, duke Vytenis, duke Gediminas, duke Jaunutis, dukes Algirdas and Kestutis and only then Jogaila, and since it's widely considered that Gediminas is the one who did the most for Lithuania, the dinasty was named after him.

Jonas Karolis Chodkevicius would be probably most surprised to hear or see his name written or spoken in this form. He actually was a Lithuanian nobleman who as many other nobleman from Lithuania, Ruthenia and Ukraine became completely polonized and never used a word in Lithuanian language. He actually called himself Jan Karol Chodkiewicz but most likely would use Latin version to in writting (most Polish/Lithuanian/Ukrainian nobleman at the time used Latin in writing and speaking) - Joannes Carolus ...

i'm not denying that they spoke in polish (not all of them), but most of them were refering to themselves as "gente Lituanus, natione Polonus".
Also there is no letter "w" in lithuanian alphabeth which is widely used in polish... ohh, and does names like Witold, Giedymin or Mindouwgh smth... say anything to you? poles are doint the same thing on a way bigger scale

And about Slavic why don't they just put in a civilization called Slavic? it's Poland, former Czechoslovakia, Russia, Former Yugoslavia, Baltics, kievans and Belorussians togather.

Balts are nothing close to beeing slavs, it's a completly separate group, way older than Germanics, slavs, romanics or anything else in Europe and as funny as it may sound, Albanians are the closest ones to us.

Poland has produced some of the Greatest leaders of all time. It was Polish King Jan Sobieski who led the german-polish-austrian force to save the siege of Vienna. King Ladislav II Jagiello who defeated the Teutonic Knights at Grumwald and Marshal Jozef Pilsudski who was the polish leader in the Bolshevek wars against russia. i know more about polish history then austrian history but i know that there is alot of things austria did.

Jogaila was a lithuanian and during the battle he was sitting in a tent on a hill far away from battle, The great duke Vytautas was leading both polish and lith' armies to victory... BTW, even Pilsudski was born and raised in the same old Lithuania

srry for offtopic, if it bothers anyone though, then know that i honestly dont care

 

[username Nr.1]

Anyway, back on topic...

It's ridiculous seeing how various countries that have a history of less than a 100 years like Finland or Canada are sugested, or even better - various pigmeys, indians and others who havent even "invented" a wheel by the 16th century when europeans came to them, or some islanders who built somewhere a "boat" and got stuck with it for couple milenia while eating one another at their spare time... Instead a country that stoped Mongols (who had like 70% of Euroasian continent conquered) receives little if no credit. Ahh what a hell, who cares, atleast give some to the Poland then and not some "got rich and famous because of Alies protecting their ass's after WW2" country

 

[WingedPaladin]

Ruler Suggestion: King Kamehameha the Great

Among the greatest seafarers were the Polynesians: Maoris, Tongans, Samoans, Tahitians, Fijians and Hawaiians. Other islands include the Cook Islands and Marquesas. Because Polynesians have inhabited the isles of the sea, they aren't written so much in the classroom history books, but they have a very rich history, polytheistic religion, and culture. They have been in the Pacific for THOUSANDS of years. Hawaii has been key in trading between the west and the east over the Pacific Ocean. King Kamehameha's birth was foretold and he fulfilled the legend of one who would unite all of the islands of Hawaii.

 

[Wytchmaster]

I know this is supposed to be a "real world" type of game, but I would like a bit of fantasy since most of the civs in the game are gone or never really had a chance at being a real world superpower anyway.

Myth Votes:

Atlantis - Many myths think they wer quite advanced for their time.
Camelot - My favorite legend.
Amazon (Matriarchy?) - Could have the ghost tibe's people as a unique unit.
Troy - Not sure if they found this one to be true yet... But they had walls, and killer archers.

I would like others to bring up any others that I have not mentioned ( I am terribly unfamiliar with Asian culture (with exception to a bit about Japan).

And I would love to see a Suarian race Survivors of the ELE that wiped out the Dino's! Course that might be a little too far fetched...

 

[andrewpandji]

Madagascar, Indonesia, Luxembourg and Martians*. Definately the martians.

*Don't let them fool you, we are being watched as I type this... eeek!
DISREGARD THIS POST, SILLY HUMANS. YOUR PLANET IS BELONG TO US.

yeah i agree! let Indonesia(my 2nd home country) be in Civ 4. Leader:Suharto and SBY personality *new*CORRUPT (+more gold and cities become dirtier more pollution more poverty) and Expansionist.Sepcial Unit is the special Militia (can be turned to an opposing side by bribery)
/ sarcasm intended

all in all indonesia sucks but it would be funny if it made to civ

 

[Swein Forkbeard]

I know this is supposed to be a "real world" type of game, but I would like a bit of fantasy since most of the civs in the game are gone or never really had a chance at being a real world superpower anyway.

Myth Votes:

Atlantis - Many myths think they wer quite advanced for their time.
Camelot - My favorite legend.
Amazon (Matriarchy?) - Could have the ghost tibe's people as a unique unit.
Troy - Not sure if they found this one to be true yet... But they had walls, and killer archers.

I would like others to bring up any others that I have not mentioned ( I am terribly unfamiliar with Asian culture (with exception to a bit about Japan).

And I would love to see a Suarian race Survivors of the ELE that wiped out the Dino's! Course that might be a little too far fetched...

Atlantis - They were fun to be back in Age of Mythology. They were a civilization geared towards expansion in that game.
Camelot - Would love to but can't happen
Amazon -
Troy - Was VERY real! Amra's modpack for Warlords has the Trojans as a new civ, so MAYBE they can come back.

 

[Sebiche]

actually, new archeologist discoveries show compelling evidence that Troy and the Trojan War could have existed

 

[Wytchmaster]

Its too bad that we have such a hard time finding evidence of our own people in such a short period of history (Compared to the dino's). Half the Ancient Wonders are even questionable... I actualy found were you can "request" Civs now. I honestly did not think they Firaxis would use any of those suggestions If I end up liking this game long enough, I may even take a stab at creating one myself, we'll see...

 

[TheLastOne36]

Ruler Suggestion: King Kamehameha the Great

Among the greatest seafarers were the Polynesians: Maoris, Tongans, Samoans, Tahitians, Fijians and Hawaiians. Other islands include the Cook Islands and Marquesas. Because Polynesians have inhabited the isles of the sea, they aren't written so much in the classroom history books, but they have a very rich history, polytheistic religion, and culture. They have been in the Pacific for THOUSANDS of years. Hawaii has been key in trading between the west and the east over the Pacific Ocean. King Kamehameha's birth was foretold and he fulfilled the legend of one who would unite all of the islands of Hawaii.

Thanks for suggesting the Polynesians again. They are now trying to come up with evidence that the Polynesians could've traveled to north and south america. If this is true then it be amazing, definitely civ 4 worthy, come on crossing the pacific in canoes to the Americas from Fiji or somewhere like that?

the evidence to support it is that some tribes in the pacific coast of north America (near LA) have the weapons and canoes that the Polynesian have and other natives do not. Same with south America. I believe that if it's proven that Polynesians did land in the Americas and there not in Civ 4, then I'll make a modding team and mod them in and make them OP. MWUAHHAHHAHA

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One problem is that i can't seem to recall any Polynesian war history.

Balts are nothing close to beeing slavs, it's a completly separate group, way older than Germanics, slavs, romanics or anything else in Europe and as funny as it may sound, Albanians are the closest ones to us.

Yes thanks for correcting my error.

it's ridiculous seeing how various countries that have a history of less than a 100 years like Finland or Canada are sugested, or even better - various pigmeys, indians and others who havent even "invented" a wheel by the 16th century when europeans came to them, or some islanders who built somewhere a "boat" and got stuck with it for couple milenia while eating one another at their spare time... Instead a country that stoped Mongols (who had like 70% of Euroasian continent conquered) receives little if no credit. Ahh what a hell, who cares, atleast give some to the Poland then and not some "got rich and famous because of Alies protecting their ass's after WW2" country

I agree with you 100% Finland was part of sweden for much of it's history, But i do have to give some credit to them for the win of the winter war in WW2. Also we poles stopped the ottomans, And we actually stood up to the russians while the other nations did not. <Little sterotyping there, i know some other nations did. But we did various times in history, The Bolshevik wars, (which (correct me if i'm wrong) was actually started by the russians) is just but one example of this.

I have no problem in adding in canada in a 100 years from now, when there's a WW3 and canada does play a key role in it. But till then please no.

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Troy would be fun to have but a bit to similar to greeks don't you think? also greece had extensive history and is still a nation, While the trojans probably haven't lived there for more then 100 years.

 

[Sebiche]

polynesians sound good. they were the ones that colonized easter island which was 2500 miles away from their home in little canoes!

 

[TheLastOne36]

Except they are seriously under-rated.

and i can't recall any warfare / battle history of the Polynesians, i'd love to research warfare from the Polynesians, so i will now.

 

[WingedPaladin]

Except they are seriously under-rated.

and i can't recall any warfare / battle history of the Polynesians, i'd love to research warfare from the Polynesians, so i will now.

Yes, they are seriously under-rated since they aren't written much about in the American History books. Here is my posts in another thread concerning the cultures and civilizations of Polynesia:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=214292&page=15

Most of the warfare of the Polynesians were amongst themselves ie. Samoans vs. Tongans, or between chiefs within a culture. Perhaps the most notable battle I know of against those not of Polynesia was when the Hawaiians attacked Captain Cook and his crew. I've also heard tales of westerners being eaten as it was often a custom to eat your enemy after conquering them in order to gain their power and talents. For the most part, Polynesians welcomed westerners, at least at first, some believing they were gods or ghosts due to their white skin. I don't know Maori history as much and whether or not they had battles with other civilizations. In modern times, many Hawaiians serve in the US military.

 

[UnaBombaH]

First Choices:
Ethiopia (Abyssinia): Queen Sheba and Makedda
Ashanti (Ghana)
Tibet: Dhali Llama
Ottomans: Mehmet II and Selim
Inuits (Aluet to Greenlandic)
Apache (Navajo and Pueblo): Geronimo
Scandinavians
Netherlands
Portugual

I agree: Scandinavia should be represented. Ok, the vikings are there, but they were mainly danish and from norway. I think C.G. Mannerheim (Finland) desirves to be there since at the WWII he was the one who first fought WITH germany against Russians and later made both Germany and Russia to back off from Finland, even though there were at least three russians per one finn.. (OK, i know they kicked our asses later, but...)

 

[Hitti-Litti]

But Finland itself is too small to be a civilization. And Denmark/Sweden could be a civilization, Vikings were different.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Sweden should be a civ on it's self if it is included.

Sweden fought a huge amount of battles in the thirty years wars, And the series of Battles in the Great Northern War against Russia and other countries around the region.

If i was to pick a leader for sweden then i'd pick Charles XII as leader.

But if i'd really had to choose one civ to represent them i'd choose Scandinavia to represent
1. Vikings
2. Norway-Denmark
3. Greenland
4. Faeroe Islands
5. Iceland
6. Sweden
7. Estonia (including any other land owned/leased/captured by Sweden in mainland europe)
8. Finland (yes i know there not part of Scandinavia but you know what i mean)
9. Lapps
Perhaps in early in game you start of with the vikings-like civ and in medieval time it's the swedish/Norwegian/Denamark like civ and in modern time it's guns , possibly more to do with finland.


I'd also like to have italy but i'd think it end up pretty messy with the city states of italy and the romans and Etruscans.

I like making lists so i'm making another one:

(In no particular order)

Favorite/1st picks:
Poland
Austria-Hungary
Mayans
Babylonians
Portugal
Dutch
Scandinavian (similar to what i listed above, taking away vikings)

2nd choice:
Venezuela (forget about Bolivia, Bolivar was Venezuelan) (possibly the highest out of all 2nd choices)
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How about Polynesia? where do you think it goes on the list?

Also adding Hawaiians and Tahitians and Maori would be to hard, so they'd probably group them together into Polynesians like the celts were grouped together.