Flesh Golem ?

[Noctane]

Bonjour ! I was lurking for some time, greeding for the maximum of info on FFH2 (i'm the game manuel reader type of gamer )

Hem, after being lured to the 15 strength golem achievement (well already have, due to experimentations via the worldbuilder, but there is no reset for them (or is there ? :'( ), i've created a game with the intention of focusing on magic and body ...

My neightbors all have different religion, and has i play in divinity, i want to be in good term with them ( at last until the archmages ), so ... well, Council of esus ! ...

Just finished Kael Coalbane when i was preparing to build my Aeron's Chosen(for his body parts ), when it hit me ...

Follow the thougth :
Kael Coalbane=Illusionnist.
Illusion=100%heal after battle(don't kill when attacking but do when defending !)
... Kael+Body3+Combat5=Illusion Golem with ... Hem, Hability5?(+50%strength)
So ... Golem with 19Strength(Belluaire ... the recon unit with 14 strength, +mithril weapon) +150% = 47.5, + Drill4 etc ...

You make THAT defend a city.

... Hem, sorry if that old, but it's very new to me, and i think this will make me worship Esus in all my parties now ... (In fact, already thinking about with the balseraphs, you can have up to 26 of THESE ... Seriously. (4archmages+4lichs+cael+18 puppet ... wel, 25, Kael have to cast the golems, but, well, you get it ... )

... Meshabber de Dis and the Mithril Golem can take one down, but not two (in the same turn), and auric ascended ... well, three with some luck (more with the hated trio of freeze-men ...)

Sorry for the bad english (some ... sentences ? sound strange to me, but well ...)

 

[Breunor]

Its really funny! I don't usually sacrifice so much for a defender, but if you are playing on deity ...

Best wishes,

Breunor

 

[xalien]

Just so you know, heal after combat (illusion, cannibalize or Aeron's chosen) only works when defeating living units. For such powerfull unit as a pimped out flesh golem I'm typically satisfied with cannibalize and a bunch of first strikes.

I've made a topic about them a while ago: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=318639

 

[Noctane]

Thank you, i knew i was forgetting something (like the Revelation of the empyrean ... Always the Empyrean ), and i was just mourning one after it was being killed by a Death Angel ( or Angel of the Death ? ) after some assaults from mere angels ...

But that doesn't reduce their value to me, just changed the ratio to 50% illusion and 50% golem ...

Thank you for the link, i was forgetting the Kraken ... And this way i can too Graft Medecine1-3 ... True Half-Gods *_*

But anyway, the only issue is Hyborem and Basium ... That leave a lot of civ to conquer, with 10X more city that them (well, more like 50X ), there not really a problem ... With some logistics (ie Nexus )

 

[Tasunke]

what mod mod are you playing? ... Kael Kolbane?

 

[Noctane]

No mod mod, it's the Council of Esus Hero

After some search, it's true that the hero must be Gibbon Goetia ... I don't understand, but heh, their stats are the same (and Kael is so much ... well, cool than ... that )

Now that i think about it, i have in the civilopedia the Spiderskin, and apparently it's a unit from Fall Further ... Bah, whatever

 

[cyther]

You're playing the Civ 4 Version, aren't you?

 

[Monkeyfinger]

You're playing the Civ 4 Version, aren't you?

dur hur

What cyther actually means by that is you're playing the un-expanded civ4 version, rather than the current version which requires the BtS expansion

 

[Noctane]

I downloaded the mod here, the FallfromHeaven2041d.exe one, and patch m then n.

And have Beyond The Sword 3.19 etc ... So, still don't understand, :'p
(the vanilla must have dimentionnal magic no ? has i don't have ...)

 

[cyther]

dur hur

What cyther actually means by that is you're playing the un-expanded civ4 version, rather than the current version which requires the BtS expansion

Oh, right. That's what I meant. I'm definitely not confused by being a pre-alpha tester for the next game

 

[Jarrema]

Oh, right. That's what I meant. I'm definitely not confused by being a pre-alpha tester for the next game

<rotfl>

 

[PekkaR]

Now that i think about it, i have in the civilopedia the Spiderskin, and apparently it's a unit from Fall Further ... Bah, whatever

According to manual, the Wonder spell can sometimes summon a Spiderkin for you in normal FFH. Or create penguins. Or turn caster (graphically) into a baboon.

 

[Noctane]

According to manual, the Wonder spell can sometimes summon a Spiderkin for you in normal FFH. Or create penguins. Or turn caster (graphically) into a baboon.

I see, interesting ^^


I check the UnitInfo xml, and there is no unit with the name of Kael but Gibbon is here ... But here is the issue, in the CIV4GameText_FFH2.xml :

<TEXT>
<Tag>TXT_KEY_UNIT_GIBBON</Tag>
<English>Gibbon Goetia</English>
<French>Kael Coalbane</French>
<German>Gibbon Goetia</German>
<Italian>Gibbon Goetia</Italian>
<Spanish>Gibbon Goetia</Spanish>


(but there is always the icon(and skin), who isn't the Gibbon one but a svartalfar hero-like with half his face hide by a mask ... and the fact that i don't need ... Arcane lore ? to build him (but i always have that tech first anyway, for survival :'p ) so ... well, doesn't matter ! )

 

[Darksaber1]

It sounds like he's playing a non-english version of FfH, where Kael/ hasen't become Gibbon, and it Meshhaber de Dis.

Edit: Ok, the French Translation.

 

[Tasunke]

Yar, he is playing the french version. Only the french have Kael Coalbane? Was this intended?

 

[Azhral]

Wait a minute, 'Coalbane'? Is Kael a hippy now, attempting to fight the industrial revolution?

Goddamn treehugging elves, BURN THE FORESTS!

 

[Tasunke]

Azhral ... you need to play more DC!

also, have you tried the FOK mod for DC?

 

[doktarr]

Sorry for the necro; seemed better than starting a new thread on an old subject.

Has anyone tried making a FG out of the Council of Esus units? If you mash up a Nightwatch with a Shadow, you have a figure with Invisibility, Marksmanship, and Hidden Nationality. It seems like this would allow you to freely pillage and kill in your opponent's territory without declaring war, as long as they didn't have figures that could see the invisible.

 

[SergiuSS]

ofc I play svarts a lot and "veil of night" is my economyc trait I can make huge amout of gold after bronze working and high lvl swordmen wich i can upgrade to champions after iron working strange enought the civilization whit strong recon line do beter on melee line
And jous 4 fun you can add command promotion to a golem to since you can't use your xp but you can surely use the unit u capture. Have fun

 

[BvBPL]

Yeah, but the Svarts also have the illusionist promo, which means your flesh golems will never kill a unit on attack.