Gall Communication Thread

BCLG100 said:
Well yes i agree we should get rid of them off our continent, however even then why should they agree to peace for nothing?

I know it's bad form to answer a question with a question but, why should we agree to peace for nothing?
 
because they have beaten us and unless we land a force on their continent then they won this war by forcing us to abandon 3 cities- if that isnt a victory then what is?
 
BCLG100 said:
because they have beaten us and unless we land a force on their continent then they won this war by forcing us to abandon 3 cities- if that isnt a victory then what is?

i would say if they razed or captured those 3 cities, it would be a victory. however, we abandoned them ourselves, so they only indirectly took away 3 of our cities, not directly.

i think if we can destroy their city and kill all the units they have here, we might be able to get a straight peace deal, or small concessions made by us.
 
We've also rebuilt one of those cities already. Let's keep them talking peace but not give up anything just yet.
 
Yes i agree we shouldnt be giving them too much but i think we may have to make minor concessions-maybe a tech or something.
 
^ if we have to give up a tech, so be it. but i would prefer to convince them a straight peace deal is the best thing for their civ.
 
Nothing much to report. Moved our *stack* of pike back away from Spite. Left our Immortals and trebs in place.

 
As long as those cities exist, then KISS has a gateway to our continent.....and us. Have we investigated Spite and Malice to see what they contain?

Also, we should invest in a few naval scouts to patrol our shores for protection.

I'll come up with more when I get a chance to look at the save.
 
we did think about investigating DZ but MIA informed us that the info they would find following the investigation would have been outdated. theres very little naval ships right now that can be used to defend, however would be good scouts.
 
hey DZ. :)

we decided not to spend the gold to spy on the cities right now because we need the money for unit rushes. we've still got a hefty amount in the bank, but rushing several units every couple turns costs cash.
 
:help:
Donovan Zoi said:
As long as those cities exist, then KISS has a gateway to our continent.....and us. Have we investigated Spite and Malice to see what they contain?

Also, we should invest in a few naval scouts to patrol our shores for protection.

I'll come up with more when I get a chance to look at the save.

We know about how many Gallic swordsmen and trebuchets they had a turn or two ago. No idea how many pikes are there.

BTW, welcome aboard! we could use a little :help:
 
BCLG: Next time you chat with someone from KISS would you find out what terms they are currently asking for? Feel free to tell them we are a bit war weary and would like to make peace if their terms are not too harsh. We won't give up cities but luxes are plentiful.
 
well last time i spoke they were just after a patch of land on our continent and that wont have changed much.
 
BCLG100 said:
well last time i spoke they were just after a patch of land on our continent and that wont have changed much.

They have a patch. Try to find out if it's big enough. Also, try to find out how long a treaty we could get out of them.
 
well i spoke to scoutsout and daghda last night, they said they'd post in the forums about it, if peace was to be declared they were a bit unsure about whether they would demand our newly planted city east of our core but that land and i think they would demand a 50 turn peace treaty, when speaking to whomp a couple of days about it anyways.
 
BCLG100 said:
well i spoke to scoutsout and daghda last night, they said they'd post in the forums about it, if peace was to be declared they were a bit unsure about whether they would demand our newly planted city east of our core but that land and i think they would demand a 50 turn peace treaty, when speaking to whomp a couple of days about it anyways.

That city is not east of our core. It is part of our core! :wallbash: I'd say no to a 50 turn deal. Maybe 40, but I'd prefer just 20 turns and we renew or not at the appropriate time. I surely hope we do not even consider giving them a city. I also think that any unsettled land should at the very least be considered open to settlement by either of us.
 
well there is that option but they do have an overwhelming force so if they do offer that we're not allowed to settle there we should take it seeing how we are planning on getting it back soon enough anyways.
 
If I had to choose between losing one city or losing our (behind ;) ), I'd have to go with the former. We have plenty of land available to our north and to our west.

We are not bargaining from a position of strength right now, so we must step lightly in negotiations. Let's press for the even deal first and take it from there.
 
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
btw civ3 MDTG stuff here
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
do KISS want peace?
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
what do you want if you do?
Whomp says:
hmm
Whomp says:
what did you have in mind? I saw you spoke with Scout and Daghie
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
yer it was pretty brief
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
hang on just sending a PM
Whomp says:
brb
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
ok done
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
errr well what i have in mind is you leave the continent leave the cities just take the units and we'll agree to that
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
but realistically, the land east of our core which has not already been settled at the time of declaring peace
Whomp says:
1. No aggression from TNT towards any civ for 50 turns.

2. We Semtex. 3. Any and all techs they are up on us, no matter how many tiers up (I'm thinking maybe education here)

4. They can't settle east of any city they now own.

jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
'we semtex'?
Whomp says:
we want
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
oh well thats out
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
erm how do you mean number 3?
Whomp says:
we want all techs you have that we don
Whomp says:
don't
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
you have more than we do right now
Whomp says:
we could turn off research
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
do you mean like in the future?
Whomp says:
how do you know what we have and don't?
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
because we know what the nutters have
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
and we know what you have from MIA
Whomp says:
OK well that's where we stand now
Whomp says:
it would've been a better deal 5-6 turns ago
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
yer before you got invention etc?
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
i posted in your bearded cow thread btw
Whomp says:

jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
it was asking a question
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
so how do you mean number 3? that we give you techs we will get for a set number of turns
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
or that we give you all the techs we have now
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
or whut?
Whomp says:
all your current techs and any future techs you get up on us for a certain timeframe
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
ah right
Whomp says:
what kind of help are you looking to offer in Bearded Cow btw?
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
oh like comments
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
like 'try this' 'try that'
Whomp says:
you can say whatever you want without being spoilerish
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
ok well what kinda time frame for the tech thing?
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
and i posted my 'advice'
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
oh and raisin brans thing is a spoiler unless your in his little alliance thing
Whomp says:
i haven't looked
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
there wasnt anything there when i last posted but i wont look again
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
ok well what kinda time frame for the tech thing?
Whomp says:
probably till your free IA tech
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
what about 30 turns?
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
ill take your silence as a yes
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:

Whomp says:
probably not
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
oh ok
Whomp says:

jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
well we're never going to agree to the till the IA thing
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
or the semtex thing
Whomp says:
k
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
we could agree to the tech thing if it wasnt for so long
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
and the patch of land you want
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
and the peace with you for 50 turns
Whomp says:
everyone for 50
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
ok why everyone?
Whomp says:
it's what we want
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
uhuh but why?
Whomp says:
it's what we want
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
you said that
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
but why do you want that?
Whomp says:
we have our reasons and that's our demand
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
hmm
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
if we're attacked though we would have to defend ourselves
Whomp says:
of course
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
brb
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
how long have you got left with your treaty with MIA out of interest?
Whomp says:
depends. we are discussing renegotiating it
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
but as of now?
Whomp says:
i think for a while
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
so your peace treaty is
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
50 turns peace
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
tech for a period of time to be decide
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
d
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
and land east of our core
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
because we wont agree to the semtex thing so i just cancelled that out
Whomp says:
well then you may as well consider coming up with something else because that's what we want
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
well we could just carry on with the war
Whomp says:
k
jack the lad (Seth){Care Bear}, 10 days left.... says:
if we give up one of our most productive cities we may as well just wait around and be destroyed and we cant do that
Whomp says:
k

im jack the lad and whomp is whomp obviously :)

make of it what you will....
 
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