Ffh Nes Ii

[Immaculate]

one question about buildings which generate stability. do they lift the stability by one in general. or does "generates 1 stability" means i will be increased by one every turn?

thanks

it means only once... there are no buildings that genreate 1 stability per turn automatically.

generally stability is worth between 15-20 gold per point. there are cheaper methods (the social welfare civic) but that stability comes at an opportunity cost (in your case the inability to use the agrarianism civic) and it takes away some financial control over your situation.

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[vruchten]

thx immaculat,

also does changing a civic from default to something cost stability and gold?

as an example, if i build a monument and switch to personality cult: the stability would stay the same, i would pay 5+20 gold, and would get 2 gold every turn? which would mean i would just get profit after 12 turns?

 

[Immaculate]

yes, that is correct...
but if you are going to be changing civics anyway (lets say you want to adopt communal work camps as an example)... then you might as well adopt other civics you like at the same time.

perhaps the best way to get stability right now is things like 'almshouses', 'sport arenas' (edit: chill sheds) etc.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

@northen, you missed my story: the song of Grak Gorson

 

[Ekolite]

Vote Ekolite!

Doesn't that mean Immac, that if you build a monument and then, Sabel forbid, it is destroyed - perhaps by some governmental order, you could rebuild it and get another stability, and then tear that one down and rebuild it, and tear that one down and rebuild it.... Stability for everyone!

 

[Northen Wolf]

@northen, you missed my story: the song of Grak Gorson

I did not add it on purpose as - Was it not reposted AFTER the new competition was announced? I'll add it into the list tho

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Nope

posted both times in time for the competition.

 

[Ekolite]

Hang on, so you're entering it for both competitions? Is that allowed?

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Nope. it was entered after the first competetion!

edit: I think

 

[Immaculate]

Tannery
Classification: Crafting Infrastructure
Required Population: 5
Required Workforce: 1 domestic commerce workforce
Required Production Capacity: 4
Required Technology: animal husbandry or hunting
Cost: 30 gold (in addition to the workforce cost)
Game Effect: generates 3 gold per turn, and leather resource. (requires hides), reduces stability by 1.


Adepts’ Study
Classification: Mage Improvement
Required Population: 4
Required Workforce: none
Required Production Capacity: 3
Required Technology: ‘the aether’ or ‘call from the planes’
Cost: 65 gold
Game Effect: Generates 2 research points per turn and increases mage military quality according to the following formula:

Increased military quality=(number of adepts’ studies in nation)/(number of cities in nation)​

Are being changed to:
Tannery
Classification: Crafting Infrastructure
Required Population: 5
Required Workforce: 1 domestic commerce workforce
Required Production Capacity: 4
Required Technology: animal husbandry or hunting
Cost: 30 gold (in addition to the workforce cost)
Game Effect: generates 3 gold per turn, and leather resource. (requires hides).

and


Adepts’ Study
Classification: Mage Improvement
Required Population: 4
Required Workforce: none
Required Production Capacity: 3
Required Technology: ‘the aether’ or ‘call from the planes’
Cost: 40 gold
Game Effect: Generates 2 research points per turn and increases mage military quality according to the following formula:

Increased military quality=(number of adepts’ studies in nation)/(number of cities in nation)​

 

[thomas.berubeg]

Thank you
that makes everything alot easier

 

[Tyrs]

Yay, our opinions matter!

 

[Immaculate]

Yay, our opinions matter!

Totally.


When i designed FFH NES II, i purposefully designed it to be complex, perhaps, by the standards of most NESers, too complex. Thats because i was interested in playing a complex, immersive NES.

What i didn't realize (at least right away) was how difficult it would be to balance such a complex game. Thats why its essential that i hear from the players regarding what they think is unbalanced (or otherwise gripe-worthy). The players are not only playing, they are 'play-testing' the system as they go along.

I hope this NES has many more updates left in it. That being the assumption, its best to try and fix elements within it that need fixing as we go so that they don't become major problems later on.

Immac.

 

[Ekolite]

Thats because i was interested in playing a complex, immersive NES.

Let's hope EkoNES can fill this niche for you.

 

[Immaculate]

I heard the mods a bit of a hard-*ss though... haha.. just jokes eko.

 

[Immaculate]

Please note:
the city hall improvement is now cheaper with ornamental stone (35 instead of 40).

 

[Immaculate]

In the interest of fairness i think i should point out that the technologies of two nations who have newly adopted an 'open' economy have now been posted.... it sucks for them that people know this but then, thats the cost of an open economy.

 

[hbar]

If you have the food, can a city be grown twice in one turn (ex. size 4 to size 6 = 25+36 = 61 )?

 

[Immaculate]

yes.

10 characters

 

[hbar]

Don't forget to vote for best story since Update 16. Include your vote with your orders for turn 20 (20? already... thats sort of a milestone).

If you are a lurker and you like a story that was written by one of the players since update 16, feel free to PM me your vote and i will take it into consideration.

It is considered bad form to vote for yourself (and your vote won't be counted).

Don't vote yet! The best is yet to come, today or tomorrow (I'm halfway done...)