@Brinawolfe- woow l33t haxxos are teh Kixa$$!!!111 Listen buddy, I've "been here" several years, and am an active member in the comminty; in this one topic, I've already made a good deal of posts; it dosent take much time to do at all really, and it takes even less time and effort to actually think over what your going to say, somthing you dont quite seem to have mastered yet. grow up a little, and then mabey I can take you, and your opinions seriouslly,
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until then, you migh also consider learning a little proper history, as you will note that a good deal of emperors did have "good deaths" and that emperors far, far for able to lead then Constantine ever was, such as Aurelian (not to be confused with Marcus Aurelius) were murdered out of jealousy, or decite.
@GoRay- Hard to say, though I'd bet the name goes backl even further; the way it works is that I think Caesars father, or an acestor of married
into the greater familly of the Julii. As for the fall of the empire, it wasnt just due to the political splitting; it had worked well under dioclatian, and a little known fact is that it was employed fairlyl early on; Marcus Aurlius himself had a similer system of where a trusted and capable general was given high command of the east while he went in and conqored a great deal of Germany (of course this was all given up when Commodus came to power), in the end, my own thoughts are that the empires falling apart are due mainlly to economic, and social reasons- the rise of the upperclass/lower class differencesin law that woudl set up th emiddle ages system, instead of the citizen/non citizen differencesin law, where all romans, regardless of wealth had the same rights was one, as it lead to abuses of power by the wealthy and powerful agianst citizens and non-citizens alike, and otherwise the collapse of the Roman economy was the single biggest factor in terms of economy, to these factors religious strife and even civil wars where the iceing on the cake, or rather, the single straw more that broke the camels back for too much weight.