Aravorn
Deity
Let me guess.
Concentrate and strike.
Concentrate and strike.
Falklands War Pbem!!!!
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PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
ENGLISH FLEET RIGHT OFF SOUTH SHORE
Limited Air Attacks as troops prepare for the onslaught
The massive English Fleet has been spotted south of Fitz Roy Base. Surrounded by formidable air and naval coverage, the English left small gape in their Harrier line, allowing a mirage to get through and strike a Vulcan bomber, and what was hopefully the British Carrier. It was not, but 9 units were sunk into the abyss. Maybe it was a horde of bombers, or maybe it was ground forces.
More holes in the English Air Defense grid were not found.
We await the coming storm.
Limited Air Attacks as troops prepare for the onslaught
The massive English Fleet has been spotted south of Fitz Roy Base. Surrounded by formidable air and naval coverage, the English left small gape in their Harrier line, allowing a mirage to get through and strike a Vulcan bomber, and what was hopefully the British Carrier. It was not, but 9 units were sunk into the abyss. Maybe it was a horde of bombers, or maybe it was ground forces.
More holes in the English Air Defense grid were not found.
We await the coming storm.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
If this game doesn't get downloaded, I'm going to sleep 
And yes, that was the strategy I would take, though I have taken some defenses against it.
And yes, that was the strategy I would take, though I have taken some defenses against it.
Aravorn
Deity
Nope surface units this game is all but over.
Aravorn
Deity
News from the London Times: The Forces sent to retake the Falklands have suffered a bitter and complete defeat. Steve Viper who covers defense issues for the times couldn't understand why the proud English people wopuld let some stupid pollock lead them into battle. Sources in the defense ministry said there would be a total shake up of the command structure and NO MORE POLLOCKs!
Made the final effort at Fitz Roy base, lots of units eliminated. If I had about a half dozen or so units left I might have had a chance, sinking that transport on the last turn pretty much sealed my fate.
I tried to look at the file as the Argy's after, but you password protected it. Can I have the password so I can take a look around and see what I was up against? If not Ill understand but this is pretty much over. I officially concede defeat what ever officers I had left have officially turned over their swagger sticks.
Made the final effort at Fitz Roy base, lots of units eliminated. If I had about a half dozen or so units left I might have had a chance, sinking that transport on the last turn pretty much sealed my fate.
I tried to look at the file as the Argy's after, but you password protected it. Can I have the password so I can take a look around and see what I was up against? If not Ill understand but this is pretty much over. I officially concede defeat what ever officers I had left have officially turned over their swagger sticks.
Aravorn
Deity
The file, mine is not password protected but then again there aint much left to see....
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
Unfortunately, I can't release the password, as I use the same for all my PBEM's. Is there anyone here who can remove passwords?
I'll have the victory speech when I see the file when I get home (using a university computer now). But for now, I'll just say I wasn't kidding in having formidable defenses. Fitz Roy had formidable defenses, and was further reinforced from transfer of units from Port Stanley and Darwin. I used transport craft to move the units around instead of roads, it let me move AA guns a lot faster.
I'll check at home, but I think Fitz Roy had about 6 AA guns, 3 or 4 anti-air exocet, one stinger, hordes of Pucara's and Mirages, TAM's, and infantry units, as well as the Bel Grano. Hopefully it lived, so I can rush it out and sink your fleet in a coup de grace.
I'll have the victory speech when I see the file when I get home (using a university computer now). But for now, I'll just say I wasn't kidding in having formidable defenses. Fitz Roy had formidable defenses, and was further reinforced from transfer of units from Port Stanley and Darwin. I used transport craft to move the units around instead of roads, it let me move AA guns a lot faster.
I'll check at home, but I think Fitz Roy had about 6 AA guns, 3 or 4 anti-air exocet, one stinger, hordes of Pucara's and Mirages, TAM's, and infantry units, as well as the Bel Grano. Hopefully it lived, so I can rush it out and sink your fleet in a coup de grace.
Aravorn
Deity
Have fun rubbing salt in the wounds!.
It sounds like this is a fairly well balanced scenario if both sides dont make any major blunders.
I got some ideas that may make manuever better for the english. More later I gotta run some errands. Picked up my DSL modem this morning, should be hooked up by mid next week, cant wait this dial up is a drag!
It sounds like this is a fairly well balanced scenario if both sides dont make any major blunders.
I got some ideas that may make manuever better for the english. More later I gotta run some errands. Picked up my DSL modem this morning, should be hooked up by mid next week, cant wait this dial up is a drag!
academia
Master of the Universe
So, war is over?
I´d like to hear your comments. (specially british side)
Post them here. ok?
I´d like to hear your comments. (specially british side)
Post them here. ok?
Darius
Smith, Wesson, and me
Maybe some screenshots, etc. All I could gather here is what got destroyed, not the tactics of your fleet.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
I'll finish his fleet, then post screenshots of my dispositions over the campaign.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
VICTORY!!!!!
Our brave men, and a few women, have resisted the English Fleet, killed the English soldiers, and have sunk their fleet to the ground.
Air assaults by Mirages and Pucara's attack the Harrier's and Vulcans still flying around Fitz Roy Base. All enemy planes and naval ships around Fitz Roy Base are destroyed. The Falklands shall forever remain in Argentinian hands.
Some of the British are unable to understand their defeat, and in desperation, seize command of their ships and switch to the other side, as the lonely British destroyer does outside of Fitz Roy Base. Now under Argentinian Fleet command, the renamed destroyer Santa Fe has rendevoued with the now empty British Carrier Invincible. However, it is not so invincible now, as it is without planes, and has been damaged by our strikes. The destroyer has radioded a simple message to the British. Surrender the Invincible, or prepare to be sunk losing all hands.
The Invincible shall be taken as part of the war reparations England owes Argentina in place of our sunk navy. The Invincible shall serve as a more than adequate successor for the more primitive and now sunken 25 de Mayo.
Celebrations last for an entire month in Argentina, and we beat the English in the World Cup shortly thereafter. And there was much rejoicing.
Argentina
England
and the ending scene:
Our brave men, and a few women, have resisted the English Fleet, killed the English soldiers, and have sunk their fleet to the ground.
Air assaults by Mirages and Pucara's attack the Harrier's and Vulcans still flying around Fitz Roy Base. All enemy planes and naval ships around Fitz Roy Base are destroyed. The Falklands shall forever remain in Argentinian hands.
Some of the British are unable to understand their defeat, and in desperation, seize command of their ships and switch to the other side, as the lonely British destroyer does outside of Fitz Roy Base. Now under Argentinian Fleet command, the renamed destroyer Santa Fe has rendevoued with the now empty British Carrier Invincible. However, it is not so invincible now, as it is without planes, and has been damaged by our strikes. The destroyer has radioded a simple message to the British. Surrender the Invincible, or prepare to be sunk losing all hands.
The Invincible shall be taken as part of the war reparations England owes Argentina in place of our sunk navy. The Invincible shall serve as a more than adequate successor for the more primitive and now sunken 25 de Mayo.
Celebrations last for an entire month in Argentina, and we beat the English in the World Cup shortly thereafter. And there was much rejoicing.
Argentina
England and the ending scene:
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PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
Fitz Roy was devasted. Here it was before the attack.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
And after:
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
And Yes, I realize I should have built a coastal fortress there.
Now, for naval strategy.
Here were a couple facts I was operating under.
1. His navy is superior to mine.
2. His ground troops are equal or superior to mine.
3. Knowledge is half the battle.
4. He is coming to me.
The goal was for my navy was to basically kamikaze the British, and destroy as many transports as I could. I later altered this to sink as many submarines with Sea Wolf missiles, as I relized these would even be more effective than my own exocets. The main secret was that I had to find him, and fire what I had, before he found me and destroyed my fleet.
For main naval weapons, I used the exocet. Lovely missile, good range, and does lots of damage. Unfortunatley, I only had a limited amount, and I couldn't build more.
That was changed.
I also used Canberras, mostly Veterans, to attack the protected English targets, in combination with exocets and fighters. Canberra's were also excellent patrol craft with their long range.
Note that while I sank a great many ships, if this had only been a naval battle, he would have won. He sunk most of my fleet, and still controlled the seas.
Finally, the English's biggest mistake was not sinking my carrier after they let me know they have found it. Here is a clip of my carrier preparing to due vengeance on the English, and it's load layout. Most of these exocets actually went to destroy the Sheffield, which my planes haven't located yet, as this is a save before I started playing.
Now, for naval strategy.
Here were a couple facts I was operating under.
1. His navy is superior to mine.
2. His ground troops are equal or superior to mine.
3. Knowledge is half the battle.
4. He is coming to me.
The goal was for my navy was to basically kamikaze the British, and destroy as many transports as I could. I later altered this to sink as many submarines with Sea Wolf missiles, as I relized these would even be more effective than my own exocets. The main secret was that I had to find him, and fire what I had, before he found me and destroyed my fleet.
For main naval weapons, I used the exocet. Lovely missile, good range, and does lots of damage. Unfortunatley, I only had a limited amount, and I couldn't build more.
That was changed. I also used Canberras, mostly Veterans, to attack the protected English targets, in combination with exocets and fighters. Canberra's were also excellent patrol craft with their long range.
Note that while I sank a great many ships, if this had only been a naval battle, he would have won. He sunk most of my fleet, and still controlled the seas.
Finally, the English's biggest mistake was not sinking my carrier after they let me know they have found it. Here is a clip of my carrier preparing to due vengeance on the English, and it's load layout. Most of these exocets actually went to destroy the Sheffield, which my planes haven't located yet, as this is a save before I started playing.
Aravorn
Deity
Academia
Ill post as soon as you play your turn in the third colonies PBEM.
(Consdier the above a legal and ethical "BUMP".)
In a nutshell a fun game. I really think something was happening earlier with the text files. Despite all that prior to the final assault, the Argy's got one of my remaining two transports that actually had units on it. If I had that transport I may have very well gotten into Fitz Roy Base albeit with very few units left.
Now my point is not to say I might have won. My point is I wonder how balanced the game is, because after a bunch of really stupid mistakes I came fairly close to at least establishing a foothold on the Island. With that being said PG I wonder what you had left for a defense in Port Stanley and Darwin and the other town on the main island, could you post snap shots of those as well? Im wondering about the overall defense and what may have happened if I still had more of my assets available.
Once I got everything together (well what I had left) it was fairly easy to deter the argys from making a push. (Correct me if I have a wrong assumption PG) I decided to swing around the south to come up the back end and try to acheive some sort of surprise after I had lost so many units. The early loses especially around the argy carrier was because I hadn't integrated air with sea yet. And the comment about my biggest mistake being not sinking the carrier, believe me I tried! But again the air hadn't caught up yet and the other missles I had werent in range. So I have some other comments and will post some snapshots but that has to be later. My wife is still home and Im being nagged to get "something" done. Like a debrief from a major battle isn't important. She goes to work tonight so I will work on it then. It may take me a while but you guys got to bear with me, Im old and no where near as computer savvy as you youngsters. (But Im one hell of a bumper
More later.
Ill post as soon as you play your turn in the third colonies PBEM.
(Consdier the above a legal and ethical "BUMP".)
In a nutshell a fun game. I really think something was happening earlier with the text files. Despite all that prior to the final assault, the Argy's got one of my remaining two transports that actually had units on it. If I had that transport I may have very well gotten into Fitz Roy Base albeit with very few units left.
Now my point is not to say I might have won. My point is I wonder how balanced the game is, because after a bunch of really stupid mistakes I came fairly close to at least establishing a foothold on the Island. With that being said PG I wonder what you had left for a defense in Port Stanley and Darwin and the other town on the main island, could you post snap shots of those as well? Im wondering about the overall defense and what may have happened if I still had more of my assets available.
Once I got everything together (well what I had left) it was fairly easy to deter the argys from making a push. (Correct me if I have a wrong assumption PG) I decided to swing around the south to come up the back end and try to acheive some sort of surprise after I had lost so many units. The early loses especially around the argy carrier was because I hadn't integrated air with sea yet. And the comment about my biggest mistake being not sinking the carrier, believe me I tried! But again the air hadn't caught up yet and the other missles I had werent in range. So I have some other comments and will post some snapshots but that has to be later. My wife is still home and Im being nagged to get "something" done. Like a debrief from a major battle isn't important. She goes to work tonight so I will work on it then. It may take me a while but you guys got to bear with me, Im old and no where near as computer savvy as you youngsters. (But Im one hell of a bumper
More later.
Aravorn
Deity
Academia
Ill post as soon as you play your turn in the third colonies PBEM.
(Consdier the above a legal and ethical "BUMP".)
In a nutshell a fun game. I really think something was happening earlier with the text files. Despite all that prior to the final assault, the Argy's got one of my remaining two transports that actually had units on it. If I had that transport I may have very well gotten into Fitz Roy Base albeit with very few units left.
Now my point is not to say I might have won. My point is I wonder how balanced the game is, because after a bunch of really stupid mistakes I came fairly close to at least establishing a foothold on the Island. With that being said PG I wonder what you had left for a defense in Port Stanley and Darwin and the other town on the main island, could you post snap shots of those as well? Im wondering about the overall defense and what may have happened if I still had more of my assets available.
Once I got everything together (well what I had left) it was fairly easy to deter the argys from making a push. (Correct me if I have a wrong assumption PG) I decided to swing around the south to come up the back end and try to acheive some sort of surprise after I had lost so many units. The early loses especially around the argy carrier was because I hadn't integrated air with sea yet. And the comment about my biggest mistake being not sinking the carrier, believe me I tried! But again the air hadn't caught up yet and the other missles I had werent in range. So I have some other comments and will post some snapshots but that has to be later. My wife is still home and Im being nagged to get "something" done. Like a debrief from a major battle isn't important. She goes to work tonight so I will work on it then. It may take me a while but you guys got to bear with me, Im old and no where near as computer savvy as you youngsters. (But Im one hell of a bumper
More later.
Ill post as soon as you play your turn in the third colonies PBEM.
(Consdier the above a legal and ethical "BUMP".)
In a nutshell a fun game. I really think something was happening earlier with the text files. Despite all that prior to the final assault, the Argy's got one of my remaining two transports that actually had units on it. If I had that transport I may have very well gotten into Fitz Roy Base albeit with very few units left.
Now my point is not to say I might have won. My point is I wonder how balanced the game is, because after a bunch of really stupid mistakes I came fairly close to at least establishing a foothold on the Island. With that being said PG I wonder what you had left for a defense in Port Stanley and Darwin and the other town on the main island, could you post snap shots of those as well? Im wondering about the overall defense and what may have happened if I still had more of my assets available.
Once I got everything together (well what I had left) it was fairly easy to deter the argys from making a push. (Correct me if I have a wrong assumption PG) I decided to swing around the south to come up the back end and try to acheive some sort of surprise after I had lost so many units. The early loses especially around the argy carrier was because I hadn't integrated air with sea yet. And the comment about my biggest mistake being not sinking the carrier, believe me I tried! But again the air hadn't caught up yet and the other missles I had werent in range. So I have some other comments and will post some snapshots but that has to be later. My wife is still home and Im being nagged to get "something" done. Like a debrief from a major battle isn't important. She goes to work tonight so I will work on it then. It may take me a while but you guys got to bear with me, Im old and no where near as computer savvy as you youngsters. (But Im one hell of a bumper
More later.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
Yes, you are somewhat correct in why I backed off. I did it for three reasons.
1. My navy was mostly sunk
2. I was out of exocets.
3. Your Air Power prevented attacks by my fighter's and Canberra's. Those destroyers were veteran strong against air power, it took veteran Canberra's to damage them, and I was almost out.
I decided it would be better to save my fighters to fight off an air assault on my cities, and use Canberra's to strike at the ground troops when they land.
As for other cities, I'll post them. A lot of my AA was in Fitz Roy, because I moved units there with transports. The most heavily defended city, Port Stanley, had most of it's units shift to Port Stanley. Darwin had a lot of units for counter-attack, as did San Carlos (which had a lot of AA guns that could not be moved in time, but were placed there in case I needed to ship out to Port Howard and Fox Bay). Port Howard, Fox Bay, and Port Leith were severely underguarded.
I'll post all, but I don't know how to attatch more than one image per post.
1. My navy was mostly sunk
2. I was out of exocets.
3. Your Air Power prevented attacks by my fighter's and Canberra's. Those destroyers were veteran strong against air power, it took veteran Canberra's to damage them, and I was almost out.
I decided it would be better to save my fighters to fight off an air assault on my cities, and use Canberra's to strike at the ground troops when they land.
As for other cities, I'll post them. A lot of my AA was in Fitz Roy, because I moved units there with transports. The most heavily defended city, Port Stanley, had most of it's units shift to Port Stanley. Darwin had a lot of units for counter-attack, as did San Carlos (which had a lot of AA guns that could not be moved in time, but were placed there in case I needed to ship out to Port Howard and Fox Bay). Port Howard, Fox Bay, and Port Leith were severely underguarded.
I'll post all, but I don't know how to attatch more than one image per post.
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
Darwin:
PinkyGen
Paper copying intern
San Carlos
