Up to now, I don't really see people really responding to my points. For those who keep attacking me on using a "racist term"? First, I already explained a thousand times oriental is not a derogatory term from where I come from. Second, by proving me to be an insensitive person my arguments are still not refuted. I keep saying every leader has only TWO traits out of so many. These two traits should therefore be most accurately reflective of his personality, policy, achievement and role in history. Wang Kon, according to some Korean posters here, appears to be a good candidate for getting the protective trait. Anyway I don't know much about their history. A case may be made on Tokugawa because of his isolationist policy adopted when he's old. However he has been given merchantilism as his favorite civic. So in comparison organized is a better trait than protective. Edo period, a period started by Tokugawa, was characterized by a highly organized and inflexible 4-tier class system. It allowed Japan to be in relatively stable state for about 250 years. Traces of this class system can still be seen in Japan even today. So my question is, why remove the organized trait? I don't see why Qin should be made protective. People repeat thousand times he built the Great Wall so he's protective. He is given the industrious trait already. So in the game he will build the Great Wall with double speed. More important, he is never recognized by any Chinese to be a protector. He is remembered as a conqueror, an empire builider, a super control freak. The imperialistic, aggressive, organized traits are all more relevant than the protective. People claim that because Chinese and Britain have good archers and riflemen, respectively, so they should be given the protective trait. Chinese have the CKN already. The extra first strike and collateral have already told this part of the story. In MP game you parked a few CKN plus a couple of spear/spike in a city and this city is a very hard nutshell to crack. Churchill is given the protective because he IS the protector of UK. According to this logic Victoria and Eliz should both get protective. So this is a false argument. Mao was known by Chinese to be the man who essentially turned China upside down and created something he called "New China". He started the Great Leap and the 10-year cultural revolution based on his insane ideals. Philosophical and organized fit these very well. He also matches the description of charismatic trait perfectly (people followed him, were in a mood like being drugged and still cherished him even after he practically starved millions to death; Mao was also known for his warfare). What did he protect? In WW2 the main force fighting Japanese was from the Nationalist Party, not the CCP. So does protective should be the one of the top two traits of these leaders? Counter my points or just ignore. Don't give me all these word picking things P.S. To that Aareavd guy, please do your homework. The "tank and student" thing you mentioned happened more than 10 years after Mao's death. And nothing in my posts were about political things. Marrying to a Chinese wife and teaching ESL does not necessarily make you know more about Chinese history.