FA Consulate T3 P1- War With Germany

[greekguy]

This poll is for all citizens in Fanatikos to decide if we will go to war with Germany. There has been discussion in several threads including the official war thread. So, now it is time to make a decision. War or no war. yes/no/abstain are your choices. poll open for 2 days, so it will complete before the TC. Alright Fanatikos, Get Out and Vote.

 

[Donovan Zoi]

Are we really going to base our war plans on a bunch of vagrants to do our bidding against Germany's smaller holdings? We really need to find a way to rid ourselves of the barb menace first. Only then can can we turn our swords to Germany's properly trained army.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, and follow the time-honored practice of not putting our trust in a pack of thieves. We avert our eyes from the barb uprising and more of our land will get pillaged. So removing the immediate threat should be Priority One.

 

[Ranger99]

Yes DIZ, I agree I guess things got a little out of hand, the war will ONLY happen IF the Barbarian attack Germany,. and only then if they do not, we will follow Furiey's advice on picking them apart using either Horseman, or a combo stack of Swords and Hoplites, using our roads to their best advantage, all of the fuss about war with Germany is purley made on the assumption that Barbarian's will attack Gemrnay, if not fear not the Ministery of Defense has plan too to rid Fanatiko's of these annoying barbarians.

I liek to cover ALL of the angles DZ

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

 

[Nobody]

As deputy i will and do agree with the company policy. Germany has citys we want. They are also a small agressive nation who represent a threat to our nation. The main reason i think we need to grab germanys city of berlin is that we need to be stronger to counter roman-french dominace on our contient. If we can gain another city it would be like adding 20% potential to our nation. If we had 20 citys it would be like grabing 4 citys. With added production and a policy of bulding up persia or causeing a war a war between the two big players. will give us a favorable position on our contient. And germany is the weakest power that is close to us. So there is a case for war. But i don't think now is the right time. We have a barbarin invasion at the moment and we are hopeing they will weaken our enemys when they have already weakened us. Also we haven't had we decided what the outcome of the war will be. Do we intend just to grab berlin or are we going to wipe them out. Because i don't think this is the right time i would vote No. But because i am greek guys deputy, and i will not oppose the ministrys policy i abstain.

 

[Ranger99]

The Intention of this war, is a Lightening War, anything that is too prolonged at this moment in time is dangerous. My plans all go to saying We send in Cavalry and Swords. The Swords take out Berlin and the Horseman prevent anybody from reaching Berlin. After we take Berlin we draw the Horseman and MOST of the Swordsman out the back door, and send in Hoplites to defend Berlin and some of the old Germna, now Fanatiko's countryside for a defensive war until germany surrenders. Anything more is not yet logistical.

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

 

[ravensfire]

The question asked is "Should we declare war with Germany Next Turn Chat", emphasis mine.

Simply put, we are not ready. Our units are out of place. We lack vital intelligence. Our plans are not finalized.

The opportunity is real and worth risk. We can, and should, take our time, and do this right. During the next turn chat, setup the attack. Let's move our units into their starting points, and gather the needed information. We can then begin our attack the following turn chat.

But not this turn chat. Vote NO for and early, unprepared war.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

 

[Gerikes]

The question asked is "Should we declare war with Germany Next Turn Chat", emphasis mine.

Simply put, we are not ready. Our units are out of place. We lack vital intelligence. Our plans are not finalized.

The opportunity is real and worth risk. We can, and should, take our time, and do this right. During the next turn chat, setup the attack. Let's move our units into their starting points, and gather the needed information. We can then begin our attack the following turn chat.

But not this turn chat. Vote NO for and early, unprepared war.

-- Ravensfire, President of Fanatikos

I completely agree with this. Minister of Defense Ranger99 has done well in putting together a plan in short notice, and has taken well to others ideas and incorperated them.

This is all still too short notice, however. Let's get our swordsmen on the right side of the continent. Let's get our horsemen in position. Let's gather intelligence and set up for the counterattack. Let's let the Barbarians take their course. If what people are saying about German reinforcements going to help Heidelberg are correct, we should be able to catch them remaining off-gaurd later still.

Perhaps when all of our units are in position to go, we may stop the turnchat and reevaluate? But as for this turnchat, no.

 

[Dominus Romae]

We will not attack Germany only because some barbs are supposedly directing themselves towards there. We need more careful planning. Or, war weariness will be a "reward" for us.

 

[Furiey]

We need to deal with these Barbarians and to do that we need troops. We also need troops to get Berlin. Do we have enough for both NOW, to declare THIS turnchat? No, we do not, we're close, but not quite there. Next turnchat may be another matter

 

[Nobody]

It does seem germany are our scape goats. "france is threatening... Invade Germany. Barbarins are attacking.... Invade Germany"

 

[Dominus Romae]

It does seem germany are our scape goats. "france is threatening... Invade Germany. Barbarins are attacking.... Invade Germany"

Poor Bismarck. Why don't we invade France instead? Germany is so weak, and... "Mercy!" shouts Bismarck.

 

[Provolution]

WE should use this opportunity to hone our troops skills on the barbarians, and with 24 horsemen to train on, we may well get some veterans and elites out of this.

I say we confront the barbarian horde with a moderate stack, get some experience out of this, and then put our elites and some veterans in a stack sent for Berlin later, fish some military leaders on our way.

 

[vikingruler]

We must go to war. This is our best chance to seize Berlin, as well burn Hidelburg without Rome getting renewed vigor and destroying Germany. One of the barb stacks is bound to attack Hiedelburg. Think about it, they only 2 or 3 squares away, I also suggest maybe luring them to the city. Move a unit of ours within Hiedelburg's borders thus enticing the barbs to move, when we evacuate, there stands the city of Hiedelburg ripe for pillaging.

 

[Ranger99]

Alright, I can wait, but instead I want to watch the barbarian's the whole TC preferably by a horse trailing them. We need to gather more Intelligence, and now that we wait a little longer I'd like to ask for the proper funds to have our Embassy People check out berlin and evaluate its Defense's. We can wiat it shouldn't make much difference.

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99

 

[RegentMan]

What's our current military situation?

 

[vikingruler]

What's our current military situation?

Quite strong. 8 swords, 2 horses, and a number of hoplites I think 8 or 10. Our army is strong enough to sieze Berlin, and raze Hidlelburg and Cologne. It will I assume be further strengthened this TC, by adding more horses and maybe more swords.

 

[Ranger99]

RegentMan, in the Ministery Thread There is an anlaysis of our Military situation and our strength's and weakness's that I update every TC.

--Minister of Defense:Ranger99