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Geez :/

There go my Lamias and my plan with them... :cry:

If I understood correctly there are some *still* living in other provinces? And population of Averlorn is still mad at lamias? & Hera is still on the run?

yeah, more lamia exist in kwythellar... probably none in fort katamin- outposts aren't that big and there's just not enough opportunity for them there.

yes- population of averlorn has very negative impression of those 'foul baby-snatching witches'.

yes- hera is still on the run somewhere.
 
Immy, I sent Prelimitary orders with Reconaissance. Please use them!


Okay- i added the road-buiding project we discussed and the patrian dig to your orders but otherwise i used them...

my bad.... i forgot about those very preliminary orders.
 
So when will the stats be out?

Probably not for awhile- thats why i wanted to do the update now... i won't be available over the weekend as much... i have a bit of time tomorrow morning and i might be able to get some out but i can't promise anything...

maybe as late as tuesday.
 
Revenge? The Grigori's worst enemy seems to be themselves >.>
 
The Bannor do not think it is appropriate to sell these spells to the Grigori, or any other nation. For the League to use them to the best of their ability, we should keep knowledge of the spells among us alone.
 
The Bannor do not think it is appropriate to sell these spells to the Grigori, or any other nation. For the League to use them to the best of their ability, we should keep knowledge of the spells among us alone.

Official Kuriotates Protest
The 5 points Letter.

Topics:
Bannor & their greed
The League
The Cult of Flesh

1.
(The Pain, the Ignorance)

Sharing spells, gold and knowledge shows that nation is wishing peace. Much war - too much - has already been around us, near us, even in our nations. Every nation on Erbus has suffered greatly, Does the League wish to have more suffering? Why does it then turn back to those who are weaker? To those who need help? To THOSE, they once, swore to protect?


( The invisible line between Good and evil, the Weak And the Strong.)
Having a line between strong (the League) and Weak (others) will only result war, as strong nations want more and more. Kuriotates do not wish war, we have done everything to show our wish for Peace, while Bannor does all to be stronger and stronger. Be kind, Show mercy to those, who are weaker than you, as having everyone equal in strength, will not result war, unlike having strong and weak.


2.
(The wish to be the strongest? The wish for evil?)
Obviously, all this force - that The League gathers - is not meant to keep peace with words - but Bannor has always preferred way of the sword, causing much pain to those around them.

So far, your diplomats have been great. Why does Bannor refuse to let others trade? Why does Bannor want to keep that invisible line of strong vs weak? Is your government wishing for peace, or perhaps your government only lives for war?

3.
(Mercy, Broken words - forgotten?)

Do we have to remind your nation, how you ignored and left Grigori to death? Make up your mistake! - Forgive Grigori, help to become worthy nation, once again! Why does Bannor think, that prayer to Those Powerful Than us, will solve all problems, cure all mistakes, forgive all sins? All you do is pray, but those prayers are empty unless Bannor Shows that they are not, that they wish for peace and equality!

4.
(Is this what The League calls Peace?)

Words of the League, How can Kuriotates believe those - when Vile "Cult of Flesh" spreads in your nations? Brother eats and enslaves brother? People enjoy "forbidden" fruits and laugh at weaker, at laws and even at gods!

How can "an alliance" say they want peace, when their own citizens kill each other, disrespect life of others and even enslave those that are weaker? If citizens do this, then entire nation does this?


5.
Trust

How can we trust those, who steal riches from (dead) and poor and refuse to share those riches with others? Knowledge that was gained, could help EVERY nation, why do you object aiding others? Why do you refuse to help those, who could need help? Those who could help you?

How can humble nations like Syrii hear the words like peace and hope, from an alliance, when center of that alliance is rotting?

They wish riches, they wish money, they wish knowledge only for themselves! They see no mercy, they step on smaller - only to become stronger! They even refuse to share the riches with those who helped them to gain those?

Is this what "The League" calls "Peace"? Is this What the League is about?

Signed
Micelaos Krama,
First Emperor and High Elder of Kuriotates council

This Letter comes from Kuriotates government, not from Three Nations Treaty and is directed to League, specially towards Bannor.
 
OOC: Lolwut?

To: Kuriotates

Official Kuriotates Protest
The 5 points Letter.

Topics:
Bannor & their greed
The League
The Cult of Flesh

1.
(The Pain, the Ignorance)

Sharing spells, gold and knowledge shows that nation is wishing peace. Much war - too much - has already been around us, near us, even in our nations. Every nation on Erbus has suffered greatly, Does the League wish to have more suffering? Why does it then turn back to those who are weaker? To those who need help? To THOSE, they once, swore to protect?

The League does not want suffering. The League has always done its upmost to make sure League citizens have the best possible quality of llife and security we can give them. The Bannor firmly believe that empowering the weak will only ensure that war will break out on Edsunland. The Bannor have never sworn to protect anyone but the Grigori, and this agreement was made null a long time ago. It is inappropriate for the Kuriotates to use it in a modern context. If the Hippus want to sell these spells then that's their decision, if it were the Bannor you were dealing with there is no way those spells would be soread outside of the League.

( The invisible line between Good and evil, the Weak And the Strong.)
Having a line between strong (the League) and Weak (others) will only result war, as strong nations want more and more. Kuriotates do not wish war, we have done everything to show our wish for Peace, while Bannor does all to be stronger and stronger. Be kind, Show mercy to those, who are weaker than you, as having everyone equal in strength, will not result war, unlike having strong and weak.

''Mercy is weakness'' Juna-Baleigna, Chapter 13, verse II

Having a line between the strong and the weak ensures that the weak are too powerless to harm the strong. The Bannor are a responsible nation, we have no need or wish for war. You know this well, as it was with the Kuriotates that we discussed a possible Non-aggression agreement to span the length and breadth of Edsunland. You refused to sign such a treaty, clearly showing your hostility towards the Bannor and League.

2.
(The wish to be the strongest? The wish for evil?)
Obviously, all this force - that The League gathers - is not meant to keep peace with words - but Bannor has always preferred way of the sword, causing much pain to those around them.

The Bannor have preferred the way of the sword when it is clear that diplomacy is not the answer. For reference see the destruction of the Jarvan Menace and the second destruction of the Jarvan Menace.

So far, your diplomats have been great. Why does Bannor refuse to let others trade? Why does Bannor want to keep that invisible line of strong vs weak? Is your government wishing for peace, or perhaps your government only lives for war?

The Bannor do not refuse to let the Hippus trade. What right do we have to refuse them to trade? We simply advise them not to trade.

3.
(Mercy, Broken words - forgotten?)

Do we have to remind your nation, how you ignored and left Grigori to death? Make up your mistake! - Forgive Grigori, help to become worthy nation, once again! Why does Bannor think, that prayer to Those Powerful Than us, will solve all problems, cure all mistakes, forgive all sins? All you do is pray, but those prayers are empty unless Bannor Shows that they are not, that they wish for peace and equality!

The Kuriotates are clearly not well-versed in modern thinking. The Bannor actions prevented the Undead menace surfacing sooner, allowing us to develop to such a level that we could combat them. If we had sent troops to the Grigori, the only outcome would have been more infected people to destroy the grigori, and the Bannor would then have no way to defend it's own people, allowing it to fund a large proportion of the rituals that were performed. We also firmly believe that if we had sent our units to the slaughter, the undead meanace would have reached the vast Kuriotatian cities, where the virus would have thrived, making the undead unstoppable.

4.
(Is this what The League calls Peace?)

Words of the League, How can Kuriotates believe those - when Vile "Cult of Flesh" spreads in your nations? Brother eats and enslaves brother? People enjoy "forbidden" fruits and laugh at weaker, at laws and even at gods!

The Bannor do not condone this Cult. It is not present in any form in Bannor lands and never will be. The League has a freedom of religion policy, meaning that the member nations may choose to allow certain religions to flourish in their lands should they wish. We believe that offering the Cult employment has done much to boost Amurite stability, and we congratulate them on their imaginitive solution to what could have been a serious problem.

How can "an alliance" say they want peace, when their own citizens kill each other, disrespect life of others and even enslave those that are weaker? If citizens do this, then entire nation does this?

Slavery is not present in the League as far as I am aware. It's certainly not used in Bannor. However, the League allows members to run their nations in any way they see fit, and slavery is recognised as a legitimate means of Labour.

5.
Trust

How can we trust those, who steal riches from (dead) and poor and refuse to share those riches with others? Knowledge that was gained, could help EVERY nation, why do you object aiding others? Why do you refuse to help those, who could need help? Those who could help you?

The Bannor view Archaeology as a useful and beneficial process, but maintain that anything found in a member state of the League should belong to that League Member. It is the choice of the Hippus what they do with this knowledge.

How can humble nations like Syrii hear the words like peace and hope, from an alliance, when center of that alliance is rotting?

The Syrii have been a great addition to the League, and their philosophy is allowing the League to progress to even greater heights. The League is not rotting, and we are insulted that you would suggest such a thing.

They wish riches, they wish money, they wish knowledge only for themselves! They see no mercy, they step on smaller - only to become stronger! They even refuse to share the riches with those who helped them to gain those?

''Junil helps those who help themselves'' Juna-Baleigna Chapter 5, Verse IV

Is this what "The League" calls "Peace"? Is this What the League is about?

As far as the Bannor is aware, the League is not at war, therefore we feel confident to refer to the present state of Kuriotate-League relations as ''Peaceful'

Signed
Micelaos Krama,
First Emperor and High Elder of Kuriotates council

This Letter comes from Kuriotates government, not from Three Nations Treaty and is directed to League, specially towards Bannor.

With love,
The Bannor
 
Also, I believe the update said that the spell contains Body Mana spells, which are therefore useless to anyone without Body Mana, therefore you probably don't need them anyway.
 
Also, I believe the update said that the spell contains Body Mana spells, which are therefore useless to anyone without Body Mana, therefore you probably don't need them anyway.

OOC: "probably"

Whole point of this was:
Share (Grigori have right to gain these spells)
Get rid of cult of flesh.
Do not share people into weak and strong category.
Do not use others as steping up stones and then forget about them.
 
stats are out...
if i screwed up please speak up.
 
From the Bannor: (Just to summarise)

OOC: "probably"

Whole point of this was:
Share (Grigori have right to gain these spells)

That's the Hippus's choice. If it was up to the Bannor we certainly wouldn't give them to the Grigori

Get rid of cult of flesh.

The Cult of Flesh is a legitimate religion in Amurite lands. What right do the Kuriotates, the so-called tolerant and colour-blind Kuriotates, have to demand that the Amurites purge a religion from their populace?

Do not share people into weak and strong category.

That is the way of the world, we did not make the Grigori weak - they did.

Do not use others as steping up stones and then forget about them.

The Bannor do not use stepping stones. (Although if you look in real life, ''stepping-stone'' colonialism and abuse of weaker groups if people is exactly why the west is powerful.)
 
Also, weren't the Kuriotates morally outraged at the last purging in Amurite lands, the one with Evavi against the Cricket Throne? Now they are demanding that another purging occurs to eradicate a religion that really isn't bothering them, in a nation that's practically on the other side of the world, and want the Bannor to help this occur despite insulting us with false and unverified claims and when it is specifically stated in the League Charter that members will not interfere with the religions and governing in each others' states. These are the supposedly tolerant and all-accepting, peaceful, jolly little Kuriotates and they want me to help them start an inquisition against my ally, the Amurites?

This is hypocrisy and insolence at is finest.

OOC: All Role Play, no personal offense NW. Get well soon :).
 
To the Kuriotates:

As the Bannor have said, the internal affairs of the Amure People have NOTHING to do with yours. You have no right to meddle.

However, we will address your points:
You stats that the cult of Flesh is Slavery:
False. All fleshists are rightfully employed by the Amurite government, and recieve a wage. additionally, these practices are part of their religious creed.
You state that the Cult of Flesh is cannibalism:
False. The Amure government has never tolerated Cannibalism. Even in the age of ice, when the OH SO GREAT kuriotates fed on the flesh of thier equals to survive, the Amurites did not.
you state the Cult of Flesh is a heresy:
False. All fleshists are devoted to Aeron and to Amatheon.

We hope this addresses all your grievances against the Cult of Flesh.

The Amurite Council
 
The Hippus intended on keeping their word, but the exact way to do so has yet to be decided. Also these claims of revenge that the Grigori are making has disturbed many on the Council, and they are questioning whether it would be wise to let those who harbor grudges have this book. We had hoped our willingness to include you in this discovery would of eased the tensions between our nations, but it seems we were being too optimistic and trusting.
 
OOC: The revenge I am talking about is against my Brother, who caused me to miss many an order set: I just gave him a Weggie! :P I am like that.
 
Uhh, I'm back- did you send me stats Immaculate? If not that's fine- I still have to unpack which will take me until Monday to complete.
 
i can send you stats but just not right away...

EDIT: stats sent and my thinking that went with the plans i carried out while you were away... i sort of spent every last saved gold you had :thumbsup:

The elves are fun to play.
 
Map is up (been up for a couple hours- just forgot to mention it)

Waltz with Bashir is an awesome flick.
 
Building re-designed:

Armourer: Leather
Classification: Weapons and Armour Manufacture
Required Population: 6
Required Workforce: none
Required Production Capacity: 4
Required Technology: battlefield manoeuvrability
Cost: 30 gold
Game Effect: Allows the construction of leather armour. Increases infantry, reconnaissance, cavalry and missile military quality according to the following formula:

Increased military quality=(number of leather armourers in nation)/(number of cities in nation)​


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Armourer: Leather
Classification: Weapons and Armour Manufacture
Required Population: 6
Required Workforce: none
Required Production Capacity: 4
Required Technology: battlefield manoeuvrability
Cost: 5 gold
Game Effect: Allows the construction of leather armour with 'leather' resource.
 
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