Format for Monthly Competitions

[Vuldacon]

Competition with ones self is done at home and Competition in a Contest is done against another individual's work.
Therefore, no contest should be held with only one individual's work involved. The Artist can submit their work and unless there is at least one other individual who has entered the contest, the contest should be postponed until there is another entry from a different individual.
If an Artist Creates something in December, it could not win a Monthly first to be eligible if the Annual Competition is held at the same time so it could not be entered...I therefore suggest that the Monthly Competition be held Before the Annual Competition in December. This would provide the means to allow all work for the Year to be voted on for the Monthly as well as the Yearly Competitions in all Areas.

Naturally, since the Annual Competition is to decide what work is best for the Year...it should include all work done in the Year. Because the Annual Entries must first Win a Monthly Competition, it is best to hold the December Annual Competition for the Year after the December Monthly Competition.

Edit: Concerning the Entries in any of the Contests... If there are few entries in any area such as Leaderheads and there are no Monthly winners, then I believe all could be entered in the annual Competitions because all of these competitions are to select the Best in it class. Monthly and then what is Best for the Year. If there are too few to have a monthly, then enter all in the Annual...simple.

 

[Kyriakos]

There is the chance that a graphic is very good, so it would be unfair for it to not win if there is no contest. I say keep things as they are

 

[againsttheflow]

Edit: Concerning the Entries in any of the Contests... If there are few entries in any area such as Leaderheads and there are no Monthly winners, then I believe all could be entered in the annual Competitions because all of these competitions are to select the Best in it class. Monthly and then what is Best for the Year. If there are too few to have a monthly, then enter all in the Annual

QFT

I would suggest that if it works out to be multi-month competitions that a single artist can submit one entry per month and have multiple entries in the competition.

I agree. For the LH's you could perhaps wait to the end of the month to see what crops up and base your decision on that.

...simple.

I think this our goal here.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Look back at the LHs submitted for voting over last year. PM each of the makers and ask them their opinion. Decide how to handle it. Then apply the same standards to every category. That keeps it fair for everybody. In theory.

Or just keep things as they are. It's not perfect. But it's real.

 

[Vuldacon]

Question concerning the Unit Contests: Unit Preview Animations are expected to be one animated preview with all animations.
When a Unit uses many different Palettes for the animations, the animations cannot be put together for one Animated Preview. What should be Uploaded as the Unit Preview for the contest in this situation?

 

[Kyriakos]

I think that many animations were partial, even just a run animation had been submitted.

 

[Blue Monkey]

Question concerning the Unit Contests: Unit Preview Animations are expected to be one animated preview with all animations.
When a Unit uses many different Palettes for the animations, the animations cannot be put together for one Animated Preview. What should be Uploaded as the Unit Preview for the contest in this situation?

It's just a preview. Why would it have to be indexed? Wouldn't the different animations maintain their colors even though the overall preview is RGB?

 

[Pounder]

I think that many animations were partial, even just a run animation had been submitted.

The way I understood that was not for the preview, but on the thread where the unit is posted, I thought that it just meant that it had to be complete (usable, with all necessary animations).

Just to stop partially completed units from being entered.

 

[Kyriakos]

Yeah the unit has to be complete, but the preview can be partial.

 

[Pounder]

Now that I go back and read it, it is pretty clear, but still I feel that the unit has to be complete and the preview is up to the discretion of the artist.

Am I wrong, should the wording be changed in the rules.

 

[againsttheflow]

I didn't understand the above until it was explained here...

 

[Vuldacon]

OK... I understood that Any animation could be submitted but there could only be one so I wanted to ask. Reason is mainly due to the Unit Previews being what people see to consider their Vote even though there can be many previews in the thread where the Unit is Posted.
If the preview animation does not matter in the Competition, then why have any re-posted? We could simply supply the Link to the Unit Post where the Previews are.

...Perhaps a simple image would suffice for the Contest page and supply the Link to the Previews where the Unit is Posted. Any Thoughts?

 

[Kyriakos]

I think that people expect the unit to have equally good animations for everything, so even if the preview only has the run, they will still vote for it if it is seen as good enough. Now if you want the contest to be more standardised i can see why one would ask for all animations to be presented, but up to now this was not the case and in my view there is no need to change things

 

[Vuldacon]

Blue Monkey... The problem is not in showing the preview colors that are there but in putting them together in the first place for the Preview. The Different Palettes change the animation colors.

Varwnos... I see your point and I also realize that the Votes come from a very small number of people who do look over the Entries and all previews with a good understanding of the work envolved.
...basically, it would be helpful to avoid the Huge Files to download on many Posts for those of us who have to use Slow Dial Up Internet Connection.

 

[Flamand]

I think that people expect the unit to have equally good animations for everything, so even if the preview only has the run, they will still vote for it if it is seen as good enough. Now if you want the contest to be more standardised i can see why one would ask for all animations to be presented, but up to now this was not the case and in my view there is no need to change things

I always asked that all animations were present in one gif, but I admit I wasn't too strict with that rule. The one gif file rule was a result of some people submitting 8 separate previews, which made me bump into the max-20-pics-per-post limitation of these forums. And it saved me work...

 

[Pounder]

I've seen a few leaderhead competitions with only one entry. I'm wondering, would it be better in the interests of everyone if the leaderhead competition was merged with the PCX competition? Maybe call it the "graphics mod" competition? There are some really nice leaderheads being submitted and it seems sort of a shame that many of them simply win by default. Just a thought.

I don't think the LH's should be grouped with the PCX's, they are voted on for different reasons.

Maybe the category should be non-unit animations. Myself and others have had animations that could not be entered because they were not a unit and couldn't be grouped with the other categories: example, hot air ballon's animation to replace fireworks.

Hmmm... ,then the HOF's would be messed up.

Could we carry on this discussion in the other thread. http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=306885

Moved from Submissions Thread

Edit: I guess, since we have started a new year, there could be a new non-unit animations HOF category.

 

[Kyriakos]

Nevermind

 

[Gary Childress]

Regarding unit animation previews. I would like to retract my entry in this month's competitions because I only have the preview of the run for the kriegsmarine. When I applied the sharpening of the image I applied it to the storyboard, not to the individual images. When I made the preview with Animation Shop I used the Run.flc file to make the preview.

Thanks.

 

[Varlin Saliptor]

How often does someone release a non-unit animation? It seems that we would still have the same problem we are having now.

(And I reserve my opinion on this matter. Conflict of interest and whatnot)

 

[Pounder]

How often does someone release a non-unit animation? It seems that we would still have the same problem we are having now.

(And I reserve my opinion on this matter. Conflict of interest and whatnot)

I really don't want to change anything, I would prefer to leave everything as is. I am just countering other's ideas. I poll definitely shows that there should be no changes.