You know, it's strange. I'm utterly crushed on the Wonder front. I don't play industrious, and I've yet to start near enough to stone, marble, or copper to snag them before the opposition, but I don't think that's my problem. I'm usually so busy snagging territory and trying to keep up with the AI's addictive unit production without sacrificing my builder ideals of, y'know, actually *having* city improvements that I can't figure out when to start building a wonder. With or without chop. When I do attempt a wonder, it's almost always converted to cash.