Expansion Pack PREVIEW!

[Gogf]

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Is this the elusive old interface we've been looking for ?

Good detective work, monkspider!

 

[vodkamattvt]

Unused material most likely doesnt mean that it was put in to be used in a later expansion .. it means that Civ 4 was rushed out the door before the developers probably wanted to.

I mean, hell, theres a bunch of XML relating to the throne room. Will we see a throne room in a later patch/expansion. Most likely. Was the throne room going to be in this release before it was pushed out the door early? Most likely.

The core gameplay is pretty solid, as well as multiplayer, and mod-ability is off the charts. I have high hopes for this game 6 months to a year from now when modding becomes extensive.

 

[Djc]

Unused material most likely doesnt mean that it was put in to be used in a later expansion .. it means that Civ 4 was rushed out the door before the developers probably wanted to.

I mean, hell, theres a bunch of XML relating to the throne room. Will we see a throne room in a later patch/expansion. Most likely. Was the throne room going to be in this release before it was pushed out the door early? Most likely.

The core gameplay is pretty solid, as well as multiplayer, and mod-ability is off the charts. I have high hopes for this game 6 months to a year from now when modding becomes extensive.

It may be true that they didn't have enough time to finish everything they wanted. Extra flags/leaderheads/etc are probably included to give us a starter for mods.

 

[Red Door]

Maybe its something they wanted to be discovered for people that look extra hard.

 

[JtheJackal]

Alot of this stuff that was cut from the game, probably months ago

 

[Venger]

Hard to guess if you guys are saying yello flag and meaning the lion banner or the orangish banner.

The yellow banner looks like the crest of the Lionheart.

Venger

 

[Lucky The Fox]

it means that Civ 4 was rushed out the door before the developers probably wanted to.

Naah. Almost all games have some unused junk in their files, no matter how finished it is.

 

[TheDervish]

Let's hope that you're right. Augustus was my top-choice for second Roman leader.

As for the banners. Isn't the 'alternative Persian flag' actually some kind of symbol of Denmark? I remember seeing it in Europa Universalis II.
The one you have no clue about. The original banner for Holy Roman Empire in 1000AD-scenario?

It's not a Persian flag -- but the Persians are in desperate need of a new flag -- perhaps a symbol actually used in ancient Persia, unlike the arabic scimitar. Maybe they could just copy my current avatar.

 

[Zhahz]

Unused material most likely doesnt mean that it was put in to be used in a later expansion .. it means that Civ 4 was rushed out the door before the developers probably wanted to.

Huge game, lots of data, very likely that some extra data, test data, or data that was going to be used and was never used simply never got cleaned up and removed.

I hardly see this as a sign of any kind of expansion, rushed release, or anything else. As a programmer who deals with multiple instances of production, staging, testing, and development databases I'm aware that it's very easy for garbage or test data to be on production.

Not to mention Civ IV is a frickin resource hog - the code itself isn't written to be efficient so why should the asset management be any better.

 

[Xen]

Notes;

-the "persian and denmark flag: is actually an alternate symbol of england in use since the norman conquest, and still present on English coins to this very day.

-it was Hadrian, not Augusuts or Trajan whom had a male lover whom he himself drowned in the nile
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otherwise I'm very disspointed that a possibel second Roman leader head woudl be agustus, concidering the trait choices given to caesar that dont fit him at all woudl fit Augustus perfectlly, not to mention the title "first emperor" belong to Augustus, not Caesar in the first place.

 

[vodkamattvt]

Huge game, lots of data, very likely that some extra data, test data, or data that was going to be used and was never used simply never got cleaned up and removed.

I hardly see this as a sign of any kind of expansion, rushed release, or anything else. As a programmer who deals with multiple instances of production, staging, testing, and development databases I'm aware that it's very easy for garbage or test data to be on production.

Not to mention Civ IV is a frickin resource hog - the code itself isn't written to be efficient so why should the asset management be any better.

Well sure, Im not saying that Civ4 is essentially unfinished .. but all games are unfinished in the eyes of a developer Im sure throne rooms and other junk was cut to make a deadline. Wasnt Civ4 actually put out earlier than expected? And then we are going to see an early patch ... kind of suspicious. Im not blaming the development team, but I will blame the suits. Of course without them all games would be Duke Nukem Forever Sometimes you just need them to put deadlines and dollar signs on everything.

 

[Tycho Brahe]

National Coat of Arms of Denmark is almost identical to the Coat of Arms of Estonia, and can be traced directly back to King Valdemar II and Danish rule in Estonia 1219-1346.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_Arms_of_Denmark

 

[Tycho Brahe]

Coat of Arms of England

 

[Xen]

you know; the "alternative german flag" isnt a bad choice for a western roman flag

 

[Reveilled]

The alternative German flag is definitely a German Eagle, not a prussian one:

Emperor's banner until 1401:

So similar, in fact, that I'd wager the above image was the source image for the flag.

 

[KingKHAN]

Vikings, Ogedai Khan and Sitting Bull would be interesting additions to the game, Ogedai could be 2nd leader for the Mongols, Sitting Bull can rule the Sioux, an Aboriginal Tribe.

 

[scaramonga]

WOW!!!

I'm gonna have a w@nk.............

 

[Tarkhan]

whether its for a future expansion, or just leftover "dev garbage" it'll still be useful to make mods with ^_^

 

[Vael]

Vikings, Ogedai Khan and Sitting Bull would be interesting additions to the game, Ogedai could be 2nd leader for the Mongols, Sitting Bull can rule the Sioux, an Aboriginal Tribe.

Mongols already have two leaders... Genghis Khan Temujin and Kublai Khan.

otherwise I'm very disspointed that a possibel second Roman leader head woudl be agustus, concidering the trait choices given to caesar that dont fit him at all woudl fit Augustus perfectlly, not to mention the title "first emperor" belong to Augustus, not Caesar in the first place.

No offense, but I have yet to see you post anything that isn't some sort of complaint about how the game isn't historically accurate. Do you even like Civ?

 

[QiZhe]

If you've checked out Rhye's flagpack, the "Persian" one is definitely the alternate English flag, just in a different color. The "No clue" flag is actually the alternate Roman flag.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=138753