Favourite Trek Race

[Tacit_Exit]

Originally posted by MrPresident
Is it just me or do the Borg seem strangely like Communists? And are the Klingon fascists? Or am I reading too much into Star Trek?

I think Gene Roddenberry modeled most of the original races on the major nations involved in WW2;
Russians= Klingons
Japanese= Romulans
America= take a guess

I voted other; The Crystalline Entity, cause it removed that stoopid Tasha Yarr character [dance]

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by MrPresident
Is it just me or do the Borg seem strangely like Communists? And are the Klingon fascists? Or am I reading too much into Star Trek?

I read too much in it as well:
The Borg are the negative picture of Communism, the Federation is the positive.
The Cardassians are Fascists.
The Romulans represent ancient systems.
The Klingons (in the newer series') are like Barbarians from a Roman perspective. Organized savages, so to speak.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by newfangle
What's your gosh darn favourite race, then?

I don't really have a 'gosh darn' favourite.

But I do think the Vorta were rather cool.

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
But I do think the Vorta were rather cool.

These genetically breeded minions?

They were definately not cooler than their masters.

 

[pi8ch]

History ans ST...

Borg are Communists? Rather not.. The "Borg" are stolen of the German non-ending Sci-Fi Series "Perry Rhodan" see http://www.perry-rhodan.us/ for an american version.

I suggest it was back in the 60ties when the Perry-Rhodan writers created the "Posbis". They were roboters with an accumulated intelligence that came of a cellular-bio-material that is like a brain. They flew around in star ships that looked like cubes with manny additional stuff so that the cubes looked rather "unfinished"... They were mankinds heaviest enemy until they could "re-programm" them...

Noticed any parallels yet?

The Borgs are just an modern-derviation of these Posbis.


Back to History related...

The only history-related things I relay noticed were in DS9: Cardassia and Bajor: Nazi-Germany and France...

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by pi8ch
The only history-related things I relay noticed were in DS9: Cardassia and Bajor: Nazi-Germany and France...

That could as well be interpreted as Israel and the Palestinians, or in fact any other occupation of land that involves terrorism.

A better parallel than the two above is colonialism, for example in India. After all the Cardassians were there for a long time, exploiting the planet.

I missed the Ferengi in my last post, they are the only really obvious analogy, they are Capitalists.

 

[MrPresident]

I think it goes like this:

Borg = Communist
Klingon = Fascist
Human = Socialist
Romulans/Cardassians = Soviets
Vulcans = Swiss
Ferengi = Big business/What America could become.

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by MrPresident
Borg = Communist
Klingon = Fascist
Human = Socialist
Romulans/Cardassians = Soviets
Vulcans = Swiss
Ferengi = Big business/What America could become.

Nah, the Cardassians are so much like Germany in the first half of the 20th century (okay except the 20s).
The Romulans have alot of the Soviets, that's true, but then the Borg would more specifically be Maoists in the cultural revolution.

And Vulcans = Swiss??? I rather associate them with esoterical people, no matter where from.

 

[Stapel]

Human! what else?

And there is a Bajoran girl I like.

What race is 7 of 9? Human, then Borg, then Human?

 

[MrPresident]

A thread discussing the political undertones of Star Trek. Now this is an internet forum.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Hitro

These genetically breeded minions?

They were definately not cooler than their masters.

If the Dominion masters are so great, how come they can't manage their own affairs?

I like the Vorta. Big deal!

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by MrPresident
A thread discussing the political undertones of Star Trek. Now this is an internet forum.

Hey, you classified them, MrGeek!

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by MrPresident
A thread discussing the political undertones of Star Trek. Now this is an internet forum.

And you have the honour of having started it.

Actually I've waited for this thread to come for more than a year now. Thanks MrPresident. I love you.

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
If the Dominion masters are so great, how come they can't manage their own affairs?

Every great master delegates work. That's the whole point of being the master.

 

[thestonesfan]

I like whichever race has the scantiliest-clad females.

In the old shows, I think most aliens came from rather warm planets.

 

[CurtSibling]

Originally posted by Hitro

Every great master delegates work. That's the whole point of being the master.

Methinks thou hast read too much into cheesy US sci-fi!

 

[pi8ch]

Cardassia and bajor ARE Germany and France:

Why?

The bajoran partisans are called "Marquis" like the French resistance named themselve...

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by CurtSibling
Methinks thou hast read too much into cheesy US sci-fi!

Sci-Fi? Who said I was talking about anything else but the real world?
If I'd be someone's master I'd surely make him do the work.

 

[MrPresident]

Thanks MrPresident. I love you.

O...Kay...[MrPresident slowly backs away from the computer]Not that there is anything wrong with that.

And Vulcans = Swiss???

They are both peaceful, neutral and haven't produced anything worthwhile at all.

 

[Hitro]

Originally posted by MrPresident
O...Kay...[MrPresident slowly backs away from the computer]Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Certainly not. Backing away from the computer is according to most oculists increasing your chance of sustaining a good eye sight.

They are both peaceful, neutral and haven't produced anything worthwhile at all.

The Vulcans aren't neutral and the Swiss have produced Gottfried Dienst.