[Fall of Rome]Hardest achievement ever?

[Aerolight]

Pax Romana Aeternum ( Everlasting Roman Peace )
Win the game as Eastern or Western Rome on Deity and have all your original cities under your control in the Fall of Rome scenario.

Is this...ever possible?
Though It's obvious that Western Rome is designed to be more capable of retaking a city but is it really possible to get all roman glory back?
In fact I've got no idea about winning as Roman on Deity.Diplomacy sucks.Retreat as you can and watch barbarians battling with each other?

 

[joncnunn]

One of the old Fall of Rome threads said this achievement is actually easier as Eastern Rome.
They are the only civ in the game with a naval ranged unit and almost all their cities are either coastal or near the coast.
Once the sea is cleared, easy to retake a coastal city; and (I think) your not required to retake cities the other Rome lost.

West Rome has a whole lot more vulnerable cities on turn 1 than East Rome.

As to hardest achievement ever:
With G&K: That is Japan's special achievement for anyone who didn't unlock it in Vanilla. (Attack and win with only 1 hit point)
Another candidate is the Diety level one of the Ancient Wonders scenerio.
And yet another candidate is lose the Korean scenario as Korea.

 

[Dreadnought]

This achievement is doable as Eastern Rome, nigh impossible as Western Rome.

 

[Aaron90495]

And yet another candidate is lose the Korean scenario as Korea.

I just resigned to get this one

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

You can win this by going into the Map Editor and surrounding your nation with mountains.. sneaky sneaky.

 

[strijder20]

You can win this by going into the Map Editor and surrounding your nation with mountains.. sneaky sneaky.

I don't think anyone here is willing to cheat to get the achievement. You know, it kind of takes the fun out of it.

 

[geolawyerman]

You can win this by going into the Map Editor and surrounding your nation with mountains.. sneaky sneaky.

Do you mean worldbuilder by this or is this something completely separate that I don't know about?

 

[joncnunn]

I was under the impression the achievement would be disabled if the scenario was modified.

But there's another thread if someone really wants to cheat to get it that would be quicker. (It has both links to saves in position to get several achievements and a link to some tool that directly gives whatever achievements you want.)

 

[Aerolight]

You can win this by going into the Map Editor and surrounding your nation with mountains.. sneaky sneaky.

No Cheat bro.

 

[Aerolight]

One of the old Fall of Rome threads said this achievement is actually easier as Eastern Rome.
They are the only civ in the game with a naval ranged unit and almost all their cities are either coastal or near the coast.
Once the sea is cleared, easy to retake a coastal city; and (I think) your not required to retake cities the other Rome lost.

West Rome has a whole lot more vulnerable cities on turn 1 than East Rome.

As to hardest achievement ever:
With G&K: That is Japan's special achievement for anyone who didn't unlock it in Vanilla. (Attack and win with only 1 hit point)
Another candidate is the Diety level one of the Ancient Wonders scenerio.
And yet another candidate is lose the Korean scenario as Korea.

Obviously no need to retake another rome's city. I'll have a try.

In my opinion this one could be a hardest one:
Longest. Name. Ever.
Have the city of Llanfairpwllgwyngyll in your empire
(Tips: Celtic 43th city, if I didn't go wrong)

 

[killmeplease]

I've tried to get it as western rome but failed.
although i've recaptured all my cities (and even razed a couble of frankish ones and completely annihilated vandals), sassanids captured a number of eastern roman cities and won by score.
so you should help your allies to win this achievement as western rome
also dont count on strifes between barbs, they seem to love each other
the only strife i've seen was huns attacking sassanids

 

[Biologist]

Assuming it's not one of the completely broken ones, I think the hardest one is "He Threw a Car at my Head!". When was the last time anybody saw a barb actually attack a city, even one completely undefended with nothing else nearby.

 

[Gulo]

As to hardest achievement ever:
With G&K: That is Japan's special achievement for anyone who didn't unlock it in Vanilla. (Attack and win with only 1 hit point)

I got this achievement a few weeks ago. You can actually earn this one in G&K with a unit that has 10 health or less. If you're playing as Japan and you are involved in a big fight, it's very easy to get.

 

[joncnunn]

also dont count on strifes between barbs, they seem to love each other
the only strife i've seen was huns attacking sassanids

This is highly situation dependent. (I was playing Huns)

Goth AI start by heading starting force South towards the Balkins.

If human takes NE Goth city, Goth AI sends reinforcements from capital towards it but keeps fighting Rome with their main force.

Next door Goth city: If human takes that city, the Goth AI will turn the forces attacking Rome around and send them back to retake that city. If human instead razes the city, the Goth AI gives up trying to retake their cities and goes back to attacking Rome.

Looks completely distance dependent; human can choose correct combo of razing and keeping to encourage Goth AI to continue fighting Rome for a while, but the Goth AI won't go into Italy if they don't have sole possession of the Balkans and so at some point will have to fight the Goth army (W Rome controlled by AI won't weaken it much)

Sassanid AI: Due to distance is only interested in Eastern Rome at game start, but it's quite possible the Hun AI can take one of those Eastern Rome starting cities that Sassani AI wants. In my own game I didn't take anything east of Constan. and left them to the Sassandis while I tried (unsuccessfully due to running out of time) to take Rome.

Frank AI: At the very end of the game, I saw a Frank force in NE Italy. I didn't have a map so I don't know for sure what else they took. Celt AI appeared ineffective (didn't see them and log only reported them taking a single city), even the Vandals were more effective.

 

[killmeplease]

This is highly situation dependent. (I was playing Huns)

ofc if you play as one of the barbs then other tribes will likely attack you

 

[joncnunn]

ofc if you play as one of the barbs then other tribes will likely attack you

With exception of if your Vandals following their historic invasion path (East to Carthage -> cross to Sicily-> Rome) in which case your not going to make contact with the other barbs until after you take Rome.

Celts is also fairly safe; (unlikely the Frank AIs will try to invade England). But depending upon which cities in France you take you could run into Franks quickly.

(Sass. is also isolated from barbs but they aren't considered a barb in this scenerio)

 

[joncnunn]

Have the city of Llanfairpwllgwyngyll in your empire
(Tips: Celtic 43th city, if I didn't go wrong)

It's 10 slots fewer.
Play on huge map but cut major AIs down to 1.
Keep default city states but play on either Pangaea plus or Contents plus to relocate most of the city states to islands (compared to the normal scripts)
You may also need to play on Chieftain to deal with the happiness issues of having that many cities.

 

[clearbeard]

It's 10 slots fewer.
Play on huge map but cut major AIs down to 1.
Keep default city states but play on either Pangaea plus or Contents plus to relocate most of the city states to islands (compared to the normal scripts)
You may also need to play on Chieftain to deal with the happiness issues of having that many cities.

Actually, on huge maps the unhappiness penalty for # of cities is reduced (by 40%, I think), so with religions and social policies happiness is no problem. I just finished an Maya ICS pangea plus game on Emperor with around +300 happiness at the end of the game, with around 80 cities. In the late game, founding new cities actually made my happiness go UP: it was insane.

 

[joncnunn]

Assuming it's not one of the completely broken ones, I think the hardest one is "He Threw a Car at my Head!". When was the last time anybody saw a barb actually attack a city, even one completely undefended with nothing else nearby.

It looks like (based on the save file of a game that should grant it) that you need to build no military at all; don't shoot back with the city defense, and don't build improvements either. Just build settlers and found multiple cities.

And you may want raging barbs on (to increase barb unit production rate)

 

[MarauderCH]

Obviously no need to retake another rome's city. I'll have a try.

In my opinion this one could be a hardest one:
Longest. Name. Ever.
Have the city of Llanfairpwllgwyngyll in your empire
(Tips: Celtic 43th city, if I didn't go wrong)

With thier ability to get religion going fast and thier UB, you have the ability to get a lot more happiness then most other Civs. Build a religion based on happiness and spam away the cities and you will get this achivement and it will be a lot easier then you think...